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    Posted: 26-Apr-2013 at 14:48
Originally posted by TITAN_

The word Hellene was not abandoned in the Byzantine period, because it means the one who speaks Greek. The Greek language was NEVER abandoned, over the last 4,000 years, so....

Rum is not the actual word the Byzantines called themselves. It was Romei=Roman citizens.

What about its meaning? 

1-Hellen: The girl who fell into Hellenpontus
2-Hellen: from Troy 

but it has to have a meaning like Helmet-Turk?

Ellerin Kabe'si var,
Benim Kabem İnsandır
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  Quote TITAN_ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Apr-2013 at 15:12
Originally posted by Ollios

Originally posted by TITAN_

The word Hellene was not abandoned in the Byzantine period, because it means the one who speaks Greek. The Greek language was NEVER abandoned, over the last 4,000 years, so....

Rum is not the actual word the Byzantines called themselves. It was Romei=Roman citizens.

What about its meaning? 

1-Hellen: The girl who fell into Hellenpontus
2-Hellen: from Troy 

but it has to have a meaning like Helmet-Turk?


Helen is utterly irrelevant to Hellenas. The etymology is unknown.... It is the name of an ancient tribe of Thessaly.
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“Ever to Excel“
From Homer's Iliad (8th century BC).
Motto of the University of St Andrews (founded 1410), the Edinburgh Academy (founded 1824) and others.
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  Quote Don Quixote Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Apr-2013 at 08:31
Originally posted by Ollios




[Ancient Time: The Oath of Carian Women (Sample of Hellenism in West Anatolia)
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">They never eat with their greek husbands who killed their ex Carian ones 

So, what is your point? People had killed each other since time immemorial, this is one of their favourite passtimes. What I meant was that to claim that forceful conversions were equal to free choosing of religion, is a mockery with the historical facts. It's like to say that the BG Turks were voluntarily choosing Bulgarian names during the late 70's, in the so called Vuzroditelen Process. This is different than the normal cultural assimilation, and it cannot be equalized with it.

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