Tipu Sultan -do you know him?

Hi Vivek,
He is probably from South India. In south India one of my Brahmin friend told me that if a Shudra happened to see the plate of the meal of a Brahmin, the Brahmin shall throw away his plate full of meal. This is highly not acceptable and an insulting act both to the plate of meal as well as to Shudra, a human being.
In north India the things are different and I have not seen even single case of this kind. The Brahmin Superiority is also exists here only in the books written by Brahmins otherwise it is matter of mutual respect among various groups of the societies. The Brahmins are respected in the form of Guru since Guru is comparable only to the parents in all the religions.If a Brahmin behaves in a manner not suitable to his Guru status he is not respectable.In Chambal Valley dominated by Gujjars, Rajputs of Gujjar stock ( The Tanwars) and Brahmins, there is a saying that if a Brahmin act in cheap manner unlike the Gurus he is a begger since he survives on the alms given by Khastriyas. The person who gives alms holds his hands higher and thus is superior. It is only the Guru Dakshina ( Tuition Fees )which was offered at the feet of Gurus ( That time all the Gurus used be Brahmins) hence the place of Guru is higher. In Mewar the brahmins were called as Mangtas (The beggers)since the informer to Allauddin Khilji about the Mewar happened to be a Brahmin.This fact is recorded by Col Todd. The Ministers in Solankis of patan and Guhilas of Mewar used to be Jains scholars and not Brahmins. Bhama Shah was one such Jain scholar who returned all his wealth to Rana Pratap to raise his army against Akbar.


    
    
    

Edited by AP Singh - 03-Nov-2006 at 03:32

Hi Tipu,
I would suggest that if you find people who were Great and came from a society who was downtrodden and write about them. You will find lot of them. There growth was also uncomparable since they have travelled a great distance to their top right from the bottom.
Among Hindus you will find Chandra Gupt Morya who was made a king by a great Brahmin, Chanakya. There was no discrimination of caste and creed during the mauryan empire. There was another great Brahmin, Samarth Guru Ramdass, the Guru of the great warrior Shivaji. During Maratha rule also there was no caste based discrimination. For example the Sindhias rose to one of the highest power. The father of Mahadji Scindia used to take care of the shoes of the Balaji rao Peshwa and thus the rise of scindias was from bottom to top.
During Sikh rule also there was no caste based discrimination.Shere Punjab Raja Ranjeet Singh belonged to clan called Sansi. Raja sansi Airport at amritsar is named after him. In Delhi, the sansia are still vegetable sellers. Hence it is not always right to take a single line of thought and start abusing everybody based on caste lines.

    

Edited by AP Singh - 03-Nov-2006 at 03:27

hello vivek,yes sir i am a student and i try to be islamic but that does not mean that i am a supporter or sympatheiser of that anti national pro pakistan simi like you are a supporter of the anti national and pro -brahmin bagrang dal.
i am an indian a proud indian who hates brahmin superiority like my leader periyar ramasawmi.
for thousands of years brahmins have raped and tortured untouchables and know when dalits want just a small reservation in seats they oppose it and some act as if they support dalits i believe in my teacher's(periyar)teachings that a brahmin is as cunning as a fox and as shrewd as a jackal whom we must never ever trust.
read and subscribe to the dalit voice.

Hi Tipu,
I also heard about Nambudripad Brahmins and they made lot of people fools in the name of religion including Nairs who was a ruling class in Kerala. It is said that the eldest son of Namboodripad Brahmins can only marry among Brahmins and the other sons had to marry in Nairs. They also made the rule that the property of nairs is to be given to the children of their daughters. That means it will indirectly go to children of the Brahmins who married to the daughter of the Nairs. Due to this kind of religious teachings only the Brahmins were catagorised as Mangta (Beggar) in Mewar because these Mangtas can not make all people fools all the time. That is why Swami Daya Nand has given birth to Arya Samaj in north India where Yagna is performed among Hindus but no Brahmin is required to perform the same. Please note that Swami Dayanand was also a brahmin who was against certain rituals performed in Hindu religion by Brahmins which were inserted by these Mangtas (Beggars) for their own interest. Not only these Mangtas but the Muslims Maulvis also enjoyed this weakness of hinduism. There was a Muslim shrine where every newly wed bride irrespective of her religion and caste and creed had to pass to take the blessings of God and there she was bound to be raped by Mullas. Once Swami dayanand went in the cloths of the bride and killed those Mullas sitting inside ready to rape the new coming bride. Any body can adopt Arya Samaj irrespective of his caste and creed as one need not go to a temple.
Similarly there were so many saints like kabir Das, Guru Nanak, Swami Dayanand etc etc. who opposed the many useless customs in Hindu religion which were made by these beggars. Hence my siggestion was to target these beggars and not true Brahmins like Chankya, Samarth Guru Ram Das, Swami Daya Nand who were selfless and worked in the overall interest of their country and the whole mankind.
I am proud to say that my country India is truly a secular country because of the teachings of these Great Gurus and not because constitutionally it is declared as a secular country by political leaders.
    
    

Edited by AP Singh - 03-Nov-2006 at 03:24

Tipu I notice that your thinking is somewhat deviant from the normal SIMI thinking.

I had guessed you are not brave enough to admit the truth about your belongings. Thanks for proving me right.

does it not contridict itself-lol
and hey i am back for you to stop all your anti-islam and anti dalit propaganda.
member of rss read the dalit voice for i am a patron and supporter of dalit voice.here i will give you a link

http://www.dalitvoice.org/
you ltte supporter and you anti national brahmin who wants to turn india into a brahmin state your dream will never ever come true.dalits know how to fight now for their rights.

Welcome Tipu, the great in a new avtaar. Or am I wrong ? 

Is the work of I. M. Muthanna, "Tippu Sultan X-rayed" mentioned?

So what?