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    Posted: 07-Aug-2013 at 22:05
Hi guys, read this recent article on south asian genetics:http:// blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2013/08/what-the-harappa-ancestry-project-has-resolved/#.UgL6bayK-AM
south asians are mostly inbred populations of two major components, south asian and west asian, this makes roughly up to 70-80% of their dna. The only difference is that south indians (Tamils) are more south asian and less west asian, while North West south asian groups like Punjabis are more west asian and less south asian.

Now here is the mystery, some northern indian groups like Haryana Jatts and UP Brahmins are showing anywhere from 12-20% of Northern European Ancestry. How is this possible? considering India is so far from Europe and generally indians do not resemble europeans. Does this confirm the aryan invasion or migration? or do you think it is probably because of Scythian invasion?






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As far as the Jatts are concerned there's an Alani connection.
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  Quote balochii Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Aug-2013 at 23:13
what surprises me though is that so far Indians are showing more northern euro ancestry then the Iranian peoples. Iranians for example have around 5-7% of this same component, Pashtuns/Kalash have around 11-13%. This doesn't make sense, because Iranians and Pashtuns/Kalash defiantly are overall more (Caucasian) looking then Indians. Jatts also just look like the big/taller version of northern Indians


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Somehow I can't open the article suggested in the OP. However recent genetic studies suggest that Most of the Indians carry two distinct lines of genetic pool known as Ancestral north Indian (ANI) and Ancestral south Indian (ASI). Now generally the proportion of ASI is higher in south Indians in comparision to north Indians and same is true for the ANI. (however this is just generalization and not the rule)  Besides ANI has also been found to be associated with the Europeans. However this intermixing of ANI and ASI has occured for almost 10000 years ago which predates the supposed time period of Aryan invasion theory for a long interval which is around 1500 BCE. So higher proportion of ANI in north Indians doesn't support the Aryan invasion theory, as the population has already been present in the subcontinent for atleast 10000 years.

Now  castes like UP brahmins and Punjabi Khatris do have much higher proportion of the R1a1 haplotype than the rest of the population (which is also seen in some  European population). but then again many south Indian tribes like Chenchus also have the higher proportion of R1a1!!! So R1a1 mutation doesn't go in favour of Aryan invasion theory either. 

Besides European population which carries the R1a1 mutation also carries M458 mutation which isn't seen in Indian population. And again this mutation is estimated to have occured around 8000 years ago. which again not only suggests that the two population  seperated a long time ago before the proposed date of Aryan invasion theory but it also suggests that original population cotaining R1A1 actuaaly migrated from Indian subcontinent to the Europe as  M458 mutation is seen only in the European population.
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