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Topic: What the mean of "Temujin" and "Ghengis Khan" Posted: 30-May-2011 at 03:25 |
I'm researching about Ghengis Khan. And I see there are many different explains for their name. Temujin: there are two explain, first is when Temujin defeat a Tartar Chief have name Temujin, he respect Temujin's brave and give that name to his son Second is Temujin's family have as least one person become a skill blacksmith with "temur" is mean iron or blacksmith. Which is right? Ghengis Khan: the original pronoun from Mongolian is Tenggis Khan with Khan is king and Tenggis is mean huge lake or ocean; the other is Chinggis Khan with Chinggis is brave, strong. Which is right? Can someone help me? Special from Mongolian and from Mongolian records
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Baal Melqart
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Posted: 30-May-2011 at 09:39 |
I thought Ghengis Khan meant 'Great king' or 'king of the world'.
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Posted: 30-May-2011 at 20:01 |
A great king is both brave and strong. He is also powerful like an ocean
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Posted: 09-Jul-2011 at 06:28 |
Temujin=Tumurchin (Blacksmith), Tatar Chief's name. Chinges=Tengis or Dalai (Ocean)
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Posted: 07-Oct-2011 at 07:23 |
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Posted: 23-Oct-2011 at 19:09 |
He's history
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Posted: 09-Aug-2012 at 22:16 |
Temujin doesn't mean tomorchin (blacksmith). Any professional name shouldn't given to King's family member. Temujin was a name of Tatar tribe's Leader who had lost in the battle against Chinggis khan's father Yesukhey and executed.
Edited by baydlag - 09-Aug-2012 at 22:17
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Posted: 14-Aug-2012 at 20:28 |
His name has no relationships with Dengiz(Dalay=lake/sea) or Temur(Iron). These interpretations are all erroneous.
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Posted: 18-Aug-2012 at 17:12 |
I agree with Paul Ratchnevsky's theory that Yesukei was probably a blacksmith and picked the name Temujin because iron was a holy substance to him. The proof of this is the fact that he also named two more of his children after iron (Temuge and Temulun).
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 at 14:12 |
there was brother of Attila whose name was Dengizih....
chingizhan the great prophet of wolves, God damn him! wolves are servants of devil
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Posted: 19-Aug-2012 at 19:25 |
Temujin may have used his name to boost his credibility, like American presidents who claimed to be born in a log cabin. As a blacksmith's son he would be a man of the people who reached the top through talent
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Posted: 01-Jan-2014 at 01:43 |
Originally posted by Panzercracker
I'm researching about Ghengis Khan. And I see there are many different explains for their name.Temujin: there are two explain, first is when Temujin defeat a Tartar Chief have name Temujin, he respect Temujin's brave and give that name to his son Second is Temujin's family have as least one person become a skill blacksmith with "temur" is mean iron or blacksmith. Which is right?Ghengis Khan: the original pronoun from Mongolian is Tenggis Khan with Khan is king and Tenggis is mean huge lake or ocean; the other is Chinggis Khan with Chinggis is brave, strong. Which is right?Can someone help me? Special from Mongolian and from Mongolian records |
Ghengis Khan was named Temujin at birth, but when he became "The Great Khan" of the Mongols he took the name Ghengis Khan, which, I think, means Great Khan. I don't know of any connection to blacksmiths, as he certainly wasn't one.
Edited by toyomotor - 01-Jan-2014 at 01:44
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