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Ranjithvnambiar, as your photo's and words shown above describe, it is indeed a fight in the element of the croc and not the shark! But, there also seems to be about a three or four to one weight ratio also existing in the croc's favor!

Make the water ten or 15 feet deep, and the size more comparable and their might well have been a differing outcome!

Please note that the shark as exposed upon the rocks seems to have suffered no skin damage!

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Salt water crocodiles are known to feed on Bull sharks of considerable size frequently.It doesnt matter to a saltwater crocodile whether the water is  10 or 15 feet deep.It is known to be a good swimmer and many cases of crocodiles crossing oceans (ie more than 1000miles) had been recorded and also some species of sharks are known to be on the menu of Salties.

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The sizes of the Great white sharks are often exagerrated to beyond 25 fts and more majority of the adult great whites ranges from 16ft to 20 fts.One great white caught in Taiwan in 1997 was 23ft long and weighed  2500kg
The average length of  a saltwater crocodile is also the same ie 16 to 20 fts. A saltwater crocodile exceeding 23fts(7meters) at Bhitarkanika wild life Sanctuary of Orissa state in India Bhitarkanika is attested by Guinnes.


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Both are apex predators of their own habitats and their habitats rarely overlaps.

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Sharks are known to have cartilageous bone a shark sleleton will look like this








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Crocodile are known to have a muscular built with hard bones inside.
Great whites definitely have a weight advantage over crocodiles ie saltwater croc:greatwhite shark will be3:5.
But bite strength of a Salt water croc is far higher than that of a Great white.While a great white tries to rip off whatever comes in its jaw ,a saltwater croc will crush whatever is caught between its jaws
A croc skeleton will look like this









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Some great white shark Pics








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Saltwater Crocodiles are known to prey upon sharks(Though medium & small) and many cases are recorded but sharks attacking and eating crocodiles are not recorded.

Crocodiles are very territotial and are good fighters also.Male crocodiles often have territorial wars resulting in ripping of limbs and other body parts.

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OK! We are now within my limits! Thanks for all of the great photos, and posts, etc.~!


But all we talk about are certain situations, where one of these great beasts shall live or die!

S0 suppose that an eighteen foot or a twenty two foot chroc is caught swimming close to the surface, when a 19 foot Great White Shark is caught below the Crocc, and it attacks!


What is the result of the encounter then?
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Originally posted by opuslola

OK! We are now within my limits! Thanks for all of the great photos, and posts, etc.~!


But all we talk about are certain situations, where one of these great beasts shall live or die!

S0 suppose that an eighteen foot or a twenty two foot chroc is caught swimming close to the surface, when a 19 foot Great White Shark is caught below the Crocc, and it attacks!


What is the result of the encounter then?

My understanding about Great white is that its a hunter which thoroughly recognises its prey.And its(big sharks) diet consists of marine mammals with high fat content especially seals and other sharks and large fishes,also it is known to scavange on whales.So a croc doesnt come in its menu.So attacking a croc from below for no purpose seems impossible, and sharks are not known to be territorial.And even though sharks and fishes comes in its menu , I dont think a croc will take the risk of  attacking a shark of its own size unless it is for territory,Crocs are protective of its territory but while crossing the sea it will be well aware that its not in its territory.

A situation in which both knows each others presence the results one cannot predict.Soch a fight will result in severe injuries on both sides
Crocs are known to survive large wounds and even loss of limbs during territorial wars.But a shark with large injuries are not known to have survived
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Bite strength of a Saltwater crocodile is 5000Pounds per square inch and that of a great white is 800 pounds per square inch.
I think the injuries that they can inflict on each other will depend on their bites on each other.
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A crocodile's Jaw is designed to crush and hold on to the mammal that it is preying upon.It normally ambushes water buffalloes,gaurs,and sambars then hold on to them and takes them to deep water and drowns it.Then it crushes the body parts and rip it off by its death roll and then swallows it.

Great white sharks normally hunts seals and other marine mammals and smaller sharks who have high fat content and less bony and it ambushes , bites the prey and immediately shakes its  head ripping of whatever bit and swallows it and swims away and since the prey is severely wounded and is bleeding,probably dead the shark will locate it again and preys on it. No crushing and holding on only biting and ripping off that too fast.

A crocodiles body compared to marine mammals is more muscular and is covered with thicker skin with scales.It can withstand deadly crushing  bites from other crocs during territorial fights and it survives even after losing limps and body parts.So if a shark bites a croc it may injure it but not kill it ie a croc which survives a 5000Psi bite of its own kind can easily survive a 800psi bite of a shark, but if a croc bites a shark things will be different.The cartilageous bones of the shark of whichever area croc is biting will get crushed and if the croc holds on to it,I dont think the shark will pull the croc which is 3/4th its(shark's) body weight along with it while swimming.

A 19/20 feet croc will have a jaw line which is more than 3 feets long, which will enable it to bite  and hold on to a substantially big part of the sharks body.If it bites a fleshy part it will rip off and will leave the shark severely injured.If it is a muscular or bone it will get crushed and will leave the shark handicapped and injured.
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