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    Posted: 30-Sep-2004 at 09:14
Intresting, but isn't Arabic 'Deek Romi' - Romainian bird or something?

And why do the Dutch call it a Kalkoen?
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Someone forwarded me this;

Talking Turkey: The Story of How the Unofficial Bird of the United States Got Named After a Middle Eastern Country
(by Giancarlo Casale)

>         How did the turkey get its name? This seemingly harmless
>  question popped into my head one morning as I realized that the
>  holidays were once again upon us. After all, I thought, there's
>  nothing more American than a turkey. Their meat saved the pilgrims
>  from starvation during their first winter in New England. Out of
>  gratitude, if you can call it that, we eat them for Thanksgiving
>  dinner, and again at Christmas, and gobble them up in sandwiches all
>  year long. Every fourth grader can tell you that Benjamin Franklin
>  was particularly fond of the wild turkey, and even campaigned to
>  make it, and not the bald eagle, the national symbol. So how did
>  such a creature end up taking its name from a medium sized country
>  in the Middle East? Was it just a coincidence? I wondered.
>
>        The next day I mentioned my musings to my landlord, whose wife
>  is from Brazil. "That's funny," he said, "In Portuguese the word for
> turkey is 'peru.' Same bird, different country." Hmm.
>
>        With my curiosity piqued, I decided to go straight to the
>  source. That very afternoon I found myself a Turk and asked him how
>  to say turkey in Turkish. "Turkey?" he said. "Well, we call
>  turkeys 'hindi,' which means, you know, from India." India? This was
>  getting weird.
>
>        I spent the next few days finding out the word for turkey in
>  as many languages as I could think of, and the more I found out, the
>  weirder things got. In Arabic, for instance, the word for turkey
>  is "Ethiopian bird," while in Greek it is "gallapoula" or "French
>  girl." The Persians, meanwhile, call them "buchalamun" which means,
>  appropriately enough, "chameleon."
>
>        In Italian, on the other hand, the word for turkey
>  is "tacchino" which, my Italian relatives assured me, means nothing
>  but the bird. "But," they added, "it reminds us of something else.
>  In Italy we call corn, which as everybody knows comes from
>  America, 'grano turco,' or 'Turkish grain.'" So here we were back to
> Turkey again! And as if things weren't already confusing enough, a
> further consultation with my Turkish informant revealed that the
>  Turks call corn "misir" which is also their word for Egypt!
>
>        By this point, things were clearly getting out of hand. But I
>  persevered nonetheless, and just as I was about to give up hope, a
>  pattern finally seemed to emerge from this bewildering labyrinth. In
>  French, it turns out, the word for turkey is "dinde," meaning "from
>  India," just like in Turkish. The words in both German and Russian
>  had similar meanings, so I was clearly on to something. The key, I
>  reasoned, was to find out what turkeys are called in India, so I
>  called up my high school friend's wife, who is from an old Bengali
>  family, and popped her the question.
>
>        "Oh," she said, "We don't have turkeys in India. They come
>  from America. Everybody knows that."
>
>        "Yes," I insisted, "but what do you call them?"
>        "Well, we don't have them!" she said. She wasn't being very
> helpful. Still, I persisted:
>
>        "Look, you must have a word for them. Say you were watching an
> American movie translated from English and the actors were all
>  talking about turkeys. What would they say?"
>
>        "Well...I suppose in that case they would just say the
>  American word, 'turkey.' Like I said, we don't have them."
>        So there I was, at a dead end. I began to realize only too
> late that I had unwittingly stumbled upon a problem whose solution
>  lay far beyond the capacity of my own limited resources. Obviously I
>  needed serious professional assistance. So the next morning I
>  scheduled an appointment with Prof. inasi Tekin of Harvard
>  University, a world-renowned philologist and expert on Turkic
>  languages. If anyone could help me, I figured it would be Professor
>  Tekin.
>
>        As I walked into his office on the following Tuesday, I knew I
>  would not be disappointed. Prof. Tekin had a wizened, grandfatherly
>  face, a white, bushy, knowledgeable beard, and was surrounded by
>  stack upon stack of just the sort of hefty, authoritative books
>  which were sure to contain a solution to my vexing Turkish mystery.
>  I introduced myself, sat down, and eagerly awaited a dose of Prof.
>  Tekin's erudition.
>
>        "You see," he said, "In the Turkish countryside there is a
>  kind of bird, which is called a ulluk. It looks like a turkey but
>  it is much smaller, and its meat is very delicious. Long before the
>  discovery of America, English merchants had already discovered the
>  delicious ulluk, and began exporting it back to England, where it
> became very popular, and was known as a 'Turkey bird' or simply
>  a 'turkey.' Then, when the English came to America, they mistook the
>  birds here for ulluks, and so they began calling them 'turkey"
>  also. But other peoples weren't so easily fooled. They knew that
> these new birds came from America, and so they called them things
>  like 'India birds,' 'Peruvian birds,' or 'Ethiopian birds.' You
>  see, 'India,' 'Peru' and 'Ethiopia' were all common names for the
>  New World in the early centuries, both because people had a hazier
>  understanding of geography, and because it took a while for the
>  name 'America' to catch on.
>
>        "Anyway, since that time Americans have begun exporting their
>  birds everywhere, and even in Turkey people have started eating
>  them, and have forgotten all about their delicious ulluk. This is a
>  shame, because ulluk meat is really much, much tastier."
>
>        Prof. Tekin seemed genuinely sad as he explained all this to
>  me. I did my best to comfort him, and tried to express my regret at
>  hearing of the unfairly cruel fate of the delicious ulluk. Deep
>  down, however, I was ecstatic. I finally had a solution to this
>  holiday problem, and knew I would be able once again to enjoy the
> main course of my traditional Thanksgiving dinner without
> reservation.
>
>        Now if I could just figure out why they call those little
>  teeny dogs Chihuahuas....
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