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Fula
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Topic: Is Islam a Religion of Peace? Posted: 08-Jan-2014 at 12:24 |
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Mountain Man
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Posted: 08-Jan-2014 at 12:53 |
No. It's actions speak for themselves.
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toyomotor
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From what I've read in the Koran, I think it is. There is much more detail as to how we should live our lives peacefully than is contained in the Bible. The radical Islamists throughout the world have hijacked the true meaning of Islam for their own political purposes.
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red clay
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Posted: 09-Jan-2014 at 02:16 |
Certainly it is. Much like Christianity in the form of the Catholic Church in the 11th and 12th Cents.
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Cyrus Shahmiri
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Posted: 09-Jan-2014 at 04:47 |
Yes, as you see there has been always peace in the Islamic countries and Muslims condemn terrorism in non-Islamic countries. (!?)
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Ollios
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Posted: 09-Jan-2014 at 13:17 |
Edited by Ollios - 09-Jan-2014 at 13:18
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Ellerin Kabe'si var,
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Posted: 09-Jan-2014 at 19:16 |
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri
Yes, as you see there has been always peace in the Islamic countries and Muslims condemn terrorism in non-Islamic countries. (!?)
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The majority of Muslims, imho, condemn terrorism in Islamic countries. The relentless war by some Sh'ia versus some Sunni is translating to thousands of innocent lives lost. Is it any wonder the people are becoming migrants in ever increasing numbers annually?
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Cyrus Shahmiri
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Posted: 10-Jan-2014 at 03:56 |
The most important thing is tolerance of followers of other religions
and beliefs, unfortunately Islam never tolerates them and clearly orders
Muslims to fight against these people until they pay the
Jizya with willing
submission. And feel themselves subdued. (Quran: Al Taubah: 9 - 29)
Edited by Cyrus Shahmiri - 10-Jan-2014 at 08:01
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toyomotor
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Posted: 10-Jan-2014 at 04:36 |
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri
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The most important thing tolerance of followers of other religions
and beliefs, unfortunately Islam never tolerates them and clearly orders
Muslims to fight against these people until they pay the
Jizya with willing
submission. And feel themselves subdued. (Quran: Al Taubah: 9 - 29)
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That's not quite true. People of The Book, Jews, Christians and Muslims are considered brothers (or cousins) and are protected under the Quran.
"Historically, a dhimmi was a person who is protected under Islamic law by a pact contracted between non-Muslims and authorities from their Muslim government: this status was first made available to non-Muslims who were People of the Book (e.g. Jews and Christians), but was later extended to include Sikhs, Zoroastrians, Mandeans, Hindus[14] and Buddhists.[15][16] People of the Book living in non-Islamic nations were not considered dhimmis.
Chapter 29: "Dispute not with the People of the Book save in the fairer manner, except for those of them that do wrong; and say, 'We believe in what has been sent down to us, and what has been sent down to you; our God and your God is One, and to Him we have surrendered."
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Ollios
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Posted: 10-Jan-2014 at 10:51 |
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri
The most important thing is tolerance of followers of other religions
and beliefs, unfortunately Islam never tolerates them and clearly orders
Muslims to fight against these people until they pay the
Jizya with willing
submission. And feel themselves subdued. (Quran: Al Taubah: 9 - 29)
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Definetely, you are right about this verse. Quran includes some warlike things like that. but this is general problem about Quran and its writting time. It is argument issue. Has the Quran changed? or how much true does it write? Hiçbiriniz
Kur’an’ın tümünü aldım (elimde bulunduruyorum) demesin. Bilemez ki,
Kur’an’ın çoğu yok olup gitmiştir. ‘Ne kadar ortada varsa o kadarını
elimde tutuyorum’ desin yalnızca.None of you don't say that I had all Quran. You don't know that most of Quran destroied. You should say that I hold in my hands what left. (sorry about the translation, but meaning is similar like that) words belongs caliph Abdullah bin Umar(600s) from a book of Suruti (1445-1505)
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Ellerin Kabe'si var,
Benim Kabem İnsandır
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