Why Muslims are a dangerous people?!

You might well notice "minor Simba" that the above words describe the term "Congress!", which specifically identifies that group of elected representavies that reside in the National Congress of the USA!

Meanwhile, local semi-independent States, my well pass almost anything that they please!

Remember, that voters were ultimately expected to "vote with their feet!"

Edited by opuslola - 26-Jul-2010 at 16:32

It is most obvious to me, as a lover of America, speaking to a hater of America, that you and your minions, are the ones who whould discard the Constitution of the USA, like a used rubber!

Cum back at me, if you can?

Hail to our first, last and best president!

Jefferson Davis, from Kentucky!

Oh! That just happens to be the same state that Abraham Lincoln came from!

Oh well?

Does the above make me "delusional?"

As it is applied in the Constitution of the U.S.A,, YES!

As it applies to the "seperate" states it is up to them and their interpretation of Constitutional Rights!

As I said earlier, our founders figured out that citizens could "vote with their feet!"

Just as dangerous as everyone else. Being Muslim does not make them dangerous but the pathological, psychopaths and ignorant that exist in every group.

Cyrus earlier wrote;

"I think the religious freedom in the USA is well known in the world but I'm talking about Islamic violence everywhere in the world even in the USA, the reason can be that Islam doesn't teach us the tolerance!

"Fight those who believe not in Allah, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the true religion (Islam) from among the People of the Book (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jaziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued." (Quran: Al Taubah: 9 - 29)

But if you fight:

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land Is: 'Execution, or Crucifixion, or the Cutting and Removing Off of hands and feet from OPPOSITE sides, or exile from the land.' That is their disgrace in this world and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter." (Quran: Al-Ma'idah: 5 - 33)"

If any of you wish, you should look at the reliefs found in the temple at Medinet Habu, in Egypt,which supposedly depicts the war fought by some one whom is today identified with Rameses III, where by the panels of inscription show the Egyptians cutting off the hand(s?), of the conquered People of the Sea and their allies!

Does this practice actually predate Islam?

Originally posted by opuslola If any of you wish, you should look at the reliefs found in the temple at Medinet Habu, in Egypt,which supposedly depicts the war fought by some one whom is today identified with Rameses III, where by the panels of inscription show the Egyptians cutting off the hand(s?), of the conquered People of the Sea and their allies! Does this practice actually predate Islam?

Method of counting, people only have one right hand (usually) its that or a penis.

Originally posted by TheGreatSimba Originally posted by eaglecap Why don't you answer my question? What question? Frankly, and generally speaking, if you are a person that wants to deny Muslims the right to build an community center two blocks away from ground zero, than there is something fundamentally wrong with you.

Let's not make this personal and I am not opposed to them building a mosque but not on ground zero. There are over 100 mosques in New York City and surrounding areas. You still did not answer my question about the constitution. And what about the rebuilding of the Greek Orthodox Church, the city will not allow it. Does it seem fair they are rushing the Cordoba Initiative through but they will not allow the reconstruction of an already excising church? I wonder who is paying off who and where is the funding for this mosque coming from. No offense but I gather, in your world, asking such questions could be bigoted.   Ground Zero is sacred ground and if the building of the so-called interfaith community and mosque is for the purpose of bringing people together then why can’t they locate elsewhere?   Build a mosque fine but not on ground zero.

Some Muslims oppose the building of the mosque on ground zero

A Patriotic Muslim’s Warning on Ground Zero Mosque

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/a-patriotic-muslims-warning-on-ground-zero-mosque/

see more articles on this Muslim site:

http://www.aifdemocracy.org/

Originally posted by eaglecap Let's not make this personal and I am not opposed to them building a mosque but not on ground zero.

Why? Its their RIGHT and they bought the building. They can do whatever with it they want.

Originally posted by eaglecap You still did not answer my question about the constitution.

What was the question? With the forum being down I've forgotten.

Originally posted by eaglecap  And what about the rebuilding of the Greek Orthodox Church, the city will not allow it. Does it seem fair they are rushing the Cordoba Initiative through but they will not allow the reconstruction of an already excising church?

What the hell does the Orthodox Church have to do with the building of this mosque? I dont know why the city wont allow it, but they are allowing the construction of this community center, that should be the end of it.

Originally posted by eaglecap I wonder who is paying off who and where is the funding for this mosque coming from. No offense but I gather, in your world, asking such questions could be bigoted.

Yes, that is very bigoted. Unless you have evidence that they are getting funding from illegal sources, then you have no right to make this claim or even use it as an excuse to deny them their rights.

Originally posted by eaglecap   Ground Zero is sacred ground and if the building of the so-called interfaith community and mosque is for the purpose of bringing people together then why can’t they locate elsewhere?   Build a mosque fine but not on ground zero.

The mosque is NOT being built on ground zero, STOP saying that.

Some Muslims oppose the building of the mosque on ground zero

Originally posted by eaglecap A Patriotic Muslim’s Warning on Ground Zero Mosque http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/a-patriotic-muslims-warning-on-ground-zero-mosque/ see more articles on this Muslim site: http://www.aifdemocracy.org/

I dont care who opposes it, fact is, ITS THEIR RIGHT TO BUILD IT WHEREVER THEY WANT as long as they follow the rules and regulations, which they have.

Originally posted by opuslola And TGS presented a very Libertarian view of the proceedings! But, I wonder if his Libertarian views would hold up under differing circumstances?

I'm not libertarian, im practical when it comes to civil rights:

a) freedom of speech
b) freedom of religion
c) freedom to get married
etc...

Originally posted by opuslola Allowing the American Nazi Party to build a Waffen SS, clubhouse and beer garten, next to the Holocaust center?, or the Israeli embassy?   Of course we might well consider that the ACLU in Illinois, might well support these acts? (remember Skokie?)

It is their right. If they wish to do so, and if they adhered to the rules, regulations, and laws, they have every RIGHT to do that.

The reason people have RIGHTS is because there are those who wish to take away their rights, such as yourself. Just because you dont like it doesnt mean they cant do it. They can do whatever they want within the confines of the law.

Its called freedom.

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Frankly, this whole mosque issues is related to the wave of racism that has appeared in American conservatism since Obama's election.

Couple examples:

2 Arab christian journalists reporting for a christian arab satellite channel, who were there to protest the building of the mosque at one of the anti-mosque rallies, were verbally harassed and physically threatened by the crowd, who thought them to be muslims. The police had to come and rescue them.

A black man walking through another rally (this one was more recent) was assumed to be a muslim, was surrounded, verbally and physically threatened. He was also forced to leave the area. He was not a muslim.

These crowds are all white, all conservative, and even when other minorities simply come to join them or simply watch, those minorities are often harrassed and ejected from the area.

This is racism, pure and simply, it has nothing to do with 9/11 or ground zero.


Edited by TheGreatSimba - 25-Aug-2010 at 12:48