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    Posted: 02-Feb-2007 at 12:39
Originally posted by Yiannis

Apparently there're some developments in the Hrant Dink's killer case. He was spotted, after the murder, posing with police officers who apparently praised him


Bunch of idiots...including Trabzon and Istanbul's police commander in chiefs.All have to be fired.
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Originally posted by Jagatai Khan



Bunch of idiots...including Trabzon and Istanbul's police commander in chiefs.All have to be fired.
 
Hope they do! Apparently this is the picture and related article:
 
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Ismet Berkan, editor of the Radikal newspaper, said that the footage proved "that the murderer and his associates are not alone, that their supporters... have penetrated all segments of the state".

Police spokesman Ismail Caliskan said an investigation was under way into officers seen in the footage, as well as into who leaked it to the media.

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Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
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so after seeing this picture and also the video, was it the "deep state" or the state self who organized that crime?

what would you all think?
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Originally posted by DayI

so after seeing this picture and also the video, was it the "deep state" or the state self who organized that crime?

what would you all think?
I assumed when i first heard about this 'deep' state, it was just a hard core of powerful ultra conservatives within the military and their supporters within the rest of state apparatus.

I have to ask; is it really organized or more a motley collection of like minded groups?
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Originally posted by DayI

so after seeing this picture and also the video, was it the "deep state" or the state self who organized that crime? what would you all think?

Why would the 'deep state' bother with Hrant Dink? No, I do not see any connection.

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Originally posted by Brainstorm


It seems that there are many Turkish citizens who believe that military and para-military organizations should not get involved in politics


True enough, but that's a different story.





Does it still seem a different story?....
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Originally posted by Brainstorm

Does it still seem a different story?

Yes, since that event occured in a police station.

At first, the media claimed that it was a gendarme HQ, but the general staff denied in a harsh tone.

I knew it from the beginning. There are many far right nationalists among high ranking police officers.


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