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Topic: Ancient Civ with best cavalry Posted: 05-Apr-2005 at 20:49 |
Vote here for the ancient civilization that had the best cavalry. Only civs from 300BC to 500AD.
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Cyrus Shahmiri
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 00:32 |
What about Persians?!
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 00:42 |
Han dynasty made cavalry which beat the hun cavalry so han
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 03:11 |
Parthians, the only people that could really, REALLY beat them was the Sassanids, who had a similair military.
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 04:26 |
Yes, Parthians, for there is no other who made war in the list except Macedonians, and their Companion Cav was weak enough.
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 07:25 |
What about the Xiong nu?
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 12:16 |
I don't think the huns count exactly, afterall they weren't around until the 400's or so, and that's not exactly ancient. What about the Hittites, they had a good 3 man chariot oging for them.
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 15:25 |
There is little argument needed. The armies of Murong Yan, Bei Wei, and Rouran are the most efficient. For the simple reason that they were among the first armies to use metal stirrups in mass. The Ephtalites defeated the Sassanians, and the Ephtalites were vassals of the Rouran, which in turn were defeated by the Wei under a series of campaigns. None of the other cavalry on the vote list come even close.
BTW, need I mention that the XianBei cavalry was superior to the Xiongnu, a straight quote taken out of Hou Han Shu:
"the Xianbei were able to acquire the developed iron weapons of the central plain so that their cavalry is faster and their weapons are sharper than those of the Xiongnu."
Even at this date, there was no full stirrups and the Yan army is the first army in history from archeological findings that deployed heavy double metal stirruped cavalry in mass with decisive results. Although the Han army of Liu Yuan(xiongnu Han) might very well have double stirrups already, its very clear from first hand documents that the later Zhao under the Shi family already had such cavalry.
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 18:47 |
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri
What about Persians?! |
Aren't Parthians related to Persians?
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Posted: 07-Apr-2005 at 02:12 |
Yes, both of them and Scythians are Iranian peoples.
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Posted: 07-Apr-2005 at 10:50 |
to me the best ancient cavalry
is the cartago cavalry
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Posted: 09-Apr-2005 at 20:36 |
Huns have my vote.
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Posted: 10-Apr-2005 at 17:24 |
I'm suprised that no one voted for the Scythians.
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Posted: 12-Apr-2005 at 00:11 |
Originally posted by RED GUARD
I'm suprised that no one voted for the Scythians. |
People tend to vote for whatever is closest to their own nationality.
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Posted: 13-Apr-2005 at 21:09 |
Out of those, the Huns would probably come first. But I've heard good things about the Numidians, too.. as well as the Thessalian cavalry.
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Posted: 14-Apr-2005 at 11:01 |
Originally posted by Idanthyrus
Originally posted by RED GUARD
I'm suprised that no one voted for the Scythians. |
People tend to vote for whatever is closest to their own nationality.
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