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    Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 20:53
warhead, you have to realize that theres a reason everyone alwyas argues with you, and you always end up insulting them....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 20:49
You can bring who ever in here, the fact doesn't change that Chinggis is not different from Hitler.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 19:03
stop that bullsh*t about Hitler and Germany, that's utter crap...or should we begin and invite our dear chairman Mao to our nation's-hero discussion?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 16:43

"Stop being paranoid. "

I'm not, you're imagining it, or just oo stupid to know what that is

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 16:43

"PRC I am talking about is you (I call you PRC because you are a bot)"

difficulty with English?

 "- and you stated that WWII was good for the world  "

 

Yes, on the long run, no one is sure.

 

"Who said that you said Hitler was a hero? I was responding to your writing just above and comparing it to the dictator's excuses. No Human Rights as long as we have food and shelter. Isn't that what you are saying?"

 

no thats what chono is saying about genghis and I gave an example of hitler to disprove his theory, obivously you can't read.

"Who said you said Terminator governor is good? I said your example of America as a politically concious nation is ridiculous. "

America is a politically concious nation, what substance are you on again?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 16:24

PRC I am talking about is you (I call you PRC because you are a bot) - and you stated that WWII was good for the world  

"good for you, but a commoner certainly wouldn't, you think a average mongol would even want to speak out policitcs? Even the majority of Americans don't. Human rights is secondary to prosperity and advancement this is common sense and the natural way that humans will do, some odd political skeptic like you might try to act different and talk about what you "like", but the truth is, you can claim what you want, but when you actually live there, you might very well think otherwise."

Who said that you said Hitler was a hero? I was responding to your writing just above and comparing it to the dictator's excuses. No Human Rights as long as we have food and shelter. Isn't that what you are saying?

Who said you said Terminator governor is good? I said your example of America as a politically concious nation is ridiculous.

Stop being paranoid.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 15:27

"Ok... kill 12 million in concentration camps and tens of millions on the battle field plus some that got smothered in city ruins so that you can be employed. A nice look into PRC efficiency. "

 

Are you so stupid, you don't know the difference between Nazi Germany and PRC? Nazi Germany is in Germany as Germany implies, PRC is in China as the C in PRC implies.

 

"Ok... so its all good even if Hitler is in power as long as you have food. You know you have just repeated the traditional dictator's excuse for torture and repression - "improving the general lot of our glorious people." Mussolini, Franco, Hitler all rose to power under this banner. "

 

Yes, and that was my point about genghis khan. I didn't defend hitler if you're such an idiot and couldn't tell, I'm critisizing Genghis as not a hero.

 

"A nation with a Terminator governor and a president who can't even speak straight is your example of a politically-concious nation? Maybe a little more than China.... "

 

Its obvious to me you're an idiot and have problem readin, I never said Terminator governor is good, Chono is the one that does, you obviously can't tell what sarcasm is can you?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 15:22

Ok... kill 12 million in concentration camps and tens of millions on the battle field plus some that got smothered in city ruins so that you can be employed. A nice look into PRC efficiency.

Ok... so its all good even if Hitler is in power as long as you have food. You know you have just repeated the traditional dictator's excuse for torture and repression - "improving the general lot of our glorious people." Mussolini, Franco, Hitler all rose to power under this banner.

Human rights is no long politics when you are beaten to pulp...  



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"So you consider advancement of biological/chemical warfare, better tanks and an upgrad of human-killing methods very progressive? And what did the increase of borders result in? Decrease of borders plus a divided nation."

 

Yes, its still progress in term of military weapons, and mind you world war 2 did in the long run end the great depression.

 

 

"So you do not even consider that Germany was bombed to pieces, occupied, divided, persectued under USSR puppets because of Hitler... Was it any better than depression the post-war era. Definately not. Did Hitler make Germany the way it is today? I don't think so. It was the marschal plan and a row of good Chansellors."

 

No, in fact thanks to the fact that Germany is bombed to pieces, the U.S. was able to give it aid and it became as rich as it is today, another unintended benefit by Hitler.

 

 

"You know China is a human rights slum. I would definately prefer a nomadic slum. "

 

good for you, but a commoner certainly wouldn't, you think a average mongol would even want to speak out policitcs? Even the majority of Americans don't. Human rights is secondary to prosperity and advancement this is common sense and the natural way that humans will do, some odd political skeptic like you might try to act different and talk about what you "like", but the truth is, you can claim what you want, but when you actually live there, you might very well think otherwise.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 14:57

So you consider advancement of biological/chemical warfare, better tanks and an upgrad of human-killing methods very progressive? And what did the increase of borders result in? Decrease of borders plus a divided nation.

So you do not even consider that Germany was bombed to pieces, occupied, divided, persectued under USSR puppets because of Hitler... Was it any better than depression the post-war era. Definately not. Did Hitler make Germany the way it is today? I don't think so. It was the marschal plan and a row of good Chansellors.

You know China is a human rights slum. I would definately prefer a nomadic slum.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 10:04

"Your argument about depression is so stupid that you can't even imagine."

 

I can imagine it fine, whats so stupid about it? Nazis did get Germany out of their depression and expanded their border. You are not able to back up your nonsense just like all the other times.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 10:03

So applying your foul logic, if the Nazis won, they are heros? You're one of the sickest moron I've ever met.

 

"Let others care about their business."

 

They can care about whatever they want.

 

 

"CK on the other hand made a nation out of us. We all got some portion of his blood in us. Of course, if he failed, he would've been forgotten and no one would've cared. He didn't, so he's the man"

 

Right so thats why Germany is one of the richest and advanced nation on earth, while mongolia is still a semi nomadic slum.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 08:44

Let others care about their business. Nazis had stupids targets set, and they failed in every way. Today, germans only inherited shame from them. Your argument about depression is so stupid that you can't even imagine.

CK on the other hand made a nation out of us. We all got some portion of his blood in us. Of course, if he failed, he would've been forgotten and no one would've cared. He didn't, so he's the man.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 00:34

"EUropeans have the strangest vews of Chinggis Khan, his good effect far outweiged his bad effect, he really is the creator of the modern world."

 

Second its quite sick of you to think that unintended good effect will make up fot slaughtered. Why don't you praise stalin too? But wait many people do, so why the hell are everyone bitching about him and praise Chinggis? And what makes you so sure that the world would be worse had it not been the mongols? Are you psycic and could tell alternative history?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 00:28

"We don't care,"

Others do

" doesn't look like nazi doings benefitted germans, but you're the smart a-ss."

 

you don't think how hitler got germany out of the deperssion as not benefiting it?

And how exactly did genghis benefit his people? By expanding? if so the nazis did that too.

 

"But they didnt have any, anf unless you can prove they did you have a very dumb argument."

 

Bullsh*t, did you actually naively think that these two empires didn't contribute anything to mankind? Many japanese scientific warfare and designs are learned by Americans after the war. The Nazis also expanded for the Germans and their tank designs did help out the Americans. don't claim something as brazen as "didn't have any".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 22:29

I don't think he is a hero. But I am not speaking for myself, if he is a hero, he is hero to the Mongols. Thus, Mongol Hero.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 17:07

Originally posted by warhead

Right so why not praise the Nazis and Imperial Japanese for their good effect.

 

But they didnt have any, anf unless you can prove they did you have a very dumb argument.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 16:01

We don't care, doesn't look like nazi doings benefitted germans, but you're the smart a-ss.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 15:43
Yes, and What the nazis did is for the good of Germany, anyone else is irreleveant to them, thus they are heros.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 15:28
His original intention and final achievement was the unification of all mongols into one state and nation. That makes him a hero to us. All the other imagined or real, intentioned or unintentioned doings are irrelevant to us, as those were a byproduct, so to speak, of those processes that mattered.
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