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    Posted: 07-Jul-2013 at 12:55

Brazilian fans kill, behead referee who killed player

SAO PAULO (AP) -- Police say enraged spectators invaded a football field, stoned the referee to death and quartered his body after he stabbed a player to death.

The Public Safety Department of the state of Maranhao says in a statement that it all started when referee Otavio da Silva expelled player Josenir Abreu from a game last weekend. The two got into a fist fight, then Silva took out a knife and stabbed Abreu, who died on his way to the hospital.

The statement issued this week says Abreu's friends and relatives immediately "rushed into the field, stoned the referee to death and quartered his body."

Local news media say the spectators also decapitated Silva and stuck his head on a stake in the middle of the field.

Police have arrested one suspect.

Well, I guess Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
 
 
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And that' boys and girls, is why soccer isn't as popular in America as elsewhere.

What kind of animals can do something like that?  And what response will the law enforcement authorities make?  I doubt they can identify the murderers.

Maybe what they should do is shut down all soccer matches in the area until the public identifies the killers and the lesson that soccer in only a game is driven home.

Frankly, I doubt the authorities will do anything at all.  After all...it's soccer.
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  Quote Shamshir Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Jul-2013 at 13:34
"Soccer" is beautiful. You shouldn't pass a negative judgement on the game based on atrocious actions committed by random maniacs. The same logic applies to all sports.
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Hey, tempers get hot, the home team loses, 2 guys have it out in the Plot, that's about the worst I've ever seen at any sporting event here in the US.  Usually, a pitcher hits a batter in game, the batter goes after the pitcher, both benches empty and there is a huge scrum, punches thrown, and that's about it.  The officials calm things down, eject a couple players, and the game continues. 
 
Stories like this however seem to be an expected side effect of Soccer, 3-4 incidents a year.  What is it?  Are most soccer fans "Random maniacs".  You see fatalities among fans reported every year.
 
 
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Originally posted by red clay

Stories like this however seem to be an expected side effect of Soccer, 3-4 incidents a year.  What is it?  Are most soccer fans "Random maniacs".  You see fatalities among fans reported every year.

Blaming the game itself just doesn't make any sense. The violent tendency of the fans must have had different reasons behind it.
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  Quote Mountain Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Jul-2013 at 12:42
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Blaming the game itself just doesn't make any sense. The violent tendency of the fans must have had different reasons behind it.


Can't see how...they only have one thing in common...soccer.
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  Quote TITAN_ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Jul-2013 at 05:50
Originally posted by red clay

Hey, tempers get hot, the home team loses, 2 guys have it out in the Plot, that's about the worst I've ever seen at any sporting event here in the US.  Usually, a pitcher hits a batter in game, the batter goes after the pitcher, both benches empty and there is a huge scrum, punches thrown, and that's about it.  The officials calm things down, eject a couple players, and the game continues. 
 
Stories like this however seem to be an expected side effect of Soccer, 3-4 incidents a year.  What is it?  Are most soccer fans "Random maniacs".  You see fatalities among fans reported every year.
 
 


Not really. Those incidents have absolutely nothing to do with soccer. It is no accident that such events occur only in certain countries. No one ever beheaded a referee in Europe for example... Dead
It is the culture of a particular country, not the game itself. Burning people alive or dismembering them during a soccer match, is unheard of, around here. Confused
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Has anyone ever heard the claxons ringing when a warship goes on alert besides me? Or when the hoops of the fog horns echo to give out a warning?

Up on the Llano we have a similar phenom...cept it's rather like the bells and whistles of an old time calliope. And it comes from the nearly mythical 'bullshit bird'.


And commonly referred to as the bullshit alert. One is ringing out now.

Soccer violence quaintly referenced as 'football hooliganism' is a ripe old Brit tradition. And European. Been one for long time. 'Football specials' carried more then just adoring fans. They carried the 'toughs' as well.

As for fatalities?

Yep them too. Ya see an obfuscatory effort to suggest a non existence thru linkage to beheading ie. a typical Islamist terrorist reaction wont cloud the fact that yes; fatalities due to violent behavior, in soccer, do occur in Europe and elsewhere.

Listen closely and ya can ever hear that legendary bullshit bird give outs it's cry. And while much of it may be connected with alcohol use and nationalism or both those; tied to racism and bigotry, politics and theology. To represent it as not significant is rather duplicitous.




http://soccerlens.com/football-violence-worst-football-riots/23093/


http://www.sirc.org/publik/football_violence.html


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/14/sports/soccer/14iht-SOCCER.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_hooliganism


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/footballviolence


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/26/egyptian-court-sentences-nearly-2-dozen-to-death-for-soccer-violence-27-die-in-subsequent-riots/


There's plenty more to include one recently here in the US.

So there's room to throw a red card just about anytime, anywhere, a match begins.


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  Quote Toltec Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Jul-2013 at 05:34
Originally posted by Mountain Man

And that' boys and girls, is why soccer isn't as popular in America as elsewhere.
 
I'd have thught this is the kind of thing that would make it more popular, surely cage fighting fans and survivalists all over the US are now thinking about buying tickets to Brazilain football matches.
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  Quote toyomotor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Feb-2014 at 00:41
Originally posted by red clay

Hey, tempers get hot, the home team loses, 2 guys have it out in the Plot, that's about the worst I've ever seen at any sporting event here in the US.  Usually, a pitcher hits a batter in game, the batter goes after the pitcher, both benches empty and there is a huge scrum, punches thrown, and that's about it.  The officials calm things down, eject a couple players, and the game continues. 
 
Stories like this however seem to be an expected side effect of Soccer, 3-4 incidents a year.  What is it?  Are most soccer fans "Random maniacs".  You see fatalities among fans reported every year.
 
 
My dear Chap, that sort of thing would never happen in Australia, it's just not cricket.
 
On the other hand, the ruffian games of Soccer, Australian Rules and Rugby sometimes descend into fisticuffs.
 
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Soccer is an often frustrating game, usually with few points  scored, & opportunities for scoring 
via manipulation of rules/penalties awarded by officials leading to angry expressions by players & fans.

It is a curious fact that the other football codes which offer much greater scoring opportunities, & full-on
violent body tackling produce far fewer 'gamesmanship' antics on field, & no generalised spectator violence..

Case in point being the Rugby World Cup tournament, currently being played out in Britain.
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