What if Vienna were conquered?

 In other word the end of proper civilization and reign of tyranny.

 Guess what, with the fall of Vienna, French, German, british, italians and Spanish would have swarmed all over you Turks and killed you to the last.  

History , its learning , its analysis amd its comprhension , is a scientific process .

History , is based on facts . The Chaos theory of Math does not apply to history , it applies to fiction and fantasy books.

Noone is able to predict what would have happene if Alexander the Great lived to his 70's . Or , noone can say what would have been the shape of the world , if Alexander , instead of East , had turned West ( i remind u that at this time , Rome was emerging..)

U live in an appartment and the exit door is exactly at the centre of the distance from the bus station either u turn left or right . Everyday u take the right turn and u go for the bus ..... If one day , for no apparent reason u take the left turn , u may fall and break ur leg , and at the same tine , u may miss the chance to meet this blonde who might have been ur future wife...

Too many parameters , too many guesses ..... no positive and worth analysing result.

Same thing with the fall of Vienna....whatever speculation u may have , has equal value. If Vienna have fallen , today we might be ruled by extraterrestrials from Alfa Centauri....

Pointless discussion , from my point of view.

Isk.

One cannot fully appreciate history if one only knows what did happen, what didnt happen is just as important, sometimes even more so.

Yeahyeah  they never found his body even though he charged to his death(heroic man)

wonder if the'll ever find a secret chamber?

Sure....The phrase is correct and it makes sense....and it is applicable in one undeniably established fact : Vienna did not fall....

From this point u can examine what happen or not to the defenders and what happen or not to the attackers and decide which was more important.

But establishing a completely fictious hstorical point and trying from there to speculate on what might have happen or not to the defenders and to the attackers , leads nowhere , as the variables are too many to manipulate...

Good for a history novel , but not for a history research.

Isk.

It depends...

If it was the second siege I suppose that wouldnt have stopped the decline of the Empire.Maybe they would be able to cling on to their European territories for another century but not much else.

But if the first had succeeded (which was less likely to happen than the     second  one)then Suleyman might have sent the Austrian scientists back to Istanbul (Suleyman wasnt dumb or extremely religious he knew the value of scentists and science)They might have helped Ottoman science and might have prevented the decline.Politically  at that time  france was enjoying financial privileges in the Eastern Mediterrainean which was in Ottoman hands so I doubt they would have attacked.Britain was fighting spain, Italy had problems of its own and Russia was fighting the Tatar Khanates. So only the Holy Roman Empire,Austria and maybe Poland would try to attack the Turks who were quire strong at the time  I guess it wouldnt have been bad for us but I am not sure about Europe....