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Kamran the Great
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Topic: Yazdgerd's reply to the Caliph Posted: 26-Sep-2006 at 03:04 |
Can anyone point me to a reliable text of Yazdgerd's reply to Omar when the latter invited him to convert to Islam?
English or Persian, as long as it's from a reliable source.
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Posted: 27-Sep-2006 at 04:04 |
Originally posted by Kamran the Great
Can anyone point me to a reliable text of Yazdgerd's reply to Omar when the latter invited him to convert to Islam?
English or Persian, as long as it's from a reliable source.
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Edited by Hellios - 27-Sep-2006 at 04:05
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Cyrus Shahmiri
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Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 04:21 |
There was no such a letter.
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Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 04:40 |
I think Muhammad sent a letter to Khusro II.
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Kamran the Great
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Posted: 30-Oct-2006 at 01:31 |
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri
There was no such a letter. |
no such letter ?!?!?!?!?
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Posted: 04-Nov-2006 at 00:04 |
The letter you're looking for actually does not exist, it is an internet forgery, and has shown to be so by iran scholars. anyways, here is the text of it nonetheless: In the name of Ahuramazda the Creator of Life and Wisdom
From the
Shahan-Shah of Iran Yazdgerd to Omar Ibn Khat'tab the Arab Calif. In your
letter you summon us Iranians to your god whom you call "Allah-u-Akbar"; and
because of your barbarity and ignorance, without knowing who we are and Whom we
worship, you demand that we seek out your god and become worshippers of
"Allah-u-Akbar".
How strange that you occupy the seat of the Arab Calif
but are as ignorant as any desert roaming Arab! You admonish me to become
monotheistic in faith. Ignorant man, for thousands of years we Aryaee have,
in this land of culture and art, been monotheistic and five times a day have
we offered prayers to God's Throne of Oneness. While we laid the foundations
of philanthropy and righteousness and kindness in this world and held high
the ensign of "Good Thoughts, Good Words and Good Deeds", you and your
ancestors were desert wanderers who ate snakes and lizards and buried your
innocent daughters alive.
You Arabs who have no regard for God's
creatures, who mercilessly put people to the sword, who mistreat your
women and bury you daughters alive, who attack caravans and are highway
robbers, who commit murder, who kidnap women and spouses; how dare you
presume to teach us, who are above these evils, to worship God?
You
tell me to cease the worship of fire and to worship God instead! To us
Iranians the light of Fire is reminiscent of the Light of God. The radiance
and the sun-like warmth of fire exuberates our hearts, and the pleasant
warmth of it brings our hearts and spirits closer together, that we may be
philanthropic, kind and considerate, that gentleness and forgiveness may
become our way of life, and that thereby the Light of God may keep shining in
our hearts.
Our God is the Great Ahuramazda. Strange is this that you
too have now decided to give Him a name, and you call Him by the name of
"Allah-u-Akbar".
But we are nothing like you. We, in the name of
Ahuramazda, practice compassion and love and goodness and righteousness and
forgiveness, and care for the dispossessed and the unfortunate; But you,
in the name of your "Allah-u-Akbar" commit murder, create misery and subject
others to suffering! Tell me truly who is to blame for your misdeeds? Your
god who orders genocide, plunder and destruction, or you who do these things
in his name? Or both?
You, who have spent all your days in brutality and
barbarity, have now come out of your desolate deserts resolved to teach, by
the blade and by conquest, the worship of God to a people who have for
thousands of years been civilized and have relied on culture and knowledge
and art as mighty supports.
What have you, in the name of your
"Allah-u-Akbar", taught these armies of Islam besides destruction and pillage
and murder that you now presume to summon others to your god?
Today, my
people's fortunes have changed. Their armies, who were subjects of
Ahuramazada, have now been defeated by the Arab armies of
"Allah-u-Akbar". And they are being forced, at the point of the sword, to
convert to the god by the name of "Allah-u-Akbar". And are forced to offer
him prayers five times a day but now in Arabic; since your "Allah-u-Akbar"
only understands Arabic.
I advise you to return to your lizard infested
deserts. Do not let loose upon our cities your cruel barbarous Arabs who are
like rabid animals. Refrain from the murder of my people. Refrain from
pillaging my people. Refrain from kidnapping our daughters in the name of
your "Allah-u-Akbar". Refrain from these crimes and evils.
We Aryaee
are a forgiving people, a kind and well-meaning people. Wherever we go, we
sow the seeds of goodness, amity and righteousness. And this is why we have
the capacity to overlook the crimes and the misdeeds of your Arabs.
Stay
in your desert with your "Allah-u-Akbar", and do not approach our cities;
for horrid is your belief and brutish is your conduct.
Yazdgerd
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Posted: 04-Nov-2006 at 00:18 |
It is a forgery. But I don'y thinks the forgerer quite would have like the Caliphs real "reply".
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Posted: 27-Jun-2008 at 12:13 |
may I ask why you believe this a forged document? I have heard, parts of the original letters are kept in a museum in London!!?!
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Posted: 27-Jun-2008 at 14:11 |
Ask any Zoroasthrian and he will tell you why.
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Posted: 27-Jun-2008 at 17:58 |
This is a forgery by some Ultra-nationalists who hate Islam and Arabs. I have seen this nonsense before. It is obviously a fake one.
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Posted: 02-Jul-2008 at 05:03 |
Iranians are a great people.....except when they act pathetic.
Wasnt it the Europeans who taught the Iranians about their pre-Islamic History? Ive read somewhere most Iranians had no clue about Cyrus until the Europeans told them about him.
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Posted: 02-Jul-2008 at 06:58 |
Ok I doubt the above is true, Mughal.
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Posted: 02-Jul-2008 at 22:22 |
Cyrus is in the bible, Iranians have always had access to the bible. But some Iranians are pretty ignorant about Islam, I had to tell a few old people when I was there that Mohammad, Ali etc were not Iranians, they were Arabs.
Edited by Zagros - 02-Jul-2008 at 22:29
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Posted: 05-Jul-2008 at 13:40 |
I had to convince some Christians that Jesus was not white.
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Posted: 05-Jul-2008 at 19:44 |
What do you mean by white? Islamic sources claim he was fair haired. And many people from the Levant look "white".
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Posted: 05-Jul-2008 at 19:59 |
Actually I read somewhere that the streotypical depiction of him is pretty close to what he really looked like.
Apparently the first painting was done by a Roman, who had not known him, but had known Mary and some of the other disiple, and that subsequent images are derived from that.
Can't remember the source, or canm vouch for its veracity, but interesting nonetheless.
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