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    Posted: 02-Nov-2006 at 05:56

Actually, I was reading an old BBC history the other day and came across a very interesting article- Archaeologists in Pompeii have come across a stack of preserved scrolls that (apparently) contain works from Livy, Virgil, Ovid, Tacitus and Ovid. They cannot look at these scrolls, though obviously until they have the neccesary machinery they cannot look at the scrolls and this machinery costs a vast amount of money. I believe that there is a fund. I read this BBC history first about a year and a half ago, and so I don't know of their progress.

...Interesting story though!
 
...Also, what do you mean "Burnt the books?"
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  Quote Theodore Felix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Nov-2006 at 16:47
    A large collection of early church letters and histories.

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/
    
Lacus Curtius Latin Texts

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  Quote kilroy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Nov-2006 at 17:49
Excellent sites! 
A few More..
 
http://www.msu.edu/~tyrrell/  -  Home page of one of Michigan States Classics Professor's.  Good articles, such as one on Caesars Lieutenant, Labienius.  Also, links to other good classics websites, such as MIT's Archive.
 
http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Jordanes.html - A good secton fo Jordanes The Origins and Deeds of the Goths. 
 
And as mentioned before - http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/asbook.html -  This is the Homepage however.  Excellent site. 
 
http://www.forumromanum.org/index2.html - has a good section of primary sources and other groovy Roman history stuff. 
 
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/bmcr/ - another very good site, i highly recommend.
 
 
Thats all for now!


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I dont have a link, sorry I have only the hard copy, but if you havent read it then its wortha  pickup.
 
The Meditations, by Marcus Aurelius.
 
Philosophy from a very interesting man, really helps you see how a Roman Emperor saw the world around him.
 
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  Quote kilroy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Feb-2007 at 23:52
http://www.uah.edu/student_life/organizations/SAL/texts/index.html

This link has tons of primary resources.  Examples are, Sallust and his accounts of the Catiline Conspiracy, Jugurthine War and others.  Casears Bello Gallico (latin only).  Many of Cicero's works.  Horace, Livy, Tacitus and Virgil.  Enjoy Thumbs%20Up.
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  Quote Aster Thrax Eupator Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Jul-2007 at 04:38
Hmmm...I'll be keeping some of the links in this thread in my mind... thanks Kilroy
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Can anyone point me to any source regarding the dialogues of Diogenes and Alexander the Great?
Thank you in advance!
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  Quote kilroy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Jan-2008 at 04:58
Originally posted by Heliocles

Can anyone point me to any source regarding the dialogues of Diogenes and Alexander the Great?
Thank you in advance!


I think i may have what you are looking for.  Try the link below, 

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Alexander*/home.html

Plutarch's version of the meeting between the two at Corinth when Alexander made his famous quote "if i were not Alexander, i would be Diogenes." 

You'll find that story under the very first section (1-24.3) P259.  Hope this is it, happy reading.

Edit:  This particular reading is an English translation.  


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  Quote Heliocles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Jan-2008 at 13:21
Thank you for your answer Kilroy.
Actually i am looking for a work presenting more extended dialogues between Diogenes and Alexander. I think the name of the ancient author is Dion or Dionas or something similar.
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  Quote kilroy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Jan-2008 at 18:08
Originally posted by Heliocles

Thank you for your answer Kilroy.
Actually i am looking for a work presenting more extended dialogues between Diogenes and Alexander. I think the name of the ancient author is Dion or Dionas or something similar.


Hmm.  Maybe you can try a section of Diogenes Laertius' ( 200 CE) The Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers.  A section which is dedicated to Diogenes of Sinope which i know relates a conversation between Diogenes and Alexander, but again i don't know if it is what you are looking for.  This is the only other piece of work that i can think of.

http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/ancient/diogeneslaertius-book6-cynics.html#Diogenes

Naturally its under the 'Life of Diogenes'. 
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Again,thank you Kil.
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Aristotle- The Athenian Constitution (350 BCE):
Pausanias- Description of Greece  (160 C.E) http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/ancient/pausanias-bk1.html
 
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  Quote rich Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Apr-2008 at 18:47
Library of Translated Latin Texts
1. Alexander: book: 3, 5, 6, 9, 10 
2. Amianus: book: 15, 17 
3. Apulius: Metamorphasis: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11; Dog1, Dog2, Cupid, DeMundo, DeosSocrates 
4. Augustus: Res Getae: 1, 2 
5. Avienus: Ora Maritima, Periegesis 
6. Calcidius: Timaeus - Calcidius Latin + English + dividers 
7. Cattalus: Carmina 
8. Cicero: Nature of the Gods 1, 2, 3; Tuscan Disputations: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5; Timaeus: English, Latin + English 
9. Cornarius: Critias - English
10. Dares: Trojan War
11. Ficino: Critias Commentary - English
12. Flacus: Argonautica: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 
13. Gellius: Attic Nights: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 20 
14. Hyginus: Astronomy: 1, 2, 3, 4; Fabulae 
15. Isidore: Book: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20; Goth; Opinion: 1, 2, 3, 
16. Macrobius: Saturnalia: 1, 2, 3, 4; 5; 6; 7; 
17. Ovid: Hercules; Metamorphasis: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15; Tristia: 1, 2, 3, 3, 5 
18. Virgil: Georgicon: 1, 2, 3, 4; Mopsus 


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At least some of the texts are horribly "translated".
For instance, I looked for 6 verses from Tristia I like and found this "translation":
 
These likewise, the begotten which with Graia are believed from the city, on behalf of the paternal habitation the Persian trouser covers.
They exercise the trades to the tongue to that associate:
Through the gesture the thing is to be signified to me.
The barbarian this I am, which I am understood not any, and dull ridicule the Latin words Getas;
 
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This is a site of ethnic greek religion followers that has a huge collection of hard to find texts.
I've found texts that i can't find anywhere else on the net. It is all in Greek but all you have to do is to click on a letter and related titles will appear. It has comedies, drama, poetry, philosophical texts, religious text etc all in original texts!

All the texts are not fully uploaded but work is in progress.

http://www.toxolyros.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=389&Itemid=848


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thanks Flipper super site.... there is also
http://www.ysee.gr


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A useful site I have used for reading Apollodorus (lost my copy of the library of mythology so used this site as an emergency) is:

www.theoi.com/Text/Apollodorus1.html
http://www.mythologyhellenic.com
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Clap kudos... This thread can give to a brainiac an orgasm.
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Hello people!
is anybody who know something about the secret library of vatican????



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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jul-2011 at 16:59
The secret library of the Vatican probably does not exist! But you must have credentials to access some parts of said library, and be able to ask the exactly correct questions to be able to acces it!

At least that is what I have ascertained.

But the title of this particular thread is;

"Ancient Greek/Roman Literature & Sources"

I would merely ask if any of you can produce the same? That is, without resorting to "anecdotal" sources!

Please see the definition of anecdotal here;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

Here is but one example of the works not really extant;

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/polycarp_fragments_00_intro.htm

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