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    Posted: 06-Feb-2014 at 02:36
We all know that, over the millennia, Europe has hosted the movement of many peoples by way of migration or invasion.
 
In some cases, the movements have irreversibly changed the culture of countries, in others, it was merely a blink in the eye of history, any changes quickly passing into history.
 
But how many mass movements have Europeans suffered over the centuries?
 
The below article from the Ancient History Encyclopaedia gives a brief insight.
 
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The Migration Period, also called the Barbarian Invasions or German: Völkerwanderung (wandering of the peoples), was a period of human migration that occurred roughly between AD 300 to 700 in Europe, marking the transition from Late Antiquity to the Early Middle Ages. These movements were catalyzed by profound changes within both the Roman Empire and the so-called 'barbarian frontier'. Migrating peoples during this period included the Huns, Goths, Vandals, Bulgars, Alans, Suebi, Frisians, and Franks, among other Germanic and Slavic tribes. The migration movement may be divided into two phases: The first phase, between AD 300 and 500, put Germanic peoples in control of most areas of the former Western Roman Empire. The first to formally enter Roman territory — as refugees from the Huns — were the Visigoths in 376. Tolerated by the Romans on condition that they defend the Danube frontier, they rebelled, eventually invading Italy and sacking Rome itself in 410, before settling in Iberia and founding a kingdom there that endured 300 years. They were followed into Roman territory by the Ostrogoths led by Theodoric the Great, who settled in Italy itself. In Gaul, the Franks, a fusion of western Germanic tribes whose leaders had been strongly aligned with Rome, entered Roman lands more gradually and peacefully during the 5th century, and were generally accepted as rulers by the Roman-Gaulish population. Fending off challenges from the Allemanni, Burgundians and Visigoths, the Frankish kingdom became the nucleus of the future states of France and Germany. Meanwhile, Roman Britain was more slowly invaded and settled by Angles and Saxons. The second phase, between AD 500 and 700, saw Slavic tribes settling in Central and Eastern Europe, particularly in eastern Magna Germania, and gradually making it predominantly Slavic. The Bulgars, a now-Slavicized people possibly of Turkic origin who had been present in far Eastern Europe since the 2nd century, conquered the eastern Balkan territory of the Byzantine Empire in the 7th century. The Lombards, a Germanic people, settled northern Italy in the region now known as Lombardy. Migrations of peoples, although not strictly part of the 'Migration Age', continued beyond AD 1000, marked by Viking, Magyar, Moorish, Turkic and Mongol invasions, and these also had significant effects, especially in Central and Eastern Europe.
 
Because of the above movements, imo, it would be virtually impossible for any European country to claim ethnic purity, there have been too many incomers not to have influenced the gene pool.
 
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Originally posted by toyomotor

Because of the above movements, imo, it would be virtually impossible for any European country to claim ethnic purity, there have been too many incomers not to have influenced the gene pool.
 
What's your opinion?


Half-agree

I agree that there is no Roman or Ottoman genes. Genetic division is older but it is real thing so

Most of European countries have mix population
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_European_populations

but in Y-Dna issue, some countries are more close to ethnic purity then the others
Rb1 in West Europe (Atlantic coast) and N in Finland are clear majority

I am giving same example all times. Not all conquest or immigration changes the population  much as in Anatolia



 


Edited by Ollios - 08-Feb-2014 at 23:12
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  Quote toyomotor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Feb-2014 at 18:54
Ollios: "but in Y-Dna issue, some countries are more close to ethnic purity then the others
Rb1 in West Europe (Atlantic coast) and N in Finland are clear majority."
 
Yes, I agree. I find the movements of various people through Europe to be interesting, along with the spread or influence of different countries.
 
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