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    Posted: 20-Sep-2005 at 07:39
hi,

did you know that there are many turkish words which for example the bosnians and albanians even the croats use?

for example:

coban= shepherd
corba=tzorba=soup
pamuk=cotton etc.


or Allahaismarladik in bosnian too right?
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BTW: Coban, Corba, Pamuk, all of these words are from persian language.
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coban= shepherd
corba=tzorba=soup
pamuk=cotton etc.

Persian origins:

Chupan (Pahlavi Shupan) = Shup(Sheep) + Pan(Keeper) = Shepherd
Shurba (Pahlavi Ashupa) = Ashu(Food, Eat) + Apa(Water) = Soup
Pambak (Pahlavi Pashmak) = Pashm(Wool) + -ak(Small) = Cotton
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From polish language:

atas (tur. atlas)

bachmat  (tur. bachn-at)

bakalie ( tur. bakkaliye)

baraban ( tur. daraban)

bazar (tur. bāzār)

buczuk (tur. bunczuk)

chawa (tur. halva)

cimy (tur. czizme)

dzirt (tur. dirīd)

filianka (tur. findan)

kary (tur. kara )

kopak (tur. kalpak)

koncerz ( tur. hanczer)

minaret (tur. mināre)

rumak ( tur. aramak)

sagan (tur. sağān)

szaszyk (tur. sziszlik)

uan (tur.-tatar. oğlan )

ogier (tur. aygyr)
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It seems all oriental words in the Polish language are considered as Turkish!!!
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  Most probably reason is they get this  words from Turks. They dont know where turks get this words.

 
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Food is an obvious guess.
Burek, Raki etc.
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Originally posted by Bakma

hi,

did you know that there are many turkish words which for example the bosnians and albanians even the croats use?

for example:

coban= shepherd
corba=tzorba=soup
pamuk=cotton etc.


or Allahaismarladik in bosnian too right?


it seems to be you don't know Turkish
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Romanian is not exactly a Slavic language, but it has a lot of Slavic words. The Turkish heritage in Romanian is quite extensive. Aside from words similar to the words borrowed in Polish, and words referring to food, 2 words really stand out: bacshish and ubuc. Romanians are fond of referring to those 2 words as a cultural heritage.

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I've got a question; 'Borek' is a common food among Turkmens; in fact, I it's pronounced 'borok' to harmonize the wounds. So, what's Burek in Anatolian Turkish?

Sajaja bramani totari ta, raitata raitata, radu ridu raitata, rota.
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Originally posted by gok_toruk

I've got a question; 'Borek' is a common food among Turkmens; in fact, I it's pronounced 'borok' to harmonize the wounds. So, what's Burek in Anatolian Turkish?

brek>boerek
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Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri

coban= shepherd
corba=tzorba=soup
pamuk=cotton etc.

Persian origins:

Chupan (Pahlavi Shupan) = Shup(Sheep) + Pan(Keeper) = Shepherd
Shurba (Pahlavi Ashupa) = Ashu(Food, Eat) + Apa(Water) = Soup
Pambak (Pahlavi Pashmak) = Pashm(Wool) + -ak(Small) = Cotton

orba=?Ashurpa and Pamuk=?Pashmak....

these words dont look like their matchs.They have already been using in Turkish for more than thousand years.I think this is a chance event
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Warhero;

http://www.tdk.gov.tr/TDKSOZLUK/SOZBUL.ASP?kelime=pamuk

http://www.tdk.gov.tr/TDKSOZLUK/SOZBUL.ASP?KELIME=%E7orba&am p;GeriDon=0&EskiSoz=

http://www.tdk.gov.tr/TDKSOZLUK/SOZBUL.ASP?KELIME=%E7oban&am p;GeriDon=0&EskiSoz=

Have a nice day.

 
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Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri

coban= shepherd
corba=tzorba=soup
pamuk=cotton etc.

Persian origins:

Chupan (Pahlavi Shupan) = Shup(Sheep) + Pan(Keeper) = Shepherd
Shurba (Pahlavi Ashupa) = Ashu(Food, Eat) + Apa(Water) = Soup
Pambak (Pahlavi Pashmak) = Pashm(Wool) + -ak(Small) = Cotton

right, but the words who derrived to slavic lang. are Turkifed versions of persian words

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We (modern Macedonian language) have a word > muabet > which I believe is borrowed from Turkish.  For us, it means to socialize.
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Bosnian burek is the best still. lol.
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Originally posted by Kassander

We (modern Macedonian language) have a word > muabet > which I believe is borrowed from Turkish.  For us, it means to socialize.

muabet is maybe muhabbet in Turkish means talking or chit chat?

or mebbet?



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Originally posted by DayI

Originally posted by Kassander

We (modern Macedonian language) have a word > muabet > which I believe is borrowed from Turkish.  For us, it means to socialize.

muabet is maybe muhabbet in Turkish means talking or chit chat?

or mebbet?

That is probably it.  I also read somewhere that the name 'Balkans' is also a Turkish word meaning mountains.  Is this true?
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i dont know much about it sorry.
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Balkan is a Turkish word

Alp is Turkish as well
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