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    Posted: 06-Dec-2015 at 11:54
There is a new show on History Channel "Hunting Hitler". It's based on a search to prove or show that Hitler got away.

700 FBI documents show we were looking for him for years after the war.
The evidence they are finding in Argentina really makes you wonder.
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Dec-2015 at 14:47
Interesting.But i am also curious about His "preparation" as a special agent of German Security Service in National Socialist German Worker's party.What did happen during His presence in London on His "art studies"? When do they make a apology to the world: Sorry we make a mistake creating a monster for The Battle of Monsters!?!You said History channel Red?Ordinary one?
http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party


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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Dec-2015 at 21:41
126. Fuker been dead fer years. But it would be nice to find his remains...draw and quarter him and stick his skull on the Tower wall.
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Dec-2015 at 09:07
Catch the show on the History channel, the 3rd episode airs Tuesday Dec. 8th.
These are credible serious folks, one of the main persons is Bob Baer, was with the CIA for 30 years.

What they have found is evidence he made it to Templehoff airport and flew to Spain. From there he went to Argentina by U boat.


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  Quote J.A.W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Dec-2015 at 17:03
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

126. Fuker been dead fer years. But it would be nice to find his remains...draw and quarter him and stick his skull on the Tower wall.


126 y/o? Dr Mengele would be up to the task of of keeping 'dolfo going, same as he does for Mr Burns..

I heard that Angela Merkel is in fact, 'dolfo's bio-daughter..

& that after the reunification of Germany 'dolfo was approached to take over again,
but he demanded the right to be an autocratic dictator, "& this time, no more Mr Nice Guy!"


The Brits, back in the C17th, did do similar indignities as C.V. suggests - to the remains
of Oliver Cromwell, an act of spite which did them no credit, IMO.. 
Compare that with Napoleon's tomb in Paris..

Many prominent war-leaders had stand-in doubles, but somehow I think Hitler would've chosen to
call it a day, & end it on his terms in `45, rather than live the life of a fugitive..

Now, as for what became of Hans Kammler & his Nazi science stuff, was he a 'deep cover' analogue of 
Werner von Braun - for the US military, post-war?


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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Dec-2015 at 18:05
Cromwell deserved it as does unkie 'dolfie.'

Comparing him with or to Napoleon's recognition by the French peoples; is an ooooooooold straw not worth my attention nor a future response.

As for Kammler? Take your pick on how to describe him or any other scientific professional to include von B...and the rest of the ilk in 'Paperclip'.

Had it been me and not a less well endowed man of testicular fortification.

I would have; and I'll paraphrase here: 'shot every one of those paper hanging sons of bitches'.

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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Dec-2015 at 18:19
ps. As for Angela Merkel....

In similar words, often used by my great, late Uncle John...(Juanito to his Mother)...who btw, was an outstanding Nazi hunter killer. During his tenure with the 3rd Armored division in the ETO, 7-44thru 9-45....

''That birch can kiss my mestizo ass.''
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  Quote J.A.W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Dec-2015 at 01:58
& the irony is.. the ex-pollo rancher, & SS-boss,  H.Himmler would approve of C.V.'s ruthless approach,
both to the living , & the earthly remains of the dead..

Whereas - the enlightened authors of the US Constitution surely knew better, & this wisdom has, thankfully - stood the test of time, notwithstanding the pressing issues of such matters as the civil war, unrestrained robber-baron capitalism, world war, the industrial-military complex & modern terror war..

As for Napoleon Bonaparte, back in his day, he was very much the Adolf Hitler of his time, with such overt parallels as both being upstart revolutionary ex-corporals, would be pan-European dictators, & mass-murdering totalitarian nationalist war-mongers.. & not so different from Oliver Cromwell,  'cept
- he died in charge as big-boss, as did Josef Stalin..
 
Albeit, Stalin got the 'dolly on display' post-mortem treatment..
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The list is endless as I can see.List of beasts&lunatics.
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Dec-2015 at 08:15
Originally posted by medenaywe


Interesting.But i am also curious about His "preparation" as a special agent of German Security Service in National Socialist German Worker's party.What did happen during His presence in London on His "art studies"? When do they make a apology to the world: Sorry we make a mistake creating a monster for The Battle of Monsters!?!You said History channel Red?Ordinary one?http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party


Yes, the Regular History Channel, not H2.
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Dec-2015 at 10:34
Finding the answer of my question we can solve :Who were the real screenplay writers of WW2?Period.
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This show is complete BS. Hitler's dentist was captured by the Americans after the war, two of his dental techs were captured by the Russians. Each independently reconstructed the details of the dental work in Hitler's mouth. Their reconstructions meshed completely. They matched with the details of the jaw fragments which were attributed to Hitler AND with X-rays of his skull taken by his doctor after the July 20th bomb plot. Bottom line, there is solid forensic proof that Hitler died in Berlin. For a detailed account of the forensic examination go to:

www.nl-aid.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Sognnaes.pdf
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Dec-2015 at 10:17
The first modern examination of the bones attributed to Hitler showed they were from a female in her early 30's.
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Lady Hitler was camuflaged as a man!I knew it.Pussy.
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Dec-2015 at 09:37
Originally posted by medenaywe

Lady Hitler was camuflaged as a man!I knew it.Pussy.




What they have discovered is that there isn't any credible forensic evidence.
Stalin was sure he escaped. For years people chalked it up to his paranoia.


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The book 'the 4th Reich' is interesting on this about some nazis like Bormann possibly getting away to Argentina / Sth America.

Its pretty certain that Hitler & some others died in the bunker. I think i remember pictures of remains of them that the Soviets found, in the book by Hilters Jewish spy [L...?]

There is a story that his staff didn't smoke because they knew he disliked/disapproved, and after he suicided all the smokers lit up their smokes.

Hitler wrote himself that a leader has to take ultimate responsibility if his leadership/ideas fail.
He also wouldn't have wanted to risk being captured by Soviets or west.

There is the story of Doenitz succeeding, Himmler asking him for a position. Matt Koehl claims to be the successor of Doenitz (& thus of Hilter) (as well as being successor of Lincoln Rockwell).

There was a book i think it was called the 2 Hitlers, that Hitler had a double who took his place sometimes.

Hitler would surely be pretty old by now. I have been searching for my real grandfather an Italian WW2 pow in Nottinghamshire, and he is probably dead since my real grandmother and commonly assumed grandfather are both dead. This regime has a 100 year rule of not releasing documents until after a 100 years when the people/contemproraries are almost certainly dead (compare the census, Jack the Ripper letter/s, last few popes in catholic encyclopedia list of popes, Geneva war archive, copyright, Churchill papers, etc).

Compare that Neanderthal man's remains was originally thought to be a medieval/modern mongoloid.

No doubt they probably did search after the war for Hitler for some years to be sure.

Alternatively it may just be another case of how they always have to keep re-running the old ww2 propaganda out to keep alternatives down/out for as long as possible.

I've just been re-reading some of Irvings 'Churchill's War' and it paints a not quite so bad picture of the NS regime and a not nice picture of Churchill. Some parts of Mein Kampf have some ok/good stuff. Though there is no doubt that NS had some negative/bad/not-good things. This modern western regime is just as bad if not worse in some/many ways, though it has some not-bad things. All humans have good and bad points.

In high school / college the teacher asked us to read the German and Soviet versions of the Katyin forest massacre. Afterwards he asked the class "who thinks the Germans did it" and everyone but me put up their hands. The he asked who thinks the Soviets did it and i was the only one to put up my hand (everyone looked around) (i genuinely thought the German version seemed more truthful than the Soviet version). Then the teacher said that Gorbachev had recently released info that the Soviets had done it. This shows how people need to try to be abit more objective/balanced/fair/open.


I suspect that this modern western regime may be doing genetic experiments. Like there may be a frankenstein superhuman geneticly engineered/cloned leader composed from various historical figures like Richard the 3rd, etc.

I heard that story about ["Hitler's French daughter/son"?] too a few years ago. Similar to claims that the German woman politician is Hitler's child? There was a book by Hitler's sister claiming that he was in England for a little while (is that the "London" "art study"?) It has a paragraph about Hitler's supposed comments about Cromwell & another historical person that i can't remember.

(When i was a child i used to let the Indians beat the Cowboys and the Germans beat the Aliies in my toy soldiers games, i guess because i like the alternatives/"badies"/underdogs versus the orthodox/rulung-class. My foster parents told me off for letting the Germans win.)

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p.s. there was also a theory that the nazi leaders escaped in a Vril or Haunebut craft to Antartica?



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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Dec-2015 at 01:56
Was a "Hitler" western anti comunism project similar with Osama bin Laden!?!In both cases nobody have said till today :Sorry we were wrong!Big smile

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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Dec-2015 at 10:48
You will have to see the show episode by episode to fully grasp what they have found.
I'll restate, most of their leads are coming from FBI documents. It's clear the Government thought he had escaped.
The docs. recently declassified, show the US was hunting him for years after.

Nothing that happened in the bunker is certain. The Soviets bungled the scene badly.
There wasn't any forensics done on scene. The remains were supposedly shipped to Moscow.
The witness interviews were accepted as fact. Stalin never accepted the idea Hitler killed himself, he had the KGB looking for Hitler up until Stalin died


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Originally posted by J.A.W.


Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

126. Fuker been dead fer years. But it would be nice to find his remains...draw and quarter him and stick his skull on the Tower wall.

126 y/o? Dr Mengele would be up to the task of of keeping 'dolfo going, same as he does for Mr Burns..
I heard that Angela Merkel is in fact, 'dolfo's bio-daughter..
& that after the reunification of Germany 'dolfo was approached to take over again,
but he demanded the right to be an autocratic dictator, "& this time, no more Mr Nice Guy!"
The Brits, back in the C17th, did do similar indignities as C.V. suggests - to the remains
of Oliver Cromwell, an act of spite which did them no credit, IMO.. 
Compare that with Napoleon's <span style="line-height: 1.4;">tomb in Paris..</span>
<span style="line-height: 1.4;"></span>
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">Many prominent war-leaders had stand-in doubles, but somehow I think Hitler would've chosen to</span>
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">call it a day, & end it on his terms in `45, rather than live the life of a fugitive..</span>
<span style="line-height: 1.4;"></span>
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">Now, as for what became of Hans Kammler & his Nazi science stuff, was he a 'deep cover' analogue of </span>
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">Werner von Braun - for the US military, post-war?</span>



Hans Kammler vanished along with the 2 prototypes of the "America Bomber".
There has been no sign of either Kammler, or the planes since 1945. If AH had any ideas about a 4th Reich, it's folks like Kammler that he would want.

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Update- Since last years show aired, nearly every major intelligence agency in the world has declassified files detailing a global search for AH.
Baer and his crew now have a computer db of 14,000 reports and docs.

He got away, the question is now, where did he end up.

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