Author |
Share Topic Topic Search Topic Options
|
warhead
General
Joined: 04-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 760
|
Topic: About Goguri,no matter you believe or not~ Posted: 08-Sep-2004 at 14:33 |
I don't get your question. What jurisdiction isn't previously there? There is very much a jurisdiction and administration before Jin in the northern central plains and Jin's conquest didn't change that structure much.
|
|
MengTzu
General
Retired Moderator
Joined: 11-Aug-2004
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 957
|
Posted: 08-Sep-2004 at 15:54 |
Hey warhead,
Here's what I mean: on what ground does China justify its legitimacy over Taiwan? This same question isn't restricted over Taiwan (like I said, I'm not questioning particular cases but the general principle here.) I falsely assumed that you're applying the same principle to Koguryo because I didn't read what you wrote, but what remains true is that your principle of legitimacy is problematic.
Peace,
Michael
9-8-2004
|
|
warhead
General
Joined: 04-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 760
|
Posted: 08-Sep-2004 at 19:15 |
What does this thread have anything to do with Taiwan? For Taiwan go to the Taiwan thread, we already have one there and we don't want one that contaminate every thread we have.
|
|
Gubook Janggoon
Sultan
Retired Global Moderator
Joined: 08-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2187
|
Posted: 10-Sep-2004 at 19:38 |
Whoa...every Koguryo thread seems to degenerate at some point into a discussion on Taiwan...
|
|
Evildoer
Baron
Joined: 25-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 434
|
Posted: 13-Sep-2004 at 18:36 |
Because Maoist imperialists like to shout out their hunger for Taiwan... They just cannot restrain themselves.
|
|
Infini
Janissary
Joined: 25-Aug-2004
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 28
|
Posted: 13-Sep-2004 at 18:47 |
this issue about goguryo is stupid, they are blatantly distorting everything
|
hi
|
|
warhead
General
Joined: 04-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 760
|
Posted: 13-Sep-2004 at 20:39 |
"Because Maoist imperialists like to shout out their hunger for Taiwan... They just cannot restrain themselves. "
On the contrast, more like taiwanese separatists started all this, the maoists was already satisfied with the situation as before.
I would recommend all things regard political be moved to intellectual discussion, this thread is about history not politics, and its contaminating everything.
|
|
babyblue
Chieftain
Joined: 06-Aug-2004
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1174
|
Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 02:29 |
Originally posted by Evildoer
Because Maoist imperialists like to shout out their hunger for Taiwan... They just cannot restrain themselves. |
maoist imperialist? who are you calling maoist? i can almost assure u that most of the people here who favours Taiwan's unification are not maoists. watch what you say next time.
Edited by babyblue
|
|
|
Evildoer
Baron
Joined: 25-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 434
|
Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 22:17 |
Most are Chinese nationalists (the same ones who support so called "unification") support PRC gov which glorifies Mao and censors all things that can be called criticisms against him. I call that Maoist.
Edited by Evildoer
|
|
sephodwyrm
Consul
Joined: 19-Aug-2004
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 359
|
Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 01:45 |
Evildoer, I would also like to point out that there's 50% of the people that voted against the DPP in ROC, and that of the people that voted for DPP not all of them support independence.
Not to mention that those who are against Taiwanese Independence also include people who carries the ROC passport (like me) and have no other citizenship.
As for the issue on Goguryo, I think both countries (China and South Korea, and if possible include North Korea) be involved in a research alliance. If the discourse over history and academia can be dragged onto politics, it is a dark day for historiography.
|
"Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them"
"Not what goes into the mouth that defiles the Man, but what comes out of the mouth" Matthew 7:12, 15:11
|
|
Evildoer
Baron
Joined: 25-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 434
|
Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 06:46 |
DPP (Democratic People's Party?) and ROC (Taiwan?)?
|
|
babyblue
Chieftain
Joined: 06-Aug-2004
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1174
|
Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 08:13 |
Originally posted by Evildoer
DPP (Democratic People's Party?) and ROC (Taiwan?)? |
i'm from Canton, i support the unification of the Fatherland. I'm also a staunch anti-communist, and i hate Mao's guts. I support the KMT and the Republic of China.
Now am i a Maoist?
|
|
|
babyblue
Chieftain
Joined: 06-Aug-2004
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1174
|
Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 08:16 |
|
|
|
warhead
General
Joined: 04-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 760
|
Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 14:25 |
Obviously I would call evil Doer the typical "ignorant western propagandalist"
|
|
Evildoer
Baron
Joined: 25-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 434
|
Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 14:55 |
My name is not "evil Doer" it is Evildoer. By the way, I am neither "Western" nor "propagandist".
The "reunification" I was talking about was forcible takeover of Taiwan by China. Note that my original comment was targetting the "Maoists" who want to eat up Taiwan (thus putting it under dictatorship). Militaristically it is impossible for Taiwan to conquer PRC any times soon.
|
|
warhead
General
Joined: 04-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 760
|
Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 17:45 |
"My name is not "evil Doer" it is Evildoer. By the way, I am neither "Western" nor "propagandist"."
No, just a brainwashed capitalist.
"The "reunification" I was talking about was forcible takeover of Taiwan by China. Note that my original comment was targetting the "Maoists" who want to eat up Taiwan (thus putting it under dictatorship). Militaristically it is impossible for Taiwan to conquer PRC any times soon. "
If you are actual not as misinformed as you are on present day politics as you are in historical sujects, you would find that there is nothing the PRC say about reunification, all it want is the present day status, while its some in Taiwan that wants to change.
|
|
Evildoer
Baron
Joined: 25-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 434
|
Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 19:11 |
That was a true brainwashed communist cliche.
Uh... what about denying RC the right to be called Republic of China... that they have to call it Taipei! And what about threats to invade Taiwan because China "will not allow disorder" during its elections (when there were mass demonstrations against fraud in the elections)? You are funny.
Looking through the Chinese version of Soviet Pravda dosn't give you any knowledge of modern politics (the only truth in it are the dates!).
Edited by Evildoer
|
|
warhead
General
Joined: 04-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 760
|
Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 22:25 |
No just you're too brainwashed to understand.
"Uh... what about denying RC the right to be called Republic of China... that they have to call it Taipei! And what about threats to invade Taiwan because China "will not allow disorder" during its elections (when there were mass demonstrations against fraud in the elections)? You are funny. "
This is started because Taiwan started it, again china just want to remain its present status, why are you denying that?
|
|
Evildoer
Baron
Joined: 25-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 434
|
Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 22:56 |
So protesting agaist rigged elections in Taiwan is an act of agression to China... The Chinese government must be really weak hearted. So they must defend themselves against protesters and their harsh words toward another government! Mobilise the PLA!!!
I am a socialist not a capitalist!
|
|
warhead
General
Joined: 04-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 760
|
Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 23:09 |
yes indeed
|
|