April 24- Operation "Eagle Claw"

Armenians of the west were under Turkish domination about 900 years. Turks definately had the chance to terminate Armenians if they discriminated them, long before 1915, and if Turks intended to do so, they would have done that long before appointing Armenians as their ministers or generals, and they wouldn't try to exterminate a whole nation during WWI when fighting in many fronts from Basra to Macedonia.

What I'm trying to say is that the myths of diaspora Armenians don't even sound familiar to Turkish Armenians. You learn the issue from either your government or French TVs, but lots of people in Turkey, learn the issue from their grandmothers. The diaspora ideology teaches you how evil Muslims burned your churches, but they don't teach you that Armenians have burned their mosques before that. You try to compare the Armenian deportations with modern concepts such as genocide or real examples of genocide like the extermination of Jews. And societies having sensibility to such historical disasters like Germans or Bosnians react the same way with you, because they've seen the true disaster themselves, and try to compare it with every other conflict they hear about. Anyway, still discussing who has suffered more is just nonsense.

Exactly.

The armenian term was coined in late 50s or 60s by the Armenian dominant class with the hope of establing an Armenian state in Turkey with the supposed support of international community . They though they could reach their goals thanks to already held opinions about the Turks.

Sterotypes are more likely to beeffective when they agree with previously held opinions.There is no doubt about how bad the image of the Ottoman Turks in the eys of the community in western hemisphere.

What is more,there was the problem of uniting Armenians worldwide,and buttressing the Armenian Identity. In order to establish a strong ''self'' they needed the ''other''...And the other was out there:the Turks.

Nothing better unites people more than a common enemy for a common enemy creates a common interest.

Make no mistake I have already ferred out all of sites that support your thesis.

I agree that we disagree.Plus there is no point of furtehring this discusion in accordance with rules.

all of the web-sites that tell the fables  by historians of Armenian origin.

Interesting that these sites were not refering to it.and Armenian historians were not refering either a few years ago...Maybe as times passed by they came up with new strategies to convince people

" your lies make me sick. one of my co-worker is Kurd from Kars and he calls himself a Turk, all other Kurds i know too. none of them want independence. you can call me denialist as you wish, doesn't help your cause at all though..."

Temujin, then he's not a Kurd, he's a Turk. I can promise you that, if they have a voting in Kurdistan (Turkey part) they would vote for independence.