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    Posted: 02-Jun-2007 at 22:34
Originally posted by nikodemos

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I also think that even if we take the battle of Tours away from Charles Martel, the simple fact that he was involved in a series of Wars from 714 to 737, and at his death, he had lost only 1 battle.
 
He should at least be somewhere in the "top 10".


perhaps his name could be included in the top 100 but not in the top 10 in my opinion.
Subodai the Mongol,Philip II of Macedon, Belisarius,Rommel,Frederick II of Prussia,Eugene of Savoy,Tamerlane,Attila the Hun, Saladin,
there are so many great generals
 
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And my country is not pro-catholic,it IS catholic.LOL


i made a mistake because of my bad english i tried to say extreme catholic.
 
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Anyone who believes that Julius Caeser was not that great a general is ignorant. He was highly innovative and his tactics were more dynamic than either Napoleon or Rommel. And I agree with the suggestion that Scipio Africanus should be on the list - the guy was a genius.
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General Zod would cave his head in.

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Originally posted by Gaius Marius

Anyone who believes that Julius Caeser was not that great a general is ignorant. He was highly innovative and his tactics were more dynamic than either Napoleon or Rommel. And I agree with the suggestion that Scipio Africanus should be on the list - the guy was a genius.
Though you point maybe valid, it would be helpful if you would clarify it by giving your assessment as to why this should be looked at as being so. Btw, welcome to the forum. 
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Originally posted by St. Francis of Assisi

My list is:

1. Napoleon Bonaparte
2. Hannibal
3. Alexander the Great
4. Genghis Khan
5. Erwin Rommel


I can't believe you left out Sun Tzu.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man

Originally posted by St. Francis of Assisi

My list is:

1. Napoleon Bonaparte
2. Hannibal
3. Alexander the Great
4. Genghis Khan
5. Erwin Rommel


I can't believe you left out Sun Tzu.


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The fact that Robert E Lee only got a couple of mentions in this entire thread proves the idea that 'History is written by the victors'.  Stonewall Jackson is victim to this as well to a lesser degree.
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Or it shows that on an overall view of history, neither gens. mentioned, aren't worthy of much more than a mention.
 
But, for the moment, I'll focus on the ACW, being a fair general, facing a bunch of poor ones, doesn't make you a great one.  Just better than your opponents.
 
And with opponents like Ambrose Burnside,  That's not much of a jump. Big smile
 
 
 
 
 


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My opinion is

1 gengis khan
2 khalid bin walleed
3 napoleon banporet
4 julius ceaser
5 erwin rommel

History records that 1 and 2 have never lost a battle in there life they etier drew or won
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Yes! Welcome, browse around and find some subject to speak about.

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Sun Tzu, 544–496 BC- the Chinese General and Philosopher wrote "The Art of War" a book studied all over the world still. His writings point to the most common sense points of War, and he must rank as the greatest ever.
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Thanks for being fair? Your assessments of the South's leadership really stinks! You are using your rank to lead the team for someone else that you regard!

Lee and Jackson were mostly undefeatable until Jackson's death! In almost ever battle the Union troop were in a two to one advantage, yet you disparage on both sides!

And this war was basically ignored in Europe and Asia, etc.!

Ashamed you should be, RedClay

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How about Guderian?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Guderian

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Originally posted by Gaius Marius

Anyone who believes that Julius Caeser was not that great a general is ignorant. He was highly innovative and his tactics were more dynamic than either Napoleon or Rommel. And I agree with the suggestion that Scipio Africanus should be on the list - the guy was a genius.


Is there any "real" proof that he ever lived or led?

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And all of them (the American Civil war generals) were trained at the same Academy! This must mean something?

Ron

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Do you really need to now who were the BEST??? :))
Now I show you:

1. Gengis Khan
2. Alexander the great
3. Hanibal
4. Giulio Cesare
5. Napoleon
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Originally posted by red clay

Or it shows that on an overall view of history, neither gens. mentioned, aren't worthy of much more than a mention.
 

But, for the moment, I'll focus on the ACW, being a fair general, facing a bunch of poor ones, doesn't make you a great one.  Just better than your opponents.

 

And with opponents like Ambrose Burnside,  That's not much of a jump. Big smile

 

 

 

 

 


Well said by a good Yankee supporter!

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