Cumans

And all this time i was thinking that the Kun were the 3 Kazar tribes that joined Magyars and Arpad.Now i see my mistake,......i made an error i apologize.
They were (maybe) Turkish speaking,lol,hahaha, right where i started.
Can we call them Magyar?,no i dont think so.Were they Hungarian?,i beleve so.Lets answer the question of race.Are Turks yellow(ish)?If they are then the Kun may be Turk.
I do know a place near me that is supose to be a Kun settelmant.Its in Vojvodina(Serbia,north province,near a city kikinda,the wilage is now called Sajan....early as 13XX,i dont know,and then it was called Saj-han,so if someone wants to do reaserch ....Very beautiful,all Magyar vilage now but i guess that 700 years is a long time.
That reminds me of one more place in Serbia near Nis,on the south that is called Vladicin Han so maybe there is a similarity. That Han thing sounds oriental,lol.
Maybe now i was usefull?!?

Why they converted?
this is my opinion and it considers religion-Religion isnt the most inportant thing in an individuals life.I beleve that is is more a trend then a constant thing.Why did anyone acept some other religion?
You have to ask yourself would you change your religion for some reasons,then ask what are those reasons and you will see.
Religion could sometimes be explaned as mass histeria.
Look at Americans,they are a most individual sociey(do those two things go together-yes they do,read Hobs or Lock-both explane it) and they(Americans) are most persuasiv to these mass histerias.That is why they have a lot of all kinds of churches,sekts and other...
Dont forget that just a few decades ago(1950-1970) religion didnt play a mayor part in a life of one people or even in the whole civilization.Then there was only proleter(worker-USSR) and on the other side the capitalist or/and citizen(USA) so that says that not religion but ideology is inportant(more inportant) in one state or society or one nation.
To shorten my thread-I know that i would change my religion for a number of reasons,i  muself question the position of religion a lot.I speak for myself and i think i would change my religion and become a Muslim or Jew or Budist just out of curiosity(hehe).God likes that,and loves curious people.(Oh man i cant beleve it-im a monotheist,i will have to think about that fast-bye bye)
The alphabet i dont know but it looks almost like hungarian,the �,�

botson igye tengeria,amen- from what little i know hungarian i would say that this last thing means forgive.Bocsanat-forgiveness-bocs�nat(hun.)
You will have to ask Hungarians that speak better hungarian then me to translate.
I hope to have been of some asistance altho i didnt write facts,but my opinion.

Originally posted by Feramez Originally posted by Raider The so-called Cuman paternoster: Bezen attamaz kenze kikte szen l�szen szen adon d�s�n szen k�kl�n nitziengen gerde ali kikte bezen akomezne oknemezne bergezge pitb�t�r k�ng�n ill bezen menemezne neszen bezde jermez berge utrogergene illme bezne algyamanna kutkor bezne algyamanna szen b�rs�n boka csalli batson igye tengria. �men. This text is in the Cuman language?

It surely is at least i can understand tengri

But i wonder in which alphabet it is written in and were they converted to christianity(mentioning of amen?)?

Edited by Seljuk

How do you spell 'Cuman' in Turkish?

Yea it does look more like a Slavic language.  Can someone tell me who the Cuman were?  Which Turk group were they?  Which branch they belonged to?  Thanks.

Originally posted by Raider Originally posted by Feramez Originally posted by Raider The so-called Cuman paternoster: Bezen attamaz kenze kikte szen l�szen szen adon d�s�n szen k�kl�n nitziengen gerde ali kikte bezen akomezne oknemezne bergezge pitb�t�r k�ng�n ill bezen menemezne neszen bezde jermez berge utrogergene illme bezne algyamanna kutkor bezne algyamanna szen b�rs�n boka csalli batson igye tengria. �men. This text is in the Cuman language? Yes, it is generally considered a Cuman translation of the protestant Lord's prayer. Although its exact origin is unknown.

Be honest ,I barely understand its meaning,is this close to modern Hungarian language?

Originally posted by Raider The so-called Cuman paternoster: Bezen attamaz kenze kikte szen l�szen szen adon d�s�n szen k�kl�n nitziengen gerde ali kikte bezen akomezne oknemezne bergezge pitb�t�r k�ng�n ill bezen menemezne neszen bezde jermez berge utrogergene illme bezne algyamanna kutkor bezne algyamanna szen b�rs�n boka csalli batson igye tengria. �men.

This text is in the Cuman language?

I'm Kipchak/Cuman.

I'm warrior.

 

Kumans or Kun as known in Magyar(Hungarian) language, are one of the tribes that joined the Hungarian kingdom.They were speaking a language "similar" to Turkish-the reaserch sais. I dont think we can say anythink for certain about anything, guess what , there were no fono records of these people speaking. Oh and one more thing,these informations are not verificable cause this IS the internet.We can talk about it but thats about it.

Could you please support your statements with any proofs (links, exact citations, refs, etc.)?

Edited by Akskl