The New World Order

May I ask if anyone has any views on the idea that 'the origins of what became a New World Order appeared on the border between pre-history and history as a response to the closure of the land-bridge between Alaska and Siberia due to rising sea levels at the end of the last ice age, as it caused Europe to become closer to the Americas than where the major settlements were in the east - and the Europeans DID recolonise the Americas as a result...' I have just published a piece of work on it (which I cannot advertise here, but, I can say its title includes the idea). Basically what happened is that it isolated the people in the Americas (which is why they remained in the Sone Age when the Europeans arrived) and, it also caused what is known as the 'Fall' of the Old World as the reaction on the Africa-Eurasian continent produced a series of new religious monarchies, which then themselves reacted with the East as it transformed, triggering off Alexander the Great's Empire.

Edited by Neil Pitts - 14-Mar-2014 at 12:01

This book is on how the situation originated in the ancient world, in terms of what happened to early world-society. That, is what happened to social systems, the structure of society, myths and Religion. It's a whole book about it, the only one I know of - in fact, the reason why I wrote it is because we DIDN'T have this information at University - now I'm wondering, what could students AND lecturers achieve with it now.

It sounds interesting, though the post wording is abit confusing to me.

My theory/thesis is: Atlantis was South America/Tiahuanaco. The Americas was once closer to Old World, the Atlantic was once upto say half the current width and then Atlantis "sunk" which was really a continental shift which widened the Atlantic to the current width. This contracted the known (old) world and isolated the new world until rediscovery by Columbus.

Humans have wanted to rule the world since the beginning of time.

There are various possible origins of "NW(E)O" (American, European, Asian).
The current world order seems to come from Britain (& France & Europe) prior to US.
Whether the new world order may partly originate from the Atlanteans, &/or from the Athenians [= Hercules? = Indo-Europeans?] is open to debate. (Alexander said his ancestors came from India.)
Nazis called theirs New Order.
USA founders were Masons. (New secular order. Out of many one.)
Some claim its ZOG/JOG.
(Others i not list.)

Every group considers themselves "new" versus the "old" (&/or "traditional" versus "new/modern").

I don't know enough about history to comment on the causes of the fall old world/new religous monarchies/East/Alex the Grt part.

Reply to 'sounds like a conspiracy theory'... I commented in the book that there are modern conspiracy theories which refer to a New World Order, but, these are generally just made up out of rumours and criticism of the way the world works now, owing to the way the situation has arisen... 

I think the idea of social class evolves over time, and people from different societies experience an evolution of ideas differently. For example, in India, the caste system placed priests above and warriors above merchants. In Europe, the titled monarchy has a class system within itself, while they then have 'Other' social classes who serve under them, priests and knights are two major ones. In today's classless society, the idea that we all have equality has largely arisen from the influence of global multiculturalism upon individual societies - and that is a good thing. What I am talking about in this New World Order theory, though, is the way in which the actual structure of the way the whole thing evolved had an influence on society - that is, the WAY it created different societies in different places ... So that we may look at particular instances of social evolution in the modern period. Putin now has his tanks on the border of the Ukraine, Europe and the world is in recession, the war on terror enters its umpteenth year - do people not see that we must somehow learn to discuss events in terms of the way they are actually occurring, and, only by studying what we may call a world order itself is moving forward that we may get on top of the situation? After WWII, people seem to have abandoned all idea of a world order, because of Hitler's 'New Order', however, the 'World Order' is just the way in which the world is moving forward at any one time. Now we are saying that we want to forget about it and that we don't know where it all comes from? Call that a victory?

Thanks, no, it's not a conspiracy, and I think it's important that it comes out about the way in which the structure of global society DID ACTUALLY form in the ancient world - because it's going to anyway now that enough stuff has been deciphered from ancient-world texts to see what happened 'back in the day...' I believe that modern conspiracy theories have arisen from the situation which has arisen from it, and are purely rumours which nobody needs to believe. However, it is important that this comes out in the right way, because we need an intelligent way of discussing the evolution of social structures today (at least in terms of talking about how the progression in global society is occurring - for anyone who wants to have an effect on it). People at large also need a proper explanation of how the world works in the 21st Century because of the way periods of world-history have created what we now call post-modernity... Because we can see how the problems of the world have been created by the way in which social structures have been created in the past, and, the problem needs to be fundamentally addressed at a very high level, by people with the ability to create real change in the way we look at our world before anyone is going to really feel any benefits, or the world is going to come out of recession.

Edited by Neil Pitts - 17-Mar-2014 at 10:11