Origins of the Afghans

Originally posted by Land of Aryan @Oslonor: How long did you live in Tehran?? Have you ever vist Iran???

I have viisted central asia. My wife is Persian and knows about Iran. Many of my posts are written by her. My arguments are very simple. If you visit Tehran and Baku and Herat and then somebody asks you how did Tehran look like? Was Tehran similar to Baku or Herat? You will say that Tehran was similar to Baku and not Herat. That is the difference between a culture of Caucasus and a culture from Central Asia. Baku is caucasus and Herat is central asian culture. I think everybody agrees with it. But other parts of Iran have a central asian culture such as Khorasan, Fars, Lorestan etc. If you live in Tehran and have the culture of Tehran then your culture is a turkish culture.


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Originally posted by prsn41ife this guys doesnt know what he is talking about. the culture of the caucuses and central asia is heavily influenced by iranian culture, not the other way around. oslonor is pretty crazy

This is a very general statement. You can not claim that the culture of Khorasan is the same as the culture of Azerbaijan.

Originally posted by oslonor Originally posted by prsn41ife this guys doesnt know what he is talking about. the culture of the caucuses and central asia is heavily influenced by iranian culture, not the other way around. oslonor is pretty crazy This is a very general statement. You can not claim that the culture of Khorasan is the same as the culture of Azerbaijan.

the culture of the republic of azerbaijan is now a mixture of iranian, russian and turkish.

the russians, in an attempt to balkanise iran, instilled these differences that we now see today.  azaris and iranians have always been close, the part taken by russia was made to think that we are different when historically, the azari people are just as iranian as me or zagros, or aryan.

botht the safavids and the qajars preserved and even enhanced iranian culture. they adopted all aspects of iranian culture.

infact they became so iranian that they called iran persia, and called themselves kings of persia.

oslonor, you dont know anything about iran, especially by saying that iran is a turkish islamic republic or that isfahan and the other cities have a turkish culture.

are you anti turk or something? thats what it seems like, it seems like you blame everything on turks.

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Originally posted by Afghanan Mohtaram Aghaeh Prsn4life, Oslonor and Gharanai, Thanks for your replies but please keep them in discussion about Origins of Afghans and not Pan-Iranism.  There is plenty of topics on Pan-Iranism elsewhere.

We are trying to make the distinction between Afghanistan and IRan. This would explain what is Afghan culture.

Originally posted by Afghanan Mohtaram Aghaeh Prsn4life, Oslonor and Gharanai, Thanks for your replies but please keep them in discussion about Origins of Afghans and not Pan-Iranism.  There is plenty of topics on Pan-Iranism elsewhere.

there is nothing about pan iranism in this thread.

and pan iranism is not only for iranians from iran, there are afghan pan iranists, tajik pan iranists, kurdish pan iranists, etc...

@ oslonor: i want you to tell me in what ways iran is not culturally attached to afghanistan.

Regarding the topic, afghans are just another iranic tribe, am i not correct?

sorry for my ignorance, but i would also like to know more about the origion of afghans.

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which type of iranian are you talking about? many different ethnicities make up iran.

 

answer my question, tell me in which ways they are different from the iranic peoples of central asia.

why cant you just tell me? maybe its because you are pulling this stuff out of your a$$?

they havent been to iran have the?

i want you to tell me how the culture of eastern iran differs with the culture of the rest of the iranic world.

enlighten me, i dont care if the other afghans agree with you or not, i just want to know for my own personally knowledge. i waiting....

oslonor, you are a pan iranist, its obvious.  let me tell you the same thing that i tell the pan turks. its a dillusional dream. pans are dangerous, you need to not think the way you do. we are any better than any other race, our cultures are just as mixed as other peoples cultures.

get your dreams of iranic empires out of your head, it will never happen in the modern world.  instead of your imperialistic dream for the iranic race, just try to make our countries better and more united, like the EU.

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