The most oppressed nation in the Middle East

I myself think Jews, they were probably the only nation in this region who had to leave their own land several times and still fight for it.

I am not sure, I would say Kurds but the Kurds did not truly be opressed until the Safavids started their terror, which was a few hundred years ago.  But Jews have been opressed much longer. 

Where are the Saudis.

Edited by balochii - 26-May-2010 at 18:43

All of them. There is no single "most oppressed" people in the world, that is a myth. Every ethnicity listed has suffered just as much as the others through the course of history. Heck, the people listed are the lucky ones, they've survived to this day, there are many ethnic groups that have been completely destroyed (why doesnt anyone think of the Native American tribes, if anything, they should get everyones vote for the most oppressed, they were wiped out in less than a couple hundred years).

But as it goes, those who market the suffering of their people the best seem to come out on top.


Edited by TheGreatSimba - 27-May-2010 at 11:43

Immortal Guard!like that

On what basis do you guys think the Jews are the most oppressed peoples?

So your only criteria for the Jews being the most oppressed people is that they managed to preserve their religion?

Then what about Zoroastrians? Havent they preserved their religion against all odds?

The fact of the matter is that there is no single most oppressed people, Jews have just been very successful in marketing their suffering for political purposes. Other than that, all ethnicities have been oppressed throughout the course of history, some have been completely wiped out!

I'd say that the most oppressed are the ones that didnt even make it to present times.

Originally posted by Emil_Diniyev And Azerbaijan are not opressed in your opinion? Or you didn't include because its not middle-east? Azerbaijan have been opressed by 100 years of Qajar and 200 years of Russian rule. Now millions of Azeris are under opression of Persians and a half million under Georgian regime. Our population have been driven out of "Armenia", Nagorno-Karabakh and 7 districts around it. Our lands have been given away. Derbent, Zengezur, Borchali, Tebriz, Ardebil...

Oppressed in which way, please do tell. And lets not put Iranian Azari's in the same category as Azeri's from the Republican of Azerbaijan. Also, dont forget that the tyrant terrorist mullah leader of Iran, KHAMENEI, is an Iranian Azari. So, by your logic, its the Azari's that are oppressing all Iranians?

Also, since I love pointing out the contradictions in your logic, wasnt Nagorno Karabakh's population majority Armenian? You say that Iran should give the Azari's independence (you implied this by lumping Iranian cities along with other cities in other countries which you claim are all Azeri cities, such as those in the R. of Azerbaijan), yet you deny the Armenian's in "your" land independence? How does that logic work?

When the Soviet Union collapsed, here were the demographics of Nagorno-Karabakh: Armenians (76.4%), 42,871 Azerbaijanis (22.4%). Today, the region is more than 95% Armenian (I realize that this is mostly due to the war and that many Azeri's fled), so how do you expect to kick all of these Armenians out? Just like the Israeli's in what is today former Palestinian land, it doesnt appear that they'll ever be going anywhere because they now dominate the region and have been living there for quite some time.

So please tell me how you rationalize this in your mind? How you can call for the "liberation" of Azari's in Iran yet still insist on Azeri domination of an Armenian dominated region?


Edited by TheGreatSimba - 27-May-2010 at 13:49

Originally posted by Emil_Diniyev They tell that for dumbarses like you to create a such image. Khamenei my arse. Hes from Mashad.

So, an Azeri born in Mashad isnt an Azeri? What if an Azeri is born in America, is he not an Azeri still? Nice logic, you're right I must be dumb because I just dont get it.

Originally posted by Emil_Diniyev Armenians settled in Karabakh from middle-east. There was even a monument in Karabakh dedicated to Armenians and it was saying "Armenians, welcome to Karabakh from Maraga/Iran, the 150th anniversary". Of course they destroyed it but there are pictures of it. If you want, I can post it.

It doesnt matter where they came from, my point is that they're there now, you propose ethnic cleansing?

Originally posted by Emil_Diniyev Well dumbarse, the difference is Palestinians has no force to drive out Israelis. And its a totally different matter. Azerbaijan's military budget are equal to whole state budget of Armenia and it will get much bigger as oil income will get more. While Armenia are isolated where people cross to Azerbaijan because of hunger. Of course the second war is invetiable, its only matter of time when it will start.

Oh, so the Israeli Palestinian issue is different because the Palestinians are weak, but because Azerbaijan is so powerful, it legitimizes a war which will surely kill thousands of people for a small piece of worthless land. Yea, once again, your logic amazes me, lets fight and die for a worthless small piece of land with a made up significance which stems from ultra nationalism.

Originally posted by Emil_Diniyev  And we don't have any intentions to drive out Armenians, thos who want to live there can still live there.

Ok, so you just want Azeri domination over an area of land that is more than 95% Armenian today...

Originally posted by Emil_Diniyev And how do you compare it to situation of Azeris in Iran?

You believe that Azarbaijan is occupied land (of course, anyone with a knowledge of the history of the region knows this is not true) and that it should have self determination correct?

Yet at the same time you want to deny Armenians the right of self determination. Do you see the connection buddy, or am I to much of a "dumbarse"?