Which one is the Worlds Oldest Carpet

the 9 first pictures are from the pazyryk , its 2500 years old, the other are diffrenet turkoman carpets, dating from various periods ,  as I said it is interesting to note the similarity , 

I ahve found some site which discuss and give theoris about the carpets, a great site that I recommend is

www.turkotek.com and http://www.tcoletribalrugs.com/index.html ,  they have articles and discussion at their site, take a look,  thay have many links to , thought that their are many online both commercial and non-c�mmercialrugs sites,  take a look, 

At turkotek I foudn some intersting arcticles ,one  special  article that gives a theory that the turkoman design or gulcan be traised back to the annu culture, 

Isn't that far feched ,I think , youcan read it if you would like at ,

but note that that the some articles are debate at a high level,

damn it , I can't find it now, but i will post it later, but i didfind another article which has nice pic in it , look  Rugs in orential paint'ings is it called.

http://www.turkotek.com/salon_00105/salon.html , I hope you enjoy , I have a quetion for whose who have seen the pic at the link, how does the painter of the painting draw the design of the carpetsso well, look ,the painter has done a excellent job, how does the painter managed it ???

 i have a carpet from afghanistan that looks very similar to the top one and is the one i have always thought to be the oldest surviving carpet. Am amazed how the colors are almost as vivid as the one i have now.

 How much does an average rug cost in Turkey or Iran?

Cyrus Wrote:

Hmmm, there wherent lving any persians even lose to pazyryk, it is a redicouls estatment that everybody knows that it was persian who develped them. The kurgans where clearly of proto-turkic origin. 

I was coming to my next question , is the carpet an invention of the steppes,?

Every inventon of the ancient have had a logical  reason why it was develpod and invented, for example, ( there are many examples ) the oldest jeans or pants where found in the steppes! The oldest jenas/ pants where found in the steppes some where , it is generally considered that the pants where a inventon of the steppes,

You could ask yourslef why did the pants intent at the steppes first?

The reason that is given , is that with pants/jeans you can't ride a horse for long time. With pants/ jeans it makes you can ride a wholeday if you want to. 

DId you understand my point! Pants where invented in the steppes due to the transportion mobility it gave. without the mobility the steppe people coulnd't have raised the cattle and without cattle where wound't be any production and people would starve to dead,

The pants/ jenas made it live easier for the people who lived on the steppe,

I hope you understand my point,

In the same way the geografi made the steppe people start   making carpets of the hair of the cattle, ( mostly sheep or only shep hair I think).

The yurts or ger, would be placed out in the open field or in the some closed areas. The yurt ( home of the sheaperds) would be placed at the ground. The ground is hard and cold sometimes and therefor it need to be  cover with something so that they wouldnt sleep ( eat live,and other things people did at thier yurts)  at the ground itslef. Therefor the come up with the idea of creating a thing out of the hair they got from their animals. They made it in deffernt patterns adn shapesso that it would cover the floor( ground of the yurt) , thats how the carpet was invented,

It is my opion, and it is what I have learned. The invention of the carpet hade a reason, geografik reason as the pants had,  Ihopeyou understand my post , 

What do you think , it is logical theory ???

there are other examples to of how the geografi of a region or area makes people invent thingsto make live easier , but I can't remember any other for the momnet, ( there are actually thoundsan of them,  )

Isn't all invention for the beging created to make things easier for people???