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    Posted: 12-Jun-2006 at 20:17
Just about the only art that I know of from Hellenic times has been either preserved on pottery or as sculture.  The Romans later used the technique of designing mosaics, from which we get the famous depiction of Alexander's battle against the Persian army that was preserved in the ruins of Pompeii for so long.  But sources that I've read refer to that mosaic as being based upon an original artwork designed by a Greek artist contemporary to the conqueror.  That work is long gone, of course, but has there been any further evidence of similar artwork being in the historical record?

It would be a great irony if somewhere out there, a lost painting was lying undiscovered in a tomb or cave.  I think that art can tell much about an event or personality of the times and see no reason why ancient peoples wouldn't have used a sheet of linen or papyrus to illustrate a scene from their history as we do with paper today.
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Originally posted by YusakuJon3

I think that art can tell much about an event or personality of the times and see no reason why ancient peoples wouldn't have used a sheet of linen or papyrus to illustrate a scene from their history as we do with paper today.
 
One factor might be the availability of papyrus.  Not only was papyrus limited to certain areas, but it needed a very dry climate to be preserved.  Though the Helenic world is not a rainforest, it is wetter than Egypt.  Vellum is very costly to produce and The West didnot seem to place much emphasis on paper development. (Unlike Asia in which paper making was (is) valued as a cultural art) 
 
For some reason, drawing and painting didnot mirror sculpture development in the West.  Accurate perspetive in Sculpture was developed by the Hellenic Greeks, but accurate perspective in painting waited until the Rennasiance.
 
Other factors might include a very limited selection of colors.   Advanced natural pigments were not developed until the Middle Ages and chemically enhanced pigments were not available until the rennasiance.


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sculpture, pottery, and last but not least, architecture.
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Dec-2006 at 18:20
Originally posted by Cryptic

Originally posted by YusakuJon3

I think that art can tell much about an event or personality of the times and see no reason why ancient peoples wouldn't have used a sheet of linen or papyrus to illustrate a scene from their history as we do with paper today.


One factor might be the availability of papyrus.Not only was papyrus limited to certain areas, but it needed a verydry climate to be preserved. Though the Helenic world isnot a rainforest, it is wetter than Egypt. Vellum is very costly to produce and The West didnot seem to place much emphasis on paper development. (Unlike Asiain which paper makingwas (is) valued as a cultural art)


For some reason, drawing and painting didnot mirror sculpture development in the West. Accurate perspetive in Sculpture was developed by the Hellenic Greeks, but accurateperspective in painting waited until the Rennasiance.


Other factors might includea very limited selection of colors. Advanced natural pigments were not developed until the Middle Ages and chemically enhanced pigments were not available until the rennasiance.



Advanced natural pigments, or better stated, more complex formulations, were in existance as early as the minoans. Fresco was the medium most commonly used.
    
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