The Red Jews

Originally posted by Ollios @Khazar, is there any connection between Khazar and Kirghiz? Kirghiz people are also known with red hair in history.

No relation that I know of.

Titan, I will admit that Turkic language might not be related to Indo-European language group. But the dominant majority of Turkic people were of European in origin, and even thought these groups moved arround between the area that is now Hungary, Bulgaria and surrounding areas all the way to Mongolia, the origins are of Caucasian/European descent. Some of those groups stayed in the Asian part and became Monopolized over time, the ones that moved back to Europe show only a small % of Asiatic features. The tribes of Turkic people who lived to the south of the Turkic speaking area mixed with Arabs. The Eastern tribes mixed with Asians. And the ones in Russian Easter Europe, Hungarians, Bulgars, Chuvash, Udmurt, Khazars, Tatars, Udmurt, and Finish are white looking. Tatar, do show more Asiatic features then the other groups mentioned, but not much.

Originally posted by Khazar Prince Originally posted by TITAN_ "Aryan, Indo-Aryan, Indo-european. same thing! We are Indp-european white people." No. Not the same thing. White doesn't mean anything at all. The Japanese are white too. That doesn't make them Indo-European. Skin colour is not everything, apparently. You really mix up different things.  The Jews and the Arabs are Semitic people, and their languages belong to that Semitic family of languages. The Turks have their own family of languages and the Indo-Europeans also have closely related languages.  The Turks invaded Eastern Europe only during the last millenium, making them the last non-European intruder. They brought a non-European culture and language with them. The Turkic languages are completely incompatible  to European languages. There is no connection between Turkish or Hebrew or Arabic to languages like Latin, Greek etc.  Everyone thinks that the turkic people came from China. Yes, Turkic people traveled to china and lived there, but they have wondered from south Sentral to Asia several times and way before that. you are forgetting that Bulgarians, Hungarians, Chivash, Udmurt, and even Finish people are of Turkic origin. YES... FINISH!! Just because some Turkic tribes settled in the Asian part of Russia and mixed with Asians doesn't make Turkic people non Indo-European.

Originally posted by TITAN_ No person on Earth can seriously claim that Hungarians, Bulgarians and Finish are actually Turks. Perhaps you think the Greeks are also Turks

Tatars had another name before they were called Tatars: Volga Bulgars

Hungarians were called Magyars and are mostly closely related to Khazars, Chuvash, and Bulgars.

Magyars, Udmurt, and Finish speak languages common to each other: Finno-Ugric

And Magyar language is in a small way similar to Turkic language:

http://www.kirj.ee/public/va_lu/l37-2-1.pdf

C.V,Volga is river!It is very disputed Grimm brothers history of Balkan nations&"Slavs"!Why do only Harry
Potter's people fly on brooms?!?

Edited by Ollios - 15-Apr-2013 at 06:53

Originally posted by TITAN_ Originally posted by Khazar Prince We are not Asians! Some Turkic tribes are Asians (predominantly, but with a heavy white genetic influence). TITAN MOST Turkic tribes are Asian people. Only the Turks of Western Turkey are really close to Europeans due to the Ottoman conquest of the Balkans.

Originally posted by Nick1986 Originally posted by TITAN_ Eurasiatic? That's way too broad to call it a family of languages. As a matter of fact, even the Indo-European family is just too broad! Indian and Persian are very distinct and more distant to European languages.  Yeah, if Eurasiatic was originally one language, how come I can't speak Chinese?