is this Attila�s capital?

Official compilation report of investigations at Cornesti circa 1979-1993 in Romanian. bolded section says that they recognize 3 wall circuits for an area of 580ha and what do they say it is? only sort of an idea?? noticed the fourth wall maybe?? did they note its over top of the roman wall?

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i think if you look at all sources, only one calls it a large village and leaves it at that [the most questionable source of all possibly], all others immediately burst into descriptions of a vast city with great walls which is logical and its silly to think it was otherwise. this was a great man good or evil. he thought the gods chose him to rule the world. be real about the situation. a village? the boy had seen pareee remember. not defensible, right. maybe the outer city wall was smallish. maybe the inner city wall too, they didn't make it on the mercydorff map. but decidedly the palace wall was grand it states it right there but still not for defense like the walls of constantinople. the scale of the two cities necessitate a comparison to me and most likely to him. and a pallisade of pretty wood to boot.

here's my deal. i want it dug. i know its massive. how do you make it happen? present a line of thought that is logical maybe true but heavy on mystery then let voluntourism, the media, the fieldschool system and human nature take over. Attilas the key and maybe even the answer. we do not know but we cannot say not.  its not evil to say it is and pure logic dictates that theres a better chance that it is than not in my opinion and in the opinion of those not programmed by the man..

and whats with the where to dig stuff. you have questions? are you looking for the shiitehouses of the common man? a roman bathhouse? i can't help but suspect that it would take the time it took to drive across the field to find that. heck check out the necroplois if it is. a whole pack of huns would answer your question.

and tom do you have google earth? if so did the 3d tiltring at all affect your first impression from the flat overhead?

now to me something that large, built where it is cries out for the simplest explanation. would not an earlier unknown culture with that much power be more improbable? my idea changes a couple of words in a paragraph, you want to write new chapters and edit all the others but that has many merits. is the bosnian pyramid fellow getting any support or press anymore. are the digs proceeding? i don't know myself.

i've now shaken my head 11 times.

you seem to be able to get away with saying lots that means nothing and nothing that means lots so that limits you to only a few possble professions/states of being. politician, ........., lawyer, teenager, ex wife. [these are the only 4 i don'tcare about offending en masse]

no matter what size youre prone to thinking attilas army was, their camp was always more that a village. i just can't see attila hanging out with 100 of his buddies which is what a village is [oh and there must be one welsh blonde gay].  30,000 riders would need a good size space, services, structure [a city] and even you must admit the literature says hundreds of thousands.

i keep imagining what would go through eminent minds if it were true. the little holes they'd be digging would be to crawl in. i think you do sometimes tom so youre either eminent [r/i],15 or a politcian. youre not my exwife even though you aggravate me sorta like her and i haven't gotten a bill for our conversations so youre not a lawyer.

tell me why you can discount jordanes.  gibbons is just for fun but i would like to hear your reason for the former. you are saying you realize that jordanes and the silly canadian translation were based on the same document and thats what they understood of it 100years after written with other then extant sources [jordanes] and what they got out of 1 fragment of 1 source [supposedly] 1500 years latter?

but lets stop beating around the bush. lets say you had the funding for a season, is there anyone reading this that has the creds and interest to dig? the license app is online.  you'd probably have a camera up your arse 24/7 and responsibility to run it as a fieldschool [maybe the largest ever]. making it happen would depend on the creds of course and since i had a big mouth, someone might be eyeing the choice bits of it, who really knows.

this isn't the place for this but lets see.

my theory of the journey.

when they crossed the danube it was just west of the iron gates. there is a small range of pleasant hills in the plain. Attila was there having a thermal bath getting ready for his wedding night.

he tookthe easy route north and sent the romans on a round about route so they'd have no real idea where the city was and give him time to celebrate but ultimately they all say the the destination was north of where they started.

he had the eastern romans and the western romans coming to dinner at the same time and was too smart to show them both exactly where he lived. in gibbon it states that the romans thought they were being played with, crossing the same river many times but under a different name. the tisza is such the you can cross it thinking you are  traveling east when you are traveling west, north when south etc, that is of course before the compass.

i think bledas wifes village was probably near sanandrea [big swamp may ruins] which is very near the main road that would have led from the easy crossing at timisoara which attila took, to the capital city.

do you see the large field of [pitgraves?] i've read that this necroplois would have been subdivided in status areas. the common grave would be rectangular with a round cap [not kurgan] of stones as small as 6 feet

tom is your heraldic title duke of hardnut

from priscus sort of...===========Having waited for some time until Attila advanced in front of us, we proceeded, and having crossed some rivers we arrived at a large village, where Attila's house was said to be more splendid than his residences in other places. It was made of polished boards, and surrounded with a wooden enclosure, designed, not for protection, but for appearance.

from gibbon===========In its origin it could be no more than an accidental camp, which, by the long and frequent residence of Attila, had insensibly swelled into a huge village, for the reception of his court, of the troops who followed his person, and of the various multitude of idle or industrious slaves and retainers. The baths, constructed by Onegesius, were the only edifice of stone; the materials had been transported from Pannonia; and since the adjacent country was destitute even of large timber, it may be presumed that the meaner habitations of the royal village consisted of straw, of mud, or of canvas. The wooden houses of the more illustrious Huns were built and adorned with rude magnificence, according to the rank, the fortune, or the taste of the proprietors. They seem to have been distributed with some degree of order and symmetry; and each spot became more honourable as it approached the person of the sovereign. The palace of Attila, which surpassed all other houses in his dominions, was built entirely of wood, and covered an ample space of ground. The outward enclosure was a lofty wall, or palisade, of smooth square timber, intersected with high towers, but intended rather for ornament than defence. This wall, which seems to have encircled the declivity of a hill, comprehended a great variety of wooden edifices, adapted to the uses of royalty. A separate house was assigned to each of the numerous wives of Attila [300?]; and, instead of the rigid and illiberal confinement imposed by Asiatic jealousy, they politely admitted the Roman ambassadors to their presence, their table, and even to the freedom of an innocent embrace.

from jordanes============During this peace Attila was lord over all the Huns and almost the sole earthly ruler of all the tribes of Scythia; a man marvellous for his glorious fame among all nations. The historian Priscus, who was sent to him on an embassy by the younger Theodosius, says this among other things: "Crossing mighty rivers--namely, the Tisia and Tibisia and Dricca--we came to the place where long ago Vidigoia, bravest of the Goths, perished by the guile of the Sarmatians. At no great distance from that place we arrived at the village where King Attila was dwelling,--a village, I say, like a great city, in which we found wooden walls made of smooth-shining boards, whose joints so counterfeited solidity that the union of the boards could scarcely be distinguished by close scrutiny. There you might see dining halls of large extent and porticoes planned with great beauty, while the courtyard was bounded by so vast a circuit that its very size showed it was the royal palace." This was the abode of Attila, the king of all the barbarian world; and he preferred this as a dwelling to the cities he captured.

in the tales of the hungarian steppe============= bledas messengers were stunned when they saw attilas city.

i think when priscus said not built for defense, he was right. in 448ad, a large wood pallisade would not have defended anything from anything. constantinople was defended with huge stone walls, towers bastions etc etc. as were any roman city that attila conquered.

and yes please, let me borrow your archaeolgy diploma and i'll go and dig it. if i were you all i'd dig it. there aren't many things to find out there which could make you rich and famous anymore.