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So? Has anyone on this site actually looked at the above site? I dare to say that "no one has looked!"

Shame, shame upon all of you and your children!
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Well, literally, I did not mean to shame your children! I was merely trying to elicit some response?

But, perhaps there was never any response to be had?

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Again after a long absence I ask if any of you have ever heard or this man, or looked at his works?

http://books.google.com/books?id=WCIZAAAAYAAJ&dq=the+chronology+of+Blair&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=l0Ege-cPDf&sig=uzrUAagZqLZBkex3Cxv9VJUNsZY&hl=en&ei=yNWSSrXfMIjUMoe8rZIK&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

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Are any of you willing to give "Fomenko" a chance?

No, nyet, non, nein, no bloody way!!

There's enough crackpots in the world without me joining them. Historic revisionists are scoundrels who would have us believe that either it didn't happen, or it didn't happen in the way we all accept, or it didn't happen when we think it did, or................

From the little of Fomenko I've read, thanks to Opuslola, it makes my brain ache with the futility of it all.
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Futility is the course/curse of mankind!     

And, of course, my delight!
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Originally posted by opuslola

The subject says it all!

This adventure into alternative history has driven many people into panic or laughter!

Just what do any of you know about it?

Come on, don't be shy!

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  Quote Arthur-Robin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Feb-2014 at 07:08
Sorry i was abit closed-minded to say Fomenko is communisitic (nihilistic in writing off all history before Charlemagne) in the original date thread. I realised that there is a correspondence with Oswald Spenglar's organic cyclical "contemporary" "seasons" (and Velikovsky's duplicates/dark ages), and with this primary proofs site (http://www.primaryproofsofchristianity.com) ; also it is like our the Biblical versus geological/evolutionary, and the Biblical versus gentile (Egyptian 36525 yrs, Berosus 432000 yrs, etc) exagerated dates. And as medenaywe pointed out about "what day did cleopatra die...", which is a good point. Not that I agree that all history before 800 is fiction, just that there is some value in correspondences etc. I favour the biblical and world ages schemes.
Off topic note i may not be posting anymore or for a while as i am in serious trouble here with the poison water/fluoride and other situation/condition / life/love/studies/faith problems. God is my only hope or there is no hope at all in this world (eg the gagging law just passed in uk).


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Dear A-R! I really do not believe everything before the common usage of the printing press is incorrect. What I meant to convey was the press allowed the printing of so many copies of original works of the times made it very hard to change the facts as it seems.

I agree with Dr. Fomenko that the era of Charles LeGrande, is full of holes, but he and I agree that anything from even 800 to 900 CE, is subject to full scrutiny! It is from about that point in our consensual chronology that the past revolves into repetitive dynasties etc.!

Sorry about the sorry condition you are in, but I do not shun fluoride. It is a natural ingredient in many natural water sources and the natives seem to do quite well, as they have for centuries.

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Originally posted by opuslola

Again after a long absence I ask if any of you have ever heard or this man, or looked at his works?

http://books.google.com/books?id=WCIZAAAAYAAJ&dq=the+chronology+of+Blair&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=l0Ege-cPDf&sig=uzrUAagZqLZBkex3Cxv9VJUNsZY&hl=en&ei=yNWSSrXfMIjUMoe8rZIK&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

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Again, have any of you ever investigated the chronology of the world as written and updated years ago by "Blair?"

It is quite interesting.

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see my fluoride notes in my blog (link in profile). (the fluoride they add is not same compound nor same dosage/intake. + if there is already fluoride in the water then we don't need added (tho you cold try claim that same areas are deficient but that is not true either.) sorry for off topic but have to answer that common untrue claim of the pros.
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Originally posted by toyomotor

Are any of you willing to give "Fomenko" a chance?

No, nyet, non, nein, no bloody way!!

There's enough crackpots in the world without me joining them. Historic revisionists are scoundrels who would have us believe that either it didn't happen, or it didn't happen in the way we all accept, or it didn't happen when we think it did, or................

From the little of Fomenko I've read, thanks to Opuslola, it makes my brain ache with the futility of it all.
 
 
OOPS!! Sorry, I thought you were talking about something else.
 
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OY, Ron:
 
According to an article in the Ancient Origins web site, camels were not domesticated until about 900BC, which is centuries later than biblical texts would have as believe. This calls the accuracy of the Bible into question. (Huh???)
 

Does latest dating of camel bones reveal inaccuracy in the Bible?

 
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Archaeologists from the University of Tel Aviv in Israel, have found that camels were not domesticated in Israel until around 900 BC, which is centuries later than famous Biblical figures were said to have ridden them, drawing into question the accuracy of Biblical stories involving Abraham, Joseph and Jacob. They claim that this shows that Biblical text was compiled long after the events described in it and challenges the Bible as a historical document.

Dr Erez Ben-Yosef and Dr Lidar Sapir-Hen of Tel Aviv University's Department of Archaeology and Near Eastern Cultures conducted radiocarbon dating on the oldest known domesticated camel bones, found in the Aravah Valley in the southern Levant, in order to pinpoint the moment when domesticated camels arrived in the southern Levant from the Arabian Peninsula. They found camels came in the 9th century BC, not the 12th as previously thought.

It is believed that camels were originally domesticated in the Arabian Peninsula for use as pack animals sometime towards the end of the second millennium BC. Dr Ben-Yosef and Dr Sapir-Hen think the Aravah Valley would have been a logical entry point for domesticated camels into the southern Levant as it bordered the Arabian Peninsula.

“By analysing archaeological evidence from the copper production sites of the Aravah Valley, we were able to estimate the date of this event in terms of decades rather than centuries,” said Dr Ben-Yosef.

There is a branch of archaeology called biblical archaeology, whose aim is to prove that all events in the Bible did actually happen and that the Bible is therefore a historically accurate document, and their research has met with some success.  For example, last year archaeologists uncovered two royal public buildings in the Kingdom of Judah which they believe is the Palace of King David described in the Bible.  Researchers also reported finding the lost Biblical town of Damanutha where Jesus was said to have stayed following the feeding of the 5,000 miracle.

However, this latest research suggests that camels were not domesticated in Israel until long after the Age of the Patriarchs – when Abraham, Jacob and Isaac are said to have lived - between 2,000 and 1,500 BC. The findings draw more attention to the disagreements between Biblical texts and verifiable history. Nevertheless, it cannot be discounted that there are older remains of domesticated camels that have not yet been found.

By April Holloway

How would this measure up with the Fomenko thinking?
 
I've been saying for years that the Bible was not a contemporaneous document, written at or about the time that the events allegedly occurred. The fact that it was written several centuries after the believed birth of JC adds the likelihood of exaggeration and mythical exploits.
 
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OY, Ron:
 

According to an article in the Ancient Origins web site, camels were not domesticated until about 900BC, which is centuries later than biblical texts would have as believe. This calls the accuracy of the Bible into question. (Huh???)

 


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Dr Erez Ben-Yosef and Dr Lidar Sapir-Hen of Tel Aviv University's Department of Archaeology and Near Eastern Cultures conducted radiocarbon dating on the oldest known domesticated camel bones, found in the Aravah Valley in the southern Levant, in order to pinpoint the moment when domesticated camels arrived in the southern Levant from the Arabian Peninsula. They found camels came in the 9th century BC, not the 12th as previously thought.


It is believed that camels were originally domesticated in the Arabian Peninsula for use as pack animals sometime towards the end of the second millennium BC. Dr Ben-Yosef and Dr Sapir-Hen think the Aravah Valley would have been a logical entry point for domesticated camels into the southern Levant as it bordered the Arabian Peninsula.


“By analysing archaeological evidence from the copper production sites of the Aravah Valley, we were able to estimate the date of this event in terms of decades rather than centuries,” said Dr Ben-Yosef.


There is a branch of archaeology called biblical archaeology, whose aim is to prove that all events in the Bible did actually happen and that the Bible is therefore a historically accurate document, and their research has met with some success.  For example, last year archaeologists uncovered two royal public buildings in the Kingdom of Judah which they believe is the Palace of King David[/COLOR"> described in the Bible.  Researchers also reported finding the lost Biblical town of Damanutha[/COLOR"> where Jesus was said to have stayed following the feeding of the 5,000 miracle.


However, this latest research suggests that camels were not domesticated in Israel until long after the Age of the Patriarchs – when Abraham, Jacob and Isaac are said to have lived - between 2,000 and 1,500 BC. The findings draw more attention to the disagreements between Biblical texts and verifiable history. Nevertheless, it cannot be discounted that there are older remains of domesticated camels that have not yet been found.


By [COLOR=#000000">April Holloway[/COLOR">

How would this measure up with the Fomenko thinking?
 

I've been saying for years that the Bible was not a contemporaneous document, written at or about the time that the events allegedly occurred. The fact that it was written several centuries after the believed birth of JC adds the likelihood of exaggeration and mythical exploits.

 

Anyone else want to comment?


Well in a way Ian, you are supporting a Fomenko theorem!
Can you figure out why?

OV? Do you also speak Yiddish? LOL

En guarde',
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Ron: If that's a Fomenko theory, it's one I won't argue with.
Shalom!

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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2014 at 00:14
My dear Ian!

It does not even to have the FG stamp of approval! It merely exists!

And a lot of other similar things also exist on the FG revolution!

Thanks for your responses which some times seem as a tacit support!

But, just how do you treat my post that promotes the set-back that disregards Plato, from Plethon?

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