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Kalevipoeg
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Topic: Geg clans of Albania! Posted: 05-Aug-2005 at 17:11 |
Umm... who are they precisely? A clan group separated from others by their linguistical variety or..? I am in the dark here a little.
Information about their involment in politics would be good and welcome aswell.
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Perseas
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Posted: 05-Aug-2005 at 18:04 |
In brief, Ghegs are one of the two main lingual groups found in Albania. Ghegs are the northerners while tosks are the southerners. Some of the Gheg tribes have remained Roman Catholics while the rest of them turned to Islam mostly during 15th century.
From what i know about them, Gegh and Tosk are somewhat similar but certainly not perfectly intelligible. Geghs have a few dialects but today Geghs and Tosks communicate with eachother in Tosk since it's the official Albanian dialect. I have noticed many tosks refer to the Ghegish language as sth like "slang".
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Posted: 05-Aug-2005 at 20:22 |
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Geg language its certainly not slang... and the few tosks who refer to
it as slang say so because they are ignorant on the beauty of the
norther dialect. Father Gjergj Fishta a catholic priest wrote in geg
dialect and he is the best author and poet Albanian has ever had. I
speak both dialects since ive lived in both sides of
Albanian north and south and in my opinion geg is a richer dialect than
the tosk one. The official language is Tosk because the dicatotor Hoxha
despised some geg clans who absolutely hated and even sometimes fought
against the communists. He also liked Tosk because he was a Tosk
himslef from Gjirokastra. A lot of geg catholic priests and many other
people were thrown in jail because they disagreed with him.
Shkodra is the epicenter of the geg culture in Albania.
To my suprize politicians in the government today from Shkoder and
generally from the geg north are missing heavily in the Tirana .
Although the presidential election was won by Berisha and he is
supported mainly by the gegs so this might change. In the last 10 years
or so Shkodra has been the most neglected city of all Albania thanks to
the socialist government that just got booted.
Edited by vulkan02
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Nick1986
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Posted: 19-Jul-2012 at 19:13 |
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Could the Geg tribe be the biblical Gog, ancient enemies of the Israelites?
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It has been argued that 'Gheg' derives from the ancient Greek word 'gea' (earth). Some assumed that 'Ghegs' were the Giants of ancient Greek mythology, who appears widely in pre-Greek period. If this view is to be settled, then Greeks got their inspiration for 'Giants' based on the northern Illyrian tribes, who crept on the fringes of ancient Greece.
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It makes sense as Gog was a giant. A tall tribe of barbarians would have looked like giants to tribes of smaller stature
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Posted: 18-Aug-2012 at 07:31 |
Originally posted by Nick1986
It makes sense as Gog was a giant. A tall tribe of barbarians would have looked like giants to tribes of smaller stature
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An identification with Gog would rank Albanians with the Asiatic tribes, which does not reconcile with the truth. The unique culture along with other indigenous traits means plainly that Albanians are by and large descendants of a pre-Greek people, most likely Illyrians and Thracians. If we are to maintain the identification of Geg with 'Gog', then we must ascertain ourselves that Gog is not related with Asiatic Mongols (as some Biblical interpretations make them out). One is tempted to relate Gog with 'Gyges' of Lydia. I would not hesitate to accept that possibility, but we need more evidences to back it up. I cling to the hypothesis which ought to link Ghegs with 'gea' or 'giants', which imply their native character.
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