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    Posted: 17-Sep-2005 at 17:50

Why don't we have a Mongol: Total War?

After playing the Genghis Khan Series by Koei, I think the concept can be adopted by Creative Assembly and elaborated with good 3-D graphics.

I propose 3 different eras, just like Genghis Khan Series.

For the campaign mode:

The turns will be divided into Spring, Winter, Autumn, and Winter.  Each year is 4 turns.

1. Starting date 1189: Rise of Genghis Khan

Starting states:

Mongol clan of Genghis Khan, clan of Jamuka, clan of Wang Khan, Tartars, Naimans, Karakhitan Empire, Hsi Hsia Kingdom, Jin Empire, Southern Song Empire, Korean Kingdom, Japan, Girud Empire, Kwarasmian Shah Empire, Dominions of the Ayuubids, Sultanate of Rum, Byzantine Empire, Cumans, Bulgars, People of Novograd and Vladmir, Assassins, Almohads, Holy Roman Empire, Venetians, Hungarians, Poland, Danes, England, France, Castille, Papacy, etc

 

2. Starting date 1227: Expansion of Mongol Empire

Starting states:

Mongol Empire at the death of Genghis Khan, Sultanate of Dehli, Jin Empire, Southern Song Empire, Korea, Japan, Nan Chao Kingdom, Assassins, Dominion of the Ayuubids, Sultanate of Rum, Latin Empire, Byzantine Empire, Russian Princes, Poland, Cumans, Venetians, Castille, England, France, Holy Roman Empire, Hungarians, Papacy, etc

 

3. Starting date 1271: Mongol Khanates at War

Starting states:

Yuan Dynasty, Japan, Burma, Vietnam, Sultanate of Delhi, Ogedei Khanate under Kaidu, Chagatai Khanate, IlKhanate, Golden Horde, Byzantine Empire, Mamluke Sultanate, Hungarians, Polish, Russian Princes, Holy Roman Empire, England, Scotland, France, Denmark, Castille, Papacy, etc

 

Expansion Pack: The Rise of Tamerlane

Starting date 1371

Starting states:

Timurd Empire, Sultanate of Delhi, Mongol Yuan in Mongolia, Ming Dynasty, Choson, Japan, Golden Horde, Russia, Mamluke Sultanate, Sultanate of the Ottomans, Byzantine Empire, Hungarians, Holy Roman Empire, France, England, Danes, Merenids, Hafisids, Venetians, Castille, Aragon, Serbians, Papacy, etc

 

Historical Campaigns:

1. Kwaramizian Campaign (1219-25)

2. European Campaign (1236-41)

3. Hulegu's Campaign (1256-60)



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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Sep-2005 at 17:57
Theres a mongol invasion patch for S:TW.
But yeah, this was part of my idea for a Eurasian Total war.
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  Quote baracuda Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Sep-2005 at 03:26
Maybe you want to replace the name 'Mongol' to either Mongol-Tatar', or 'Turco-Mongol Tribes', or 'Turkic Tribes' then the heading might be right.

We are thinking of doing such a theme either as a full mod for TotalWar or as a stand-alone game, in the wildturks group,( this is even though at the moment everybody is busy to an extent that we havent even upped the site yet) anyway if we do decide on it, it will be ready by this December.
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  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Sep-2005 at 05:32
The Khan: Total War is mostly about that.
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  Quote baracuda Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Sep-2005 at 09:47
The Khan: Total war is supposedly about 'so be Mongol Conquests' post 1200 A.D. but the mod team thats doing it seems to be 'historically challanged' since some of the people that get labeled as mongol are not mongol at all from any view, and they have mass time/period errors with these and some graphics also..

The Khanates that we were thinking are the turkic Ghaznavids, Seljuks, Khwarezm shahs, Volga Bulgaria, Khazars, Kara khanid khanate, Uigur state, Pechengs, Gokturks, and their enemies.. this corresponds to a period of about 586-1200 AD..

Why, well the two major games that the group is working on are the 'Seljuks', and the 'Turkic Tribes', we've already got and are modelling for these, have done quite a bit of picture, history research and have existing scenarios, so making a simple mod for RTS game such as TW or RTW would be easy..

(p.s. There is also a Byzantium Mod for TW which seems to be better than the Khan but they have similar problems I mentioned above and arent quite on the road yet..)



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  Quote Emperor Barbarossa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Sep-2005 at 19:26
There is a Khan Total War Mod for Rome Total War that I believe has been released or will be soon. As for Creative Assembly creating a Mongol Total War as good as suggested above, I doubt it. Creative Assembly seems to care little about historical accuracy.

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  Quote winx Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Oct-2013 at 12:15
i think this game will content more, from the time 1500 BC, begin  with the scene in north-west nomadic states in China in the Warring state. Then time will change to the 250 BC when the Xiongnu (Hun) defeat the Yuezhi in the northwest and Donghu in the northeast of China and also many small ethnic states in China before the period of Qin Dynasty. After that the next campaign is a war in from 2nd century to 7th century AD in China with Xianbei, Tiele, Dingling, Touba, Murong, Duan, Yuwen, Rouran, Western,Eastern and Northern Gokturk, Northern and Southern Xiongnu, Red Hun (kidarite) and White Hun(hephthalites), Uighur Khaganate, Yenisei Kighiz, Xiyu states (the part of Xiyu states should be made as a private mod name Silkroad Total war), Kara Khitan, Tuyuhun (East and West), Tibetan Empire, Khitan empire(liao dynasty, Post Liao Dynasty, Northern Liao Dynasty) , Jurchen of Jin Dynasty,Yuan Dynasty, Northern Yuan, Eastern Xia and Western Xia (tangut), Tai people (Nanchao Empire), nations in the 16 states and five barbarian tribes Period, Mongol Khagmag, Zubu, Kiyad( Borjin clan of Genghis Khan), Tatar, Merkit, Kerait, Naiman, Oirat people (Zunghar Khaganate), Chagatai Khaganate. The Expansion of this are Silkroad Total war, Steppe Total War ( include all the empires on Euro-Asia Grassland from 5th century AD to 19 th century AD such as: Kipchak, Cuman, Rus Khaganate, Pecheneg Khaganate, East And West Chagatai Khaganate.....)

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  Quote winx Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Dec-2013 at 09:52
I suggest we should creat mod for Rome Total war name Islamic Persian. it's will begin with the colapsion of Hulagu Horfe ( Ilkhanate). Many states are establish from the ash of Hulagu's Horde.: Muzaffarids, Kartid, Chobanid, Eretnid, Sabadar, Jalayirid, Injuids, Timurid, Qara Qoyunlu and Aq Qoyunlu of Turcoman, the Safavid, Hotaki Dynasty, Afsharid of Nadir Shah, Zand Dynasty, Durrani Empire from Afghanistan and the rise of Qajar dynasty
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  Quote winx Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Jan-2014 at 06:39
i think we should make the Total war mod name Genghisid Total war: the legend from the stepe. It's all about the Genghis Khan  and the first days of Mongol Khagante. the location is Siberia, Mogolia, Manchuria, Northern China, Xinjiang and Central Asia. It include many factions such as
-The Kiyad tribe ( the unique force is the Genghisid noble warrior): it 's the Genghis khan's original clan
-The Jadran clan (non-playable faction): it's belong to the 1st enemy of Genghis Khan, Jamukha. They sometimes ally with Genghis Khan's clan but sometimes they ally with his enemy. The dangerous point of this clan is that they can gather Genghis Khan's enemies under one flag, command them attack Genghis Khan. When the Kiyad tribe has a riot, Jadran tribe will attack it. this is the clan of Betray
-The Tatar (non-playble faction): the strongest and rich clan on the stepe and they was supported by the Jin Dynasty
-The Kerait of Wang Khan: strong, and they are alos the Christian believers
-The Merkit in Baikal area: savage and barbarian, they used to kidnap Borte
-the Taichiyud - they are part of Mongol Khamag but they betray the Kiyad. Genghis Khan was used to be their prisoner. They have no mercy in war. They are war-like but also poor
-The Onggirat : Clan of Genghis khan's Father-in-law. Richest , and they are also the agricultural tribe. They have a good trade with all the tribes on  the stepe
-The Naiman - tribe on Altai range
Factions in Manchuria:
After Liao (Khitan)
Dong Liao or Eastern Liao (Khitan)
Dong Xia or Eastern Xia (Jurchen may be)
Yilan Wowo Emperor of Khitan revolution
Jin dynasty
Water Tatar (Jurchen people who live in Manchu- the original land of Jin Dynasty, they are basiclly independent with the Jin)
Goryeo
Faction in the West
Xi Xia
Xi Liao ( Kara Khitan)
The Uighur tribe in Gaochang (Gaochang Uighur)
The Factions in Siberia Forest:
Oirat
Tuva
Buryat
Khori Tumed
Uriankhai
Tuva
Barkhujin

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