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    Posted: 26-Jan-2015 at 01:46
today we found Apam Napat in Sumerian/Akkadian (though it seems familiar like i possibly may have seen it once before and forgot/lost it). (The two question marked ones are uncertain. The others are orthodox reckoned cognates.)

Pap-sim-nun-bada "mighty father, Adar, son of Enlil" (Sumer-Akkadian).
(X)akwo(:)m Nepo(:)t/*H2ekwom nepot/*h2epom nepot(s)/Apom nepots/(*)Neptonos "well, fiery liquid, guardian of sacred fire water" ((Proto-)Indo-European).
Apam Napat "grandchild of the waters, fresh water" (Indian & Iranian).
Aranzahas (Hittite)?
Neoptolemus "youth, son of Achilles, one of the heroes of the Trojan war" (Greek/Armenian)?
Neptune/Neptunus "irrigation, agricultural, watering, horse-racing, sea, the planet" (Italic).
Nethuns "fresh water, wells/springs, naked bearded figure" (Etruscan).
Nechta(i)n (Celtic).


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The last one is very certain. But we are not sure about these two, they may be wrong or may be right? The 2nd one (Latarak/Nataraja) is the more unsure one of the two.

Suhurmash "goat fish / capricorn" (Sumerian).
Jagannath/Jagganath/Juggernaut/Jaggernaut "Vishnu, obscure, hideous, enormous head, bulging eyes, monster, without/no legs, arms only stumps, half-finished freak, lord of the world, the moving world, siblings" (Indian).

La(-)tarak "whip(ping)?, Latarak & Lulal a pair, lion-genius?, protective against witchcraft, buried at doorways as magically protective deity" (Sumer-Akkadian).
Na(r)taraja "Shiva, lord of dance, moving power in the cosmos, ringed by fire, one foot on a black dwarf demon" (Indian).

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This might be wrong, but might not be?:

Asarluhi/Asalluha "Marduk, light of the gods, mighty prince, a shedu & lamassu of the gods and of the land, in mighty combat saved our dwelling, associated with Enki, magical knowledge, the river of ordeal, messenger/reporter, exorcism" (Sumer-Akkadian).
Ses(h)a(naga) "remainder, prodigious snake, great/world serpent lying in the primeval sea & encirlcing the world, endless, many/thousand headed, chief of the nagas, used as a couch to rest on between cycles of the universe, holding back the waters" (Indian).

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This one seems maybe familiar like either i or someone else may have seen/said it before. Since they are both birds surely someone did notice it before?

Lugaltuda "divine storm bird, Prometheus" (Sumer-Akkadian).
Garuda "divine bird, great sky bird, bird of life, bird-like human hybrid, half eagle, parrots beak, nests in wish fulfilling tree of life, sun/solar, devourer, adversary of nagas" (India).

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I'm abit unsure about this one whether right or wrong. Previously the Sumer/Akkad candidate for Surya i thought might be either (')Sawul/(')Savul "fire/sun" (Babylonian), or Ashur/Assur (Assyrian), but now i think Sulpae (&/or Sul) is maybe more likely. (Previously i thought Sulpae seemed similar to Surabhi, but they don't seem to match.)

Sulpae "radiance/brillant, youth(ful), the planet Jupiter, astral, in underworld, fertility, husband/consort of mother goddess, 3 children" (Sumerian)?
*Sawel/*seh2wol- ((Proto-)Indo-European).
Surya/S(o)uro "sun god, day maker, king of planets, cosmic order, driving a chariot across the sky" (Indian).
Sure (Iran), or Hvare.../Haverseta (Iran)?
Surias (Kassite).
S(o)ur (Armenian), or Shavarsh (Armenian)?
Suwaliyattas "connected with hebat, [war]" (Hittite)?
Helios (Greek).
Sol "sun, radiate image" (Roman).
Usil (Etruscan)?
Saule "sun" (Baltic).
Sol "sun, drives chariot across sky, maiden" (Norse/German).
Sucellos "good striker, cross, hammer, cup/dish, springs" (Celtic)?
Sul/Sulis/Sulla "eye, sun, hot/thermal waters/springs, knowledge, prophecy"?

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Ur-shanabi/Sursunabu "boatman, ferries daily across the waters of death which divide the garden of the sun from the paradise where Utnapishtim lives forever" (Sumerian/Akkadian).
Varuna "Poseidonian, water(s)/seas, coastal regions, trees, rides on a fish, sea monster, chariot, house of clay, coverer, winds, west(ern), shines at night, moon, night sky, heaven, seasons" (Indian/Dravidian).
Ouranos/Uranus "shining, heaven/sky, primordial, drawing near, spreading out in all directions" (Greek).
Vertumnus "seasons, gardens, orchards" (Italic)?



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Meslamtaea/Allam(taea)/'Sulim(taea)/Allamu/Almu "god of war, Nergal, underworld, who issues forth in might, an image" (Sumer/Akkad)?
Jalamdhara "declared war on the gods, extraordinary strength, gift of bringing dead back to life" (India) [s(h) & j interchange]?

p.s. Also see
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?163023-Genetics-Archaeology-amp-Linguistics-support-PIE-homeland-near-Proto-Uralic-homeland/page2
http://historum.com/blogs/rob+banks/30940-sumerian-origins-all-nations-myths.html



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I tried tio edit the post above but it said not have permission, so repost updated:

Lugaltuda "divine storm bird, Prometheus" (Sumer-Akkadian) [or Sukaletuda?]
Garuda/Garutman "divine bird, great sky bird, bird of life, bird-like human hybrid, half eagle, parrots beak, nests in wish fulfilling tree of life, sun/solar, devourer, adversary of nagas" (India)
Karshipta(r) "bird, preached religion in the [ark]" (Iran)
Ganymede "eagle, beautiful, cupbearer" (Greek)

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You only have a certain amount of time to edit Art usually a couple of hours... for your info...and ty for the update.
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  Quote Arthur-Robin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Mar-2016 at 09:13
I was wrong about Ereshkigal ~ Sarasvati?
The true match appears to be:

Eres(h)kigal/Ninkigal (Sumerian)
Prithivi (Indian)
Persephone (Greek)
Proserpina/Proserpine (Roman)

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AR slow down and breath....I cant help ya with your computer issues but only can hope ya can return soon. Your input has proven to be quite enjoyable and informative.

Remember what I've told ya before... paranoia is not healthy whether it's driven by genuine problems you might have no control over...or self induced.

This is friendly advice not a dictum. Do... as I have also said before..what ya must do... to be happy.

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Thank-you Cenrtix. I still have computer/net today so far. Sorry its just that it is and has been a really hell last few months since 24th Dec to now (and last year was also really bad year). (Some strange things have seemingly/possibly been happening to me since the virus attack, after the Roman discovery i published last year.) I just had to let people know just in case i suddenly loose the computer/net again. My not be just paranoia or selfinflicted that the Atlantis paper was gone from my hdds when i got it back from computer shop for example.

eresh-kigal
prithivi

sh/th , k/v , (+/- gal "great") ?

or

ereskigal
prithivi

sk/th , g/v , l/0 ??

The abductions of Ereshkigal and Persephone/Proserpina are related.

Pluto & Proserpina = Prithu & Prithivi?
Proserpina's name said to be relate to Pluto's.

I was embarrassingly wrong about some/many other posts in this thread/topic too. Varuna/Uranus may not be Ushanabi; possibly could be Gugalana??

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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Mar-2016 at 00:16
quite true...it might have been inadvertently lost or taken I don't know. But I would also report it back to the service and complain. Which is why a backup disc off the system is a necessary. I learned that the hard way when I was not in that habit.

And as an informative tool; I recommend you list some citations and sources...references..etc... on occasion that others might then follow up on this area of subject matter.

As you know AR... I'm a stickler for that sort of thing... as it, in the long run, as noted elsewhere...enhances the credibility and presentation of your work. It will also allow others the opportunity to further research on their own thru cross referencing. And for the novice it 'opens' the door.

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