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    Posted: 09-Oct-2004 at 11:12
I don't care, it's inaccurate like hell. There are far more states and empires than just 16! One must be either crazy or ignorant to claim something like that.
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  Quote TheDiplomat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Oct-2004 at 08:49
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Republic of Turkiye is the 16.state in the history founded by the  Turkish Nation.

No it's definitially not. I can count you a hundred Turkic states yet I still couldn't finish the list.

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  Quote ihsan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Oct-2004 at 06:06

Originally posted by TheDiplomat

Republic of Turkiye is the 16.state in the history founded by the  Turkish Nation.

No it's definitially not. I can count you a hundred Turkic states yet I still couldn't finish the list.

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England is generally agreed to have come into existence during the reign of Alfred, the Great (871-900 AD). While sections of the country were independantly ruled in his reign by Vikings and Celtics he was the first sole ruler of all the English. Previously there had been 4 English Kingdoms and four kings.

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  Quote Kubrat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Oct-2004 at 14:22
Danube Bulgaria as a state was formed in 681 AD, although there were multiple Bulgarian Haganates before that.  Anyways, it was formed in 681 after defeating Asparuh defeated a Byzantine army and Byzantium acknoledged Bulgaria's soverignity.  The goal of most of Bulgaria's rulers at that time was to secure Byzantine lands with Slavs living on them, unifying all the southern Slavs.  In 864, Knias Boris converts the country to Christianity.

In 1018, the Byzantinue ruler Basil II annexed a large Bulgarian state weakened by internal political conflict.  The independant Bulgarian church is assimilated into the Greek Orthox Chruch.

In 1185 Bulgaria reclaims its independance under the leadership of the brothers Asen and Peter.  The Bulgarian Church reemerges as independant also.  Meanwhile, the crusades are  crossing through the Balkans and Anatolia.  The Crusaders pillage and loot through Bulgarian and Byzantine and are chased out of Bulgaria in a decisive battle near Adrianople in 1205 AD.  Afterward, the Tatar invasion left Bulgaria in a weakened state, and with considerably less lands.  The weakened state fought with the Ottoman Turks for about 100 years, until on the 25th of September, 1396, the Turks crushed the Christian Bulgarians near Nicopolis.  The Bulgarians fall into a 500 year long opression by the Ottomans.

During the 1877-1878 Russo-Turkish war, the Bulgarians were freed and received autonomy.   In 1885, Eastern Rumelia was unified with Bulgaria to form a more complete Bulgarian state.

Following two World Wars on the losing side, Bulgaria suffered losses of lands.  With the Red Army in Bulgaria, a communist government was elected and ruled the country for about 45 years.

In 1991, peaceful democratic elections surprisingly put the Socialist/Communist party back in power, giving Bulgaria a dubious honor of being the only nation to reelect them.

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Denmark is considered the oldest monarchy worldwide with an unbroken line of Kings for more than 1000 years. The first "official" king was Gorm the Old (died 958), but as early as year 700, Angantyr ruled vast areas of todays Denmark.

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  Quote Evildoer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Sep-2004 at 17:37

Lol I severly mistyped those numbers. I knew it was 1867 (I remember using the "Expo 67" Centenial)....

Sorry for the severe mistake... Canada was found in 1867.

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  Quote Dawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Sep-2004 at 09:48
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Canada became a "Dominion" in 1987 when the Confederation took place, uniting all of the Provinces. A Canadian Parliament continued to direct the country's affairs with certain British interference until the earth 21st century.

Currently the Parliament officially needs the consent of the Governor General to pass bills but it is just formality. Queen is the official head of state, but I hope that changes...

Ummm I know we are young but not quite that young. I think you ment 1867 as the date of confederation. But you could be refering to the "Meech lake accord" which did take place in 1987.

 

Athough the present configeration wasn't till 1999 when the territory of Nunavut was added.  

 



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Now were talking about weird wars, in the 18th century there was the Kettle War. Austria wanted to reopen the Schelde river so the ships from Antwerp could reach the sea again. This created a 'war' in during which there was shot only once. A Dutch ship fired a cannonball at an Austrian ship. The cannonball hit the kettle on bord of an Austrian ship. Thereafter Austria abandoned their plan.
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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 16:38
Originally posted by MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli

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some King by the name of Willem *insert number here*

It's 'I' (one)

In 1839, Luxemburg went its seperate way, leaving only the Kingdom of the Netherlands behind.


Luxemburg declared independence in 1835. In 1839 large parts of Luxemburg were ceded to Belgium.
Technically Luxembourg was already independent in 1815. At the congress of Vienna was decided that the Netherlands and Luxembourg would form a personal union. The Grand Duke of Luxemburg was the King of the Netherlands until 1890, when king/grand duke William III died, leaving no male heir. Luxembourgic law didn't allow women to become grand duke, so a distant cousin of William III became grand duke.



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  Quote TheDiplomat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 14:54

In Wake of Turkish War of Independence(1919-1922),Republic of Turkiye founded in 1923.The Ottoman Empire became history.The Foreign Armies,which had occupied the lands of current Turkiye after the First World War,left Turkiye by saluting the Turkish Flag

Republic of Turkiye is the 16.state in the history founded by the  Turkish Nation.

 

 

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 04:38
Originally posted by Cywr

some King by the name of Willem *insert number here*

It's 'I' (one)

In 1839, Luxemburg went its seperate way, leaving only the Kingdom of the Netherlands behind.


Luxemburg declared independence in 1835. In 1839 large parts of Luxemburg were ceded to Belgium.
Technically Luxembourg was already independent in 1815. At the congress of Vienna was decided that the Netherlands and Luxembourg would form a personal union. The Grand Duke of Luxemburg was the King of the Netherlands until 1890, when king/grand duke William III died, leaving no male heir. Luxembourgic law didn't allow women to become grand duke, so a distant cousin of William III became grand duke.
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  Quote Quetzalcoatl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 20:28

 

 For countries like France and England it is hard to say where they began to become a nation. But roughly, although many historians might disagree I would say France was united as a country under Clovis in 496, considered by some as the first french (Frank) king. But formally I would say after the victory of Philip Augustus at Bouvine in the 13th century.

 I wonder If France was defeated in the Capetian wars and the 100 years war, what would have happened.

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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 19:38
You should, Black Adder is funnier and more clever than Mr. Bean IMHO. Though admitably much of it is bit corny and silly.
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  Quote Evildoer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 19:32
There are many copies of that video in my library - never watched it but I saw a lot of Mr. Beans's other videos.
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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 19:27
I am indeed Welsh, and no, i'm not from the Vatican, just felt like selecting it when i registered. Where am i from, Wales originaly, but i've lived in the Netherlands for much of my life, and am presently stuck in the ugly Urban sprawl that is the Greater London area.
The portrait is of Lord Blackadder (2nd series), a role played by Rowan Atkinson, the same actor who plays Mr. Bean.
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  Quote Evildoer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 19:17

Where are you from Cywr? Is it really Vatican or is it a joke?

The portrait is Mr.Bean I know... Your name sounds Welsh.

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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 18:50
1971?
Do you mean 1871?
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it's a bit difficult for Germany, but I would say 1971...
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