Something about Jian dao(Gando)

I particularly love the little white hands.  I must say all that simplified Chinese itched my eyes so much, I thank those little hands for scratching my eyes for me.

Well.  Isn't it nice for these nations to continuously create topics for us to talk about?

Do you think if there's some Indian palace in Pakistan and Pakistan claimed it is part of Pakistan there would be this much fire?

At least back in the Corean imperial court people dressed more Chinese than Chinese people did in Qing dynasty...

Oh yeah, China promotes equality for between different races?  You mean as long as they obey the orders from the Han Chinese dominated communist party right?  I sure didn't see much equality when the Tibetans and the Uyghurs were being massacred.  Wait, they are not being killed now?  Oh, yeah, they are obeying orders now...

You know what is the difference about American civil right and the Chinese civil right movement?

In America, people were denied being real Americans, and they had to fight to be part of America.  In China, these people don't want to be part of China, and they were force to be part of this "multi-racial China".

There is the fundamental difference in the methods, America's bottom up approach, and China's Top down approach to racial equality.  In all honesty, if China is a very free and prosperous country, as I am sure it can be, you don't need to force people to be part of China.  People will flock to China wanting to be apart of it.

It is exactly due to the fact that in China it isn't free and it isn't equal, that people don't want to be part of it.  And forcing them isn't helping the cause.

There's always hidden agenda's to an invasion.  It is almost never just about what's on the surface.  Chairman Mao himself said back during WW2 that Taiwan should be independent.  Why all the sudden changed to claim Taiwanese people have always been Chinese?  Why the need for all the "researches" to stress Taiwanese aboriginals came from China?

China invaded Tibet for the Uranium.  They invaded East-Turkistan for the test sites.  I sure know why they want Taiwan, for its position in the pacific, For an open door to be a pacific naval power.  The problem is can the Chinese people see it.  Can they see beyond the "historically inseparable, always part of China" propaganda?  Or are they going to be like the Germans and Japanese back in WW2, completely buy in the propaganda created just to fulfill a political agenda.

I see the word propaganda used a few times to describe the Kuguryo situation.  I don't think it is just yet.  If it is, I'll have to start thinking what is the purpose behind this propaganda.

Hey Hannibal,

    Confucianism and Taoism have a lot more in common than most people think.  The wisdom that Chuang Tzu criticize cannot truly be of the type of Meng Tzu's, since both emphacize acting according to one's nature.  That is not to say that they agree on everything, but I doubt Chuang Tzu would unequivocally criticize Meng Tzu.

Peace,

Michael

8-30-2004

Hey all,

    It appears that people (may be except Gubukjanggoon) failed to see my point.  My point isn't that China's rationale is correct or its possible expansionist motive laudable.  My point is simply that the debate cannot be solved by historical researches.  No amount of documents can prove the debate in either way, because it is ultimately a debate of interpretation, not of facts.  People also failed to see that the allusion to America doesn't make China look any better; America is another hypocritical nation that claimed to do what it essentially failed.  I went to the leftest of the leftist universities in America for crying out loud.  (Guess which one just for kicks =)  Hint: we beat both Stanford and USC last year and also won a bowl game.)

Peace,

Michael

8-30-2004

Hey Hansioux,

    I knew they were invaded many times, but for some reason I never thot of it that way.  Now that you put it that way, yeah, you guys have every right to be disgruntled.  (Same with the Koreans, I doubt that many countries can beat their score of number of times invaded over the centuries.)

    I think it was, in fact, me, who said that China wants to become America (so does that mean you were writing to me?)  That, too, is a criticism.  America is the self-proclaimed guardian of the world -- but frankly nobody enjoys its guardianship.  I won't lie to ya, I love being an American.  But you just gotta know how to critique your own country (hence my constant rage against America and China.  No complaint against Hong Kong, it has suffered enough.  Those complacent jerks, they -- or we -- used to laugh at the Mainlanders, see who is laughing now.)

    I actually have a quick question about Taiwan.  Are the majority of Taiwanese Han?  (Let's avoid calling them "Chinese" to avoid ambiguity.)

Peace,

Michael

8-30-2004

Hey Hansioux,

    "I sometimes wondered why the Hongkongese couldn't see this coming.  Why when Taiwan was struggling for it's democracy the HK press often laughed at the Taiwanese.  If Hongkongese had asked for freedom and self-determination back in the British control, it would make things much easier now."

    Hongkongese are a bunch of complacent punks.  They laughed at Shanghai for trying to industrialize (and now Shanghai is kicking everyone's ass and then some,) and they laughed at the people who tried to be democratic.  Hong Kong is a capitalist dream comes true -- everyone has the shortest term of goals possible.  It's all about immediate profits.  Political activism is considered stupid.  Guess what's happening now -- they are reduced to a bunch of whinny bitches.

    Can you summarize in short what you mean by the majority of Taiwanese not ethnically Han?  I thot most people in Taiwan are immigrants from Fujian over the course of centuries.

Peace,

Michael

8-30-2004

Hey Hansioux,

    Why is it, then, that Taiwanese sounds so similar to Fujianese?

Peace,

Michael

8-30-2004

Hey hansioux,

    Is your name an allusion to the American Sioux, btw?  (Except in this case, Han Sioux?)

    These are some interesting things you're dropping left and right here.  I still need a more accurate breakdown though.  How many people are actually aboriginal in Taiwan?

    Thanks in advance!

Peace,

Michael

8-30-2004

Hey Hansioux,

    Okay, I'm confused again.  There are 2 percent aborigines, and then there is a minority of people who came to Taiwan from China with the Kuo Min Tang during the 20th century.  What are the rest of the people, which makes up of the majority chuck of Taiwan population?

Peace,

Michael

8-30-2004