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The Navy of Cholas

 

(K. A. Nilakanta Sastry, The Colas, University of Madras,

Madras, 1984, pp.458-460 as appearing in the book).

 

The numberless ship which carried Rajendras trops across the rolling sea to the conquest of Sri Vijaya and its dependencies could not have come up suddenly and must be accepted as proof of a steady naval policy pursued by the Cola monarchs of the period. The early Colas of the Sangam period had a good share in the maritime trade and activity of the Indian seas. The history of the Hindu colonies in the Malay Archipelago and Indo-China gives clear evidence of a steady increase, under the pallavas, in the trade and culture contacts between these lands and the countries of South India. The Tamil inscriptions of Takuapa53 shows that an important mercantile corporation of South India, the manigramam, had established itself on the opposite coast of the Bay of Bengal in the ninth century A.D. the Colas only continued an ancient tradition in the attention they gave to developing their power on the sea. The conquest of Ceylon and the Maldives, and the evidence of the Chinese annals o the embassies that reached China in the period from the Cola country give us some measure of the success they attained in this direction. And the overthrow of the Cera fleet at Kandalur salai may well be taken to mark the definite establishment of Cola naval power in this period in the territorial waters of Southern India. We have little direct evidence on the build of the ships employed. Considering that the author of the periplus distinguished three types of vessels several centuries earlier on the Coromandel coast and that naval expedition of Rajendra was a great achievement in itself, the existence of a well-ordered fleet comprising ships and boats of different grades must be admitted. The Arab merchant Sulaiman made several voyages between China and the Persian Gulf in the ninth century A.D., at a time when this long distance trade was being carried on very briskly. In his curious account of Maldieves, he says that the people of these islands built ships and houses and executed all other works with a consummate art54. Sulaiman had no occasion to visit the Coromandel coast; and his vyages were made before the rise of Colas of the Vijayala line into prominence. Taking into account Sulaimans testimony to the quality of the ships built in Maldives, and the conquest of these islands effected by Rajarajas fleet, we may form some idea of the efficiency of Cola navy in this period. Abu Zaid Hasan, in the notes which he added to Sulaimans work about the beginning of the tenth century A.D., observes that the vessels of the Indian ocean, specially those made at Saraf, differed in construction from those of the Mediterranean. It is a fact that the type of ship built by pieces of wood sewn together is a specially of the builders of Siraf, the ship builders of Syria and of Rum (Byzantum) nail, on the contrary, these pieces of wood and never sew them one to another55. Today we can see boats on the maras coast with planks sewn together by threads of cocoanut fibre. But these are usually of a small size; and the observations of Abu Zaid based on what he saw and heard at Siraf about A.D., 916 on navigation in the Indian Ocean56 should be no obstacle to a just estimate of the size and mportance of the navy of the Cola empire more than a century later. If the Arab writers are too early, Marco Polo comes unfortunately too late, and we are without a good contemporary account of ship-building on the Coromandel coast under the Colas. Ahmad-ibn Majid, an Arab writer of the fifteenth century and author of several nautical works, makes frequent allusion to the opinions of the Cholas which he approves or modifiues. He must have had before him a specilised nautical literature of Tamil (Cola) origin which he compared with Arab documents of a like nature. This literature must have included geographical tables with indications of the latitudes of ports for use of the mariners of the Coromandel coast57. of this technical literature mentioned by this Arab writers, unfortunately no part seems to have survived.

 

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53. Journal of Oriental Research. vi, 299ff.

54. Ferrad, Voyage, p.32; Wilson, Persian Gulf, pp.57-58 and n.Pelliot casts a doubt on Sulaimans authorship of the work attributed to him, Toung Pao, xxi, pp. 401-402.

55. Ferrad, op.cit., p.93. See also Renadout-Ancient Accounts- Remarek E, and Marco Polo.

56. Ferrand, Voyage, p.14.

57. Dans tous ses ouvrages nautiques, Ibn Majid fait frequemment allusiona l opinion des Colas quil appropuve ou rectifie. Cest quil devait avoir en main les Insructions nautiques tables geographuques avec indication de la latitude des ports, utilisees par les marins du Coromandel et quil les comparait avee les documents arabes des meme nature. Ferrand, Journal Asiatique, 11:14, (1919), pp.171-172.

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The above points are split for interpretation as follows:

 

  The numberless ship which carried Rajendras trops across the rolling sea to the conquest of Sri Vijaya and its dependencies could not have come up suddenly and must be accepted as proof of a steady naval policy pursued by the Cola monarchs of the period - the proof for the fleet has to be given.

  The early Colas of the Sangam period had a good share in the maritime trade and activity of the Indian seas - what happened to the books on shipping, ship-building etc?.

  The history of the Hindu colonies in the Malay Archipelago and Indo-China gives clear evidence of a steady increase, under the Pallavas, in the trade and culture contacts between these lands and the countries of South India.

  The Tamil inscriptions of Takuapa shows that an important mercantile corporation of South India, the manigramam, had established itself on the opposite coast of the Bay of Bengal in the ninth century A.D.

  The Colas only continued an ancient tradition in the attention they gave to developing their power on the sea. The conquest of Ceylon and the Maldives, and the evidence of the Chinese annals o the embassies that reached China in the period from the Cola country give us some measure of the success they attained in this direction.

  And the overthrow of the Cera fleet at Kandalur salai may well be taken to mark the definite establishment of Cola naval power in this period in the territorial waters of Southern India. We have little direct evidence on the build of the ships employed.

   Considering that the author of the periplus distinguished three types of vessels several centuries earlier on the Coromandel coast and that naval expedition of Rajendra was a great achievement in itself, the existence of a well-ordered fleet comprising ships and boats of different grades must be admitted.

  The Arab merchant Sulaiman made several voyages between China and the Persian Gulf in the ninth century A.D., at a time when this long distance trade was being carried on very briskly. In his curious account of Maldieves, he says that the people of these islands built ships and houses and executed all other works with a consummate art.

  Sulaiman had no occasion to visit the Coromandel coast; and his voyages were made before the rise of Colas of the Vijayala line into prominence. Taking into account Sulaimans testimony to the quality of the ships built in Maldives, and the conquest of these islands effected by Rajarajas fleet, we may form some idea of the efficiency of Cola navy in this period.

  Abu Zaid Hasan, in the notes which he added to Sulaimans work about the beginning of the tenth century A.D., observes that the vessels of the Indian ocean, specially those made at Saraf, differed in construction from those of the Mediterranean. It is a fact that the type of ship built by pieces of wood sewn together is a specially of the builders of Siraf, the ship builders of Syria and of Rum (Byzantum) nail, on the contrary, these pieces of wood and never sew them one to another.

  Today we can see boats on the maras coast with planks sewn together by threads of cocoanut fibre. But these are usually of a small size; and the observations of Abu Zaid based on what he saw and heard at Siraf about A.D., 916 on navigation in the Indian Ocean should be no obstacle to a just estimate of the size and importance of the navy of the Cola empire more than a century later. If the Arab writers are too early, Marco Polo comes unfortunately too late, and we are without a good contemporary account of ship-building on the Coromandel coast under the Colas - With such "sewn" ships, could Cholas have conducted oversea expedition to SEA countries?.

  Ahmad-ibn Majid, an Arab writer of the fifteenth century and author of several nautical works, makes frequent allusion to the opinions of the Cholas which he approves or modifiues. He must have had before him a specilised nautical literature of Tamil (Cola) origin which he compared with Arab documents of a like nature - Were the books of Cholas with his possession?.

  This literature must have included geographical tables with indications of the latitudes of ports for use of the mariners of the Coromandel coast - what happened to those Indian tables and charts?.

  Of this technical literature mentioned by this Arab writers, unfortunately no part seems to have survived - how all the literature could disappear?.

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I think one Dr. George Spencer of USA has thrown doubt on the Cholas' oversea exploration.
 
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In Sangam literature, there have been many references to that effect that the ancient Tamils travelled throughout the world.

Many Tamil proverbs talk about the seafaring activities and several words in usage in the context of shipping / maritime activities, Tamil words could be found e., kattumaram, marakalam, navai, marakkala nayagan etc.
 
Of course, the books on shipping and ship-building appeared to have been derived from the Sanskrit literature (Yuktikalpataru).
 
I have not read the book of George Spencer. I shall read and come to the topic.
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I am presenting a paper on Cholas' shipping and ship technology at the 27trh session of South Indian Congress to be held at Rajapalayam from Feb.2 to 4, 2007.
 
After presentation, if AE alllows, I shall post in the column.
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What hapened to your paper?

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As I found problems in posting, I could not post in AE.

 

Now, I find in another entry on "Mauryan empire", it has been noted that there were no Chola ships survived.

 

The Cholas lost their power and their dynasty disappeared with the rise of other rulers in the South after 14th century. After the Malik Kafur's raid, Mohammedan rule represented by the Delhi Sultanate was there here and there, till checked by the Vijayanagara empire. After the advent of Europeans, the Indian rulers started loosing their power.

 

Elsewhere, I have referred to the instances of taking away "shipping technology" books from India by the Europeans. The Portuguese got ships built from Indians. The strategic occupation of Goa by them had been one of the important reasons, as it was the great port of navigating Kadambas. The arrival of Indian ships with Indian merchandise created a sensation in the port of London.

 

Surat (1612), Madras (1639), Bombay (1668), Pondicherry (1674) and Calcutta (1698) thus gradually overshadowed Goa, and took over as the main centers of Indo-European trade. Nevertheless, the Indian (and other Asian) ship-building industry continued to thrive, as ships built in the ports of the Indian Ocean often matched (or even exceeded) the European-built ships in finish and craftsmanship.

 

The British started introducing several acts and rules to stop the Indian Shipping activities and foreign trade:

 

   The Merchant Seaman Act, 1728.

   The Merchant Seaman Act, 1835.

   The General Merchant Seamen Act, 1835.

   The Mercantile Marine Act, 1850.

   The Merchant Shipping Act, 1854-1894. etc.

 

The British gave a death blow to Indian shipbuilding by a notification issued by East India Company in the Calcutta Gazette (Supplementary) of 29th January 1789 which says All persons whosoever (Magistrates of the District excepted) are prohibited from making use of, or constructing boasts of the following denomination and dimensions after 1st March next:

 

O     Luekhas 40 to 90 covids length 2 to 4 covids breadth.

O     Jelkias 30 to 70 covids length 3 to 5 covids breadth.

O     Paunehways of Chandpore carrying more than 10 cars.

 

G. Victor Rajamanickam has brought out details on traditional ship-building, see his book "Traditional Indian Ship Building : Memories, History, Technology" published in 2004.

 

Above all, B. Arunachalam with the help of Indian Navy undertook an expedition just like as Cholas did under the project, "Simulation of Chola Navigation Techniques".

 

In fact, even now, ships are built at Cochin and exported to SEA countries, as they prefer the tradition ships of India.

 

According to Captain Iwata, founder member of the Association of Sumerian ships in Japan, Beypore (an ancient port near Calicut / Kozhikode) had direct links with Mesopotamia and was probably a major stop in the maritime silk route. He believes that Sumerian ships might have been built in Beypore ship-building yard. So when Captain Iwata set out to prove that a maritime trade link did exist between Mesopotamia and other countries, it is to Beypore he came to build his dream ship some years ago. The Sumerian ships must have been built according to a design reportedly recorded in cuneiform Sumerian tablet and preserved at the Louvre museum, the 3000 tonner is made entirely of wood, tts planks are held together by wooden nails and coir yarn with a special glue made of fruit and tree resins are used for additional bonding. Interestingly, the anchor is hewn out of granite. These are the typical features of ships built at Cochin and Maldives.

Now, think of Rajaraja Chola who decided to destroy the Shipping Academy at Kantalur, which refused to deliver the ships ordered by him.

So the ships for Cholas must have come from Cheranadu (Kerala) and it was part of Tamizhagam / South India. Thus, there is no mystery about the ships of Cholas.
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Just for curiousity,
 
Who are the Cholas? At what ethnic group they belong? Are they related to Indonesian sailors of contemporary times?
 
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Cholas were Indian rulers of South India during 10th to 13th centuries imprinting their influence throughout India and as well as in SEA countries.

They were Indians.
 
I do not know about the present relationship Indonesian sailors with Cholas. If anything is proved, it would be an interesting for researchers. Tell me, how you got that idea? Based on any evidence?
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Well, the Cholas invaded the Indonesian kingdom of Srivijaya in the early 11th century, did they not? Wouldn't that be a possible cause of the Indonesian maritime powers to start emulating the Indian conquerors? The victorious Indian ships would have been the new naval technology paradigm.



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Well, I have been studying the Austronesian peoples and it is very interesting. One branch are the Polynesians that were quite good sailors: they populated half the globe which is the extension of the Pacific Ocean.
 
But the other branch, the Indonesians, were quite good sailors as well. They traded with all the countries from India and Arabia up to South East Africa. They colonized Madagascar as well.
 
Now to the point. Some people say those migrant Indonesians were in good relations with people of Southern India, so I would not be surprised if they made alliances and exchanged tech as well.
 
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Dear friend,
 
Kindly give the evidences to proceed further, because, we cannot rely upon what others say about "others".
 
Aswinikumar Iyer mentioned about certain "nine persons" associated with Asoka and I had to spend hours to dig out for historicity.
 
We can make generalized remarks or even assert that it is "well known fact", or "everybody knows it" and so on. But, many times, such claims would be turned out to be "popular myth" rather than "history"!
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Dear sir:

Well, all the references I have about this topic are tangencial. I read a book about the ancient indonesian sailors and theirs presence in Africa, which is evident in Madagascar. I communicated with the author several times by mail (I have his e-mail if you need it). And, although I don't agree with everything the book say, the refferences and the evidence of an intense traffic of ships in the ancient seas of South East Asia is interesting. He also talks about theirs presence in India.
 
The book is called "Phantom Voyagers"
 
 
 
 
Please visit this link:
 
and this is a ship of those times:
 
 
Omar Vega
 
 
 
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Thank you.

 
Immediately, I visted the site and gone through.
We have to appreciate the researcher to bring out the material evidences, particuarly, the bronze etc.
 
Japanese have also been working on it to prove that the SEA had its / their own culture, tradition, heritage before the Indian influence.
 
The African connection with India and vice versa has also been proven. In fact, plate-tectonic theory, Lemurian hypotheses etc., have been full of such writings.
 
James Bailey in his "THe God-Kings & The Titans", 1973 has also brought out such details.
Anyway, the etymological interpretation of the words used and the philological argument do not always go with correlative and corroborative evidences.
 
In fact, many times, such works have been criticised in the columns of AE.
 
The role of Kadambas in the trade of middle-east and African countries has been temendous, but has not been studied properly. In fact, they are totally suppressd in Indian historical studies, because of their proven navigational skills. 


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Originally posted by K. V. Ramakrishna Rao

Thank you.

 
Immediately, I visted the site and gone through.
We have to appreciate the researcher to bring out the material evidences, particuarly, the bronze etc.
 
Japanese have also been working on it to prove that the SEA had its / their own culture, tradition, heritage before the Indian influence.
 
The African connection with India and vice versa has also been proven. In fact, plate-tectonic theory, Lemurian hypotheses etc., have been full of such writings.
 
As I say before, I have the book and been in contact with the person that wrote it. I don't agree with some of his theories that I found fantasious. For instance, the idea of the presence of Maize in Asia before columbus it seem to me quite ridiculous.
 
However, in the book he got lot of references and clues about a little documented fact: the population of Madagascar by Indonesians. That's not fantasy. Today you can find in there a mixed Indonesian Bantu population with an Austronesian language. Now, it is also well known that those people influenced somehow the peoples of South East Africa.
 
What is speculation is the degree of influence they had. Nothing else.
 
Perhaps certain things like the Marimba came from Indonesia through Madagascar. It is possible, although is only a speculation.
 
Originally posted by K. V. Ramakrishna Rao

 James Bailey in his "THe God-Kings & The Titans", 1973 has also brought out such details.
Anyway, the etymological interpretation of the words used and the philological argument do not always go with correlative and corroborative evidences.
  
 
Yes, that's is true. The only thing we can take as fact today in that region is the Indonesians populated Madagascar. The rest is quite uncertain. More research is needed. The only thing that book does is pointing to the idea that PERHAPS the influence existed and more serious research must be done.
 
Originally posted by K. V. Ramakrishna Rao

In fact, many times, such works have been criticised in the columns of AE.
 
The role of Kadambas in the trade of middle-east and African countries has been temendous, but has not been studied properly. In fact, they are totally suppressd in Indian historical studies, because of their proven navigational skills. 
 
That's pitty. We should not avoid speculation. Of course, we should be very careful to declare when one is exposing a theory and not a proven fact.
 
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Pallavas had been there in SEA countries and Maldieves also.

And they were in South India.
 
How, they could have been there at such places situated thousands of kilometres away from each other without ships?
 
Similarly, Cholas must have gone there, but asking to produce the ship that was used by Rajaraja Chola or Rajendra Chola is different.
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I am wrong to believe there is a lack of documentation of the ships of those times?

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The documentation of ship has been there, but that is different from asking for the same same ship!
 
Other references, I have already posted above.
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The ships used by the Cholas made of wood and wooden parts must have been deteriorated.
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