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Topic: Scythians Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 18:12 |
This subject is very complicated but I hope forum members have an idea about origin of Scythians.
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Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 18:16 |
Shaman since you are new here welcome. By the way there are a few pages already on the Scythians in previous threads.
I noticed that you have made three of these polls. If you make a mistake let one of the moderators know so we could delete the other ones. Please no more rewriting newer the polls.
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Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 18:17 |
last I heard they were Iranian people, so there goes my vote
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Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 18:28 |
This is done to death.
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Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 20:43 |
um... iranian ofcourse. is this disputed by anyone?
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Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 21:36 |
isnt Iranian part of Indo-European
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 05:37 |
Yes, it is.But the best option was Scandinavian!! Hitler would certainly agree!!
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 09:46 |
They were probably a iranic people, not iranian ...
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 11:13 |
I think they're turk but there are many different idea about this subject. Because they're nomad and their social stuructere is the sama as Turks. Note; İranians are the part of the Indo-European. Sorry, I forgot that.
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 11:22 |
i thoght that they are Turkic before but i changed my mind
after reading some sources, i think they are İranic people
who lived nomadic culture.
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 13:48 |
As it turns out, they are Arian. But there just come some amazing statements by Herudot:'Sythians settled in places streching from Far East (this is odd to an Arian tribe which has got European background) to Dona. Their language was similar to Saramatians (???).
Later he added, when talking about Alans, number of RELATIVE tribes united under the name of 'Alans' which, he thought, should be part of Saramatians. Saramatians tend to be one of Steppe tribes, rather than an Arian. In his book, it's also said that Sythians were great enemies of Iran's King, Darius.
What's more, the shape, size and the symbols of instruments used by Sythians were exactly like that of YeniSei and Altai.
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 14:07 |
samartians are also iranic.
they were very closely related to the scythians.
and before the turkic migrations, central asia was almost practically completely iranic.
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 14:57 |
Iranic tribes are the part of indo-european family and their economical and social activities compeletly different from Turks, Sarmatians, Scythans or Roxolans. By the way except of some goverments of Iranic tribes has always controlled by Turks. Also all of Iranic goverments has a Turk rulers. Turks has always controlled and dominated other tribes in their place.
Biz Turkler tarih boyunca hurriyet ve istiklale timsal olmus bir milletiz. M.K.ATATURK
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 17:16 |
Originally posted by Shaman
Iranic tribes are the part of indo-european family and their economical and social activities compeletly different from Turks, Sarmatians, Scythans or Roxolans. By the way except of some goverments of Iranic tribes has always controlled by Turks. Also all of Iranic goverments has a Turk rulers. Turks has always controlled and dominated other tribes in their place.
Biz Turkler tarih boyunca hurriyet ve istiklale timsal olmus bir milletiz. M.K.ATATURK
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 18:02 |
Originally posted by Shaman
Iranic tribes are the part of indo-european family and their economical and social activities compeletly different from Turks, Sarmatians, Scythans or Roxolans. By the way except of some goverments of Iranic tribes has always controlled by Turks. Also all of Iranic goverments has a Turk rulers. Turks has always controlled and dominated other tribes in their place.
Biz Turkler tarih boyunca hurriyet ve istiklale timsal olmus bir milletiz. M.K.ATATURK
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Persians came from Central Asia to Iran, along with Medes and Parthians, Persians were nomads in the exact same style as Scythians.
Learn some history.
RohshAlani (Roxalani) means bright Alans, in reference to their grandeur. Rohsh (Persian) Rohx (Ossetian) = bright in Persian and Ossetian, Ossetians are the direct descendants of Alans.
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 18:31 |
Originally posted by Zagros
Persians came from Central Asia to Iran, along with Medes and Parthians, Persians were nomads in the exact same style as Scythians.
Learn some history.
RohshAlani (Roxalani) means bright Alans, in reference to their grandeur. Rohsh = bright in Persian and Ossetian, Ossetians are the direct descendants of Alans.
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Ok you say " Persians came from Central Asia to Iran". Where is Turks came from to Central Asia?. America? Turks don't steal history from other nations like you so our history and culture is original. Turkish culture isn't pathetic like your civilazition. Alans, Ossetians, Circassians, Roxolans and other "iranic" tribes are unimportant for us. Our glorious history don't need them. NSrO: rt:irğt>>
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 18:33 |
wow, this guy went form asking a question to showing his true intents in a matter of 10 posts.
i had a feeling you were pan turk the first time i read your post...
bye bye.
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 18:34 |
Ok you say " Persians came from Central Asia to Iran". Where is Turks came from to Central Asia?. America? Turks
don't steal history from other nations like you so our history and
culture is original. Turkish culture isn't pathetic like your
civilazition.
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 18:35 |
Where's the African option.
I vote African.
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Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 18:37 |
TURKS TEACH NEW THEORIES
Source:The New York Times Date:Feb. 9, 1936 ISTANBUL
Feb. 7-
In the presence of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk and members of the Cabinet the new
school of history, geography and literature recently was opened at Angora. Its
immediate purpose is to make the capital the cultural center of the republic
and, combined with the law school, it will be the nucleus of a complete
university, sister of the one at Istanbul. The significance of the new
foundation, however, is much wider and more ambitious, for its object is to
expound new theories on Turkish history and language for which no less a person
than Mr. Ataturk is responsible. The President of the Turkish Republic, besides
being a statesman and soldier of remarkable abilities, has considerable
knowledge about history and linguistic matters. As the result of many years of
labor in these directions, he has propounded certain theories which will be
taught in the new school at Angora. They are somewhat difficult to explain, but
their broad outlines are as follows: Work done by various scientists during the
last fifty years goes to show that the Turkish race has been grossly maligned by
older historians biased by racial or religious prejudices. The Turks are far form
being a predatory race of barbarians. The Turks reached, in remote ages, a high
state of culture which, during migrations into China, India, Mesopotamia and
Asia Minor, they spread among the less enlightened peoples. They should
therefore
really be considered the fathers of civilization and possessors of one of the
greatest and most glorious histories in the world. As regards language, the new
theory is called the "sun language." Starting with the conclusion
reached by the French scientist Hilaire de Baranton in his book "L'Origine
des Langues, des Religions et des Peuples," published in Paris three years
ago, that all languages originated from hieroglyphs and cuneiforms used by
Sumerians, the Turkish theory claims that the Sumerians, being Turks,
originating in Central Asia, all languages also consequently originated there
and first used by the Turks. the first language, in fact, came into being in
this wise: Prehistoric man, i.e., Turks in the most primitive stage, was so
struck by the effects of the sun on life that he made of it a deity whence
sprang all good and evil. Thence came to him light, darkness, warmth and fire,
with it were associated all ideas of time: height, distance, movement, size,
and give expression to his feelings the sun was thus the first thing to
which a name was given. It was "ag" [pronounced agh], and from this
syllable all words in use today are derived. This, briefly, is the theory about
the "sun language," and with the new conception of Turkish history it
will be taught in the new Angora school. Specialists will also teach Greek,
Latin, Sanskrit, Sumerian, Hittite, Chinese, French, English, German, Russian
and Hungarian. |
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