iran vs egypt

Originally posted by azimuth hah well the Egyptian did enter 3 wars directly after their independance even they weren't strong and weren't even as powerfull as Europe and Israel who is fully supported by Europe so you can say they fought Europe.

thats true, remember the whole world was supporting iraq, militarily and economically, but not iran, well thats probably the same thing.  I give you that though, but see i thought the arabs would stay on their lands and resist, that was my reason for posting that...

and if Isael could've kept Sina they would never gave it back to Egypt so giving it back was for the israeli benfit too.

for sure, the israelies basically need friendly regimes in the region.

and what Iranin did to palistinans? i dont see any iranias fighting with the palistinians, just talking bla bla bla. we Arabs admit that we didnt help and not helping the palistinains as we should but iranians are so happy and advertising that they are the reasons behind the palistinians resistance ! so tell me what iran did?

well ofcourse iranians arent fighting israelies, we give weapons, and money to the fighters. and besides the revolutionary gaurd in lebonon did fight the israelis with the help of their trained hizbollah.

with or without iran Palistinians will keep resisting the israeli occupation.

yes but not to this scale.

so after the US occupay the Iranian land soon you better convert your population to Zoroastarian and ally with Israel and do your occupation

what does that got to do with anything.

ok do that what are you waiting for ?

im sorry but we are civilized people, if we wanted to do that we would have done it along time ago. and besides, there is no honour in chemical warfare, that is just a last resort, if one's nation is on brinks of total destruction.

you think of yourself as a very strong nation while your people are illegaly imegrating to UAE and the gulf countries may be when you will do your dream we will imegrate to Iran illegally

yes some go illegally, but hey, that was iranian land before arabs illegally migrated there, so maybe its time to take it back.

and the Oil of Iraq is for the Iraqis nobody else. and Iraqis are not Iranians even the Shiea majority of Iraq are not even a majority Iranians they are Arabs. unless by Arabs you mean sunnies !

the oil of iraq is israel's and america's now, so cry me a river. and i dont understand the rest of the sentence.

and as i said you want to ally with israelis and wipe out arabs  go ahead.

you got me all wrong.

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yea sure its a conspiracy right? then why bother and creat Taliban and Alqaeda and then fighting them back again?

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the Fact is the US didnt take full control of Afganistan and Taliban still there hiding and Alqaeda is still Alive.

al-qada are nothing but flies, if you dont mind the analogy, so they are basically nothing.

thos are the facts. and Iran is next incase you dont know, i guess you are one of those who support a US attack against iran.

americans have no balls to invade, and no i dont support an invasion of iran. why would I???

lol if they speak Arabic as their first language then they are ARABS, their blood orgin is not that important since there are no such thing as pure blood of any race.

ohh please you are sounding like a pan-arab and a pan-turk.

so you are saying that there is no such thing as Arabian land or what?

i dont think you got what i was saying, i was saying that back then mesopotamia, egypt were not arab lands.

anyway this topic is about Egypt and iran, if you have more ultra Iranian Zoroastrian Nationalistic agenda to share with us plz dont do it here go do it in the Iranian section and be carefull not to breach the forum rules . good luck

what makes you think im a zoroastrian anyway?????????????

You mean educated Afghan and Iranian who adopted pan-iranian history. Now, those won't go to fight for sure, we are just talking in realistic terms. That is what is reflected on the ground.

Of course educated people are above little divisions, but again, we are talking about realism on the ground. Now just to correct you, under the Arab rule, sunnis and shias existed in Iran and Zoroastrains. To remind you, Iran didn't become predominently Shia except with the Safavid empire massacring and forcing Zoroastrains to convert. And yeah, Safavids were not Arab. Please go over the prejuidice that Arab are ultra religious. In fact, most Iranians are more religious than Arab, which is good by the way to a limit.

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And the reality of the situation is that religious extremists in Afghanistan and Iran hate each other while educated secular ones see beyond that superficial but very existent difference.

No, secular Iranians are not few, they just have no power.

OK, you are drawing to much from what I say.

I was refuting you saying they are few. I will explain.  The poor people in Iran are religious and have some sort of faith in the Mullahcracy, the affluent/middle class are more secular, but the problem is that a lot of them profit fromt eh regime and that they don't want change.

Third, Ahmadine nezhad (or ahmaghine nezhad as I like to call him) was hand picked by Khamene'i himself, it is not beyond reasonable possibility that the elections were rigged.  Infact, there were complaints (450 from Tehran polling stattions alone) of revolutionary guards blackmailing and otherwise pressuring people to vote for Ahmaghine nezhad.

Ahmagh = idiot, sounds arabic so you know.

bear in mind there were no international monitors at the elections because they were not allowed (I wonder why).  And the reports of pressuring came from an Iranian ministry.

they do have pilots to fly them !

Saudi Arabia's population is about 25 millions and only 7 millions are not nationals.

 

Ramin, we have enough pilots for sure and it is privilage here to be an Air Force Pilot. A lot of my friends tried to get in but admission is limited .

If still need more pilots, we can use our illegal immigrants and teach them the Kamakazi style . Just kidding.

Yeah Zagros, It sounded from Ahmagh, so that is why I concluded you meant stupid by using it

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Originally posted by ramin Originally posted by �ok ge� yeah, Alhamdulelah Israel attacked Saddam's Nuclear plant Tamuz. He is a psycho man and probably he would have used them to kill innocent people. Unfortunately he did: "With more than 100,000 Iranian victims (1) of Iraq's Chemical and Biological weapons during the eight-year war, Iran is the world's top afflicted country by Weapons of Mass Destruction, only after Japan." (Wikipedia)

Ramin, I know he used chemical and biological weapons. I was talking about Nuclear ones and Alhamdulelah Israel attacked them. Better have a week Iraqi state than an Iraq driven by a maniac psycho man

Hmmm, yeah. That is because Israel bumbed Tamuz Nuclear plant before it finished. Im talking theoritically. You know what i mean. If Saddam was left to develop the Nuclear power, would he hesitate using them? i dont think so.