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Gundamor
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Topic: Jainism? Posted: 11-Jul-2006 at 21:22 |
I was reading a bunch of stuff on Chandragupta Maurya and came across that he became a ascetic under a religion called Jainism. This resulted in him dieing from self starvation by his own choice of course. I've not really heard much about this religion. Does it still have a large following within India? Also is it a spin off of another religion more commonly known religion or is it something that orginated on its own? Are there any big Temples that they built that maybe be confused by us in the west to be Hindu or Buddhist?
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Posted: 11-Jul-2006 at 21:42 |
I will answer in detail tommorow (it is half 2 in the UK at the moment) but to quickly answer your questions
Yes Jainism is still around. They are about 0.4% of the current Indian population. Some interesting facts about them are that they amongst the wealthiest groups in India and are also India's most litterate comunity. The religion is mainly concentrated in Gujarat where it has had a huge impact on Gujarati life and culture.
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Posted: 12-Jul-2006 at 01:29 |
Yeah my little bit of reading on it was kind of confusing I read about wealth and then I read about the ascetic's that didnt own anything. I'm not familiar with the caste system and alot of Indias intricacies so it might by my problem of understanding as well.
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Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 22:40 |
Well, 0.22% of the world's population's religion is Jainism. Mainly, Jainism stresses the spiritual independence and equality of all life with a particular emphasis on non-violence. Like Hinduism and Buddhism, Jainism originated in India, where today pretty much almost all of its adherents live. Jainism holds that animals, and even plants can participate to some degree in religious life. In your opinion, might animals posses any form of spirtuality?
This is a Jain temple in Ranakpur
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Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 23:13 |
Even more exact, Hinduism arose in India (North-East), Buddhism in Pakistan (Gandhara), and Jainism isnt certain, and might have been either India or Pakistan (Rajasthan and Gujerat being the main regions where Jainsim is currently practised).
Edited by TeldeInduz - 31-Jul-2006 at 23:14
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Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 23:42 |
Originally posted by TeldeInduz
Even more exact, Hinduism arose in India
(North-East), Buddhism in Pakistan (Gandhara), and Jainism isnt
certain, and might have been either India or Pakistan (Rajasthan and
Gujerat being the main regions where Jainsim is currently practised).
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Nonsense yet again from Telde. Hinduism arose in India. So did
Buddhism and Jainism. Buddha or Siddhartha as he was called
before he became "the enlightened one" was born in Eastern India ata
place called Lumbini, now part of Nepal. His father was a Hindu
Kshatriya.
Mahavira, the founder of Jainism was also born in the house of a Hindu
Kshatriya King. He was born a few hundred years before Buddha.
Both these religions embody quite a few concepts of Hinduism.
Great many temples of Buddhists and Jains were destroyed by muslim
invaders ( bunch of uncultured people from west Asia who could not
appreciate art and architecture of various Hindu/Jain and Buddhist
temples). Jains were able to reconstruct very many of there
temples but unfortunately buddhists were not able to do so.
Despite an organized attempt by muslim invaders to destroy Buddhist
temples some spectacular temples did survive. There were
elaborate system of underground caves which were carved
into temples and living quarters of the monks which still survuve today.
-Digs
Edited by Digvijay - 31-Jul-2006 at 23:43
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Posted: 01-Aug-2006 at 00:20 |
Originally posted by Digvijay
Originally posted by TeldeInduz
Even more exact, Hinduism arose in India (North-East), Buddhism in Pakistan (Gandhara), and Jainism isnt certain, and might have been either India or Pakistan (Rajasthan and Gujerat being the main regions where Jainsim is currently practised). |
Nonsense yet again from Telde. Hinduism arose in India. So did Buddhism and Jainism. |
Could be..Buddhism might have been founded in Bihar (dont think it's known) by a Nepali, I was thinking of the Mahayan branch of Buddhism. However, the Buddhism Canon Scrolls were discovered in Gandhara region as were much of the Buddhist art, so Gandhara was probably the main region where Buddhism was practised from 200 BC to 1100 AD.
Edited by TeldeInduz - 01-Aug-2006 at 01:13
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Posted: 01-Aug-2006 at 01:11 |
Originally posted by TeldeInduz
Originally posted by Digvijay
Originally posted by TeldeInduz
Even more exact,
Hinduism arose in India (North-East), Buddhism in Pakistan (Gandhara),
and Jainism isnt certain, and might have been either India or Pakistan
(Rajasthan and Gujerat being the main regions where Jainsim is
currently practised). |
Nonsense yet again from Telde. Hinduism arose in India. So did Buddhism and Jainism. |
Could be..Buddhism might have been founded in Bihar (dont think
it's known) by a Nepali, I was thinking of the Mahayan branch of
Buddhism. However, the Buddhism Canon Scrolls were discovered in
Gandhara region, so Gandhara was probably the main region where
Buddhism was practised from 200 BC to 1100 AD. |
No. You have to start using grey cells now. Figure out:
a) How buddhism spread.
b) Extant of Buddhism.
Once you figure these out: then ponder if there are scrolls found in Japan then would we ascribe rise of Buddhism to Japan?
-Digs
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Posted: 01-Aug-2006 at 01:16 |
It's more or less known that Buddhism did not take off in the region of India. It did in Gandhara. You know what the Buddhist Canon is?
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Posted: 01-Aug-2006 at 10:20 |
Originally posted by TeldeInduz
It's more or less known that Buddhism did not take
off in the region of India. It did in Gandhara. You know what the
Buddhist Canon is? |
Buddha preached, trained his disciples in India for more then three
decades, and these bhikshus (monks) spread the religion to
India/China/Japan/Korea/Lanka/West Asia and some how one should believe
you?
Look there are limits of being and writing stupid things. You have crossed them.
If you are a young person who lacks ability to do basic research then I
can point you to some sources, else you are wasting everyone's
time.
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Posted: 01-Aug-2006 at 19:01 |
TeleInduz, I really don't think Buddhism arose in Pakistan, but then again I may be wrong. Do you happen to have any sources on this?
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Posted: 01-Aug-2006 at 23:33 |
Originally posted by Jay.
TeleInduz, I really don't think Buddhism arose in Pakistan, but then again I may be wrong. Do you happen to have any sources on this? |
I think it was Mahayanan Buddhism that arose from Gandhara, or at least by a Gandharan (might have been convened at the 4th Buddhist Council in Kashmir by some Gandharan King (Kasniska) ). Mahayanan Buddhism is the most common form of Buddhism. The Buddhist Canon (probably of Mahayan Buddhism) that was discovered in Afghanistan was compiled by Sarvastivadin monks at this 4th council.
In fact, the first depictions of Buddha occured in Gandhara.
Only links I can find about Mahayana Buddhism are
Buddhism
Buddhism originally developed in India and spread to the Indus Valley in the 3rd century, 230 years after the Buddha's death. Gandhara, in northern Pakistan was Buddhism's most important northern centre and it was her that Mahayana Buddhism developed and in the Swat Valley, that tantric Buddhism developed.
Only a few Buddhists remain in Pakistan today but the museums in Pakistan are full of Buddhist art. These works, mostly statues of the Buddha and scenes from his life are being excavated from sites all of the country.
Though the Buddha did not visit Pakistan during his final incarnation, he is believed to have been there in some of his earlier lives. The legends of these former lives are told in stories and Buddhist shrines are built at the places described in them.
Tantric Buddhism might have originated in Swat Valley in Pakistan.
There are differing views as to just where Vajrayana started, some claiming that it began in Udyana - the modern day Swat valley in Pakistan, while others say that it began in southern India.
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Posted: 04-Aug-2006 at 09:20 |
Originally posted by TeldeInduz
Originally posted by Jay.
TeleInduz, I really don't think Buddhism
arose in Pakistan, but then again I may be wrong. Do you happen to have
any sources on this? |
I think it was Mahayanan Buddhism that arose from Gandhara, or at least by a Gandharan (might have been convened at the 4th Buddhist Council in Kashmir by some Gandharan King (Kasniska) ). .......
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You are still confused. My advice stop reading websites and start
pouring over some books by scholars. I know you will not take my advice.
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Posted: 05-Aug-2006 at 21:04 |
Buddha himself was a Bihari, Buddhism spread into Pakistan and Afghanistan early and was the dominant religion of the whole region before Islam started to trickle south from Arab areas of Iran and Central Asia.
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