The Christian Saint series

In honor of Pope Francis I; newly elected today.

Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 13-Mar-2013 at 14:37

Several days ago was my birthday...so the coast is clear and no.... I seek no bullshit well wishes, feigned or other, of the day....to old fer that nonsense.....But I will tell ya that the Lady Saint Mary Magdalen and I, share a day. How old ya ask? None of yer frigging business. Honor the Lady not me. She will always be a better example of what to be then me.

Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 01-Aug-2012 at 16:23

Today is my Uncle's birthday. He is 81. He's an old shell back; a destroyer man of 12 years to include the Korean Conflict. For those of you who don't know destroyer men and their ships are the Cavalrymen of the Sea. Once upon a time he was as hard a drinking and cussing sailor man to ever hit a port. But that's not the point. His middle name is Phillip. His mother gave him that name in honor of the Apostle/Saint. That man...Saint Phillip was simply told to 'follow me'...and he did. No fuss.. no shouting.. no worries about car payments, house loan or a shitty economy. And an even shittier world to worry about. He listened and he followed.That's faith.  Happy B-day to my Uncle Hank.

Always burdened with the appellation of ' doubter '....but even every good Cavalryman always doubts... even when only a tiny bit..ask those of Murat's who charged at Eylau....Then like Thomas... draws forth saber and charges. Certain of... if not his cause.... his gawdamn glory.

St. Guthlake, Hermit, and Patron of the Abbey of Croyland

http://www.bartleby.com/210/4/113.html

 

 

http://saintsandblesseds.wordpress.com/2009/04/11/st-guthlac-of-crowland/

Thank you, Centrix

Saint Veronica Giuliani

She was born Ursula Giuliani at Mercatello, Italy, in 1660. When 18 months old, she spoke her first words to a shop keeper who was serving a false measure of oil, saying: "Do justice, God sees you." At the age of 3 she began to have divine communications, and showed great care to the poor, sharing her meals and clothes with them. She confessed herself that she would be quite irritable at people who didn't agree with her on her religious outlook, and would stamp her feet at the least provocation.
Ursula wanted to dedicate her life to Jesus, but her father wanted her to marry. She contracted a mysterious disease, and was only restored to health when he relented and gave his consent to her becoming a nun.
She joined the Poor Clares in Umbria, Italy, in 1677 and took the name Veronica. Reportedly, at her reception the bishop told the abbess: "I commend this new daughter to your special care, for she will one day be a great saint."
She worked in the kitchen, infirmary and sacristy, but despite a wish to be absolutely submissive to the will of her abbess and Saviour, she experienced many temptations to return to the outside world. In1678 she had a vision of the crucified Christ, and, in mystical union with him, ever after suffered acute physical pain in her heart.
In 1682 she became Mistress of the novices, and while she guided them with great prudence, she would never allow them to read mystical books.
In 1693 she had a vision of a chalice, symbolising the Divine Passion which was to be re-enacted within her. Only with great personal effort did she submit to it, and the following year the marks of the Crown of Thorns appeared on her head. On Good Friday 1697, the impression of Jesus' five wounds appeared on her hands, feet and side, and only on the order of the bishop would she submit to a medical examination. She prayed that God would make the stigmata invisible, so she would not have to be examined, but this miracle failed to occur.She also had a deformity on one of her fingers - a mark around her finger like a ring, with a pea sized pimple where a stone would be. Veronica claimed that this was a ring Christ had given her as a sign of their divine marriage.
She also went through times of lengthy fasting in response to divine visions. On one of these fasts she was spotted taking food from the kitchen. In response, her supporters claimed that the devil had taken on her form and it was he who had been seen, not the real Veronica.
In 1716, she was elected abbess. She died of a stroke caused by a brain hemorrhage on July 9, 1727.



After Veronica's death a figure of the Cross, the Crown of Thorns and a chalice were supposedly found impressed upon her heart. Her body is said to remain uncorrupted in a glass coffin, but the present body on display in the monastery of St.Veronica Giuliani in Città di Castello, Italy, is a wax image.



She was canonized by Pope Gregory XVI on May 26 1839.

http://www.santaveronicagiuliani.org/eng/index.html
http://breathingwithbothlungs.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/veronica-giuliani-woman-on-fire-for.html

Edited by Sidney - 06-May-2012 at 17:48

Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis If by way of origination in the ancient Catholic church...yes. If by way of the Orthodox and or Protestantism yes and no. That all depends on their respective schisms and seperations and the conventions preceding and subsequently followed in the determination of an individual's status in becoming or that which was required to become a saint. Much as their doctrinal dogma difference was developed.

So a saints personal religious history means nothing to the person venerating him/her. For the same saint, to a Catholic she is a Catholic, to a Protestant she is a Protestant, to an Easternn-Orthodox she is an Eastern-Orthodox. Absurd. But nothing new. Groups appropriate individuals to themselves, without any real concern about the individual's personal history or beliefs. Saints Sergius and Bacchus have recently been appropriated as two homosexual saints.


Edited by Sidney - 06-May-2012 at 17:15

Originally posted by Sidney Aren't all saints Catholic?

Some saints that were saintified before the separation of the Orthodox and Catholic churches are shared by both, but some are local; like most Irish saints are strictly Catholic - they have no feasts in the Orthodox calendar. In the case I specified because the said saint/s was/were strictly Catholic.


Edited by Don Quixote - 06-May-2012 at 16:33