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    Posted: 11-Nov-2009 at 12:29
I think he had an important role in the development of different sciences in the world, he was a real thinker.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Nov-2009 at 19:22
I should think Averroes would be a close second?

As a matter of fact or fiction?, so much more seems to be known about both of these men of the East, than most of their counterparts in the West! IE, dates and places of birth and death, place of burial, etc.! Absolutely amazing! Heck in Europe no one can even be sure of the burial place of most of the kings and popes of these times! Maybe not of any of them?

But, these two! Wow!

Oh, by the way here is just the Wikipedia information on Avicenna!

I seem to notice that both of these great men have eight letters in their European names, and both names start with an "A", and both even seem to have double consonants in the names! Both were veritable masters at numerous arts or sciences also.

"Avicenna (Greek: Aβιτζιανός, Abitzianos),[6] (c. 980 - 1037) was a Persian[7] polymath and the foremost physician and philosopher of his time.[8] He was also an astronomer, chemist, geologist, logician, paleontologist, mathematician, physicist, poet, psychologist, scientist and teacher. [9]"

Just for comparisons sake, Wikipedia has the following on;

Averroes (pronounced /əˈvɛroʊ.iːz/) (1126 – December 10, 1198), was an Andalusian Muslim polymath of Moroccan origins; a master of Islamic philosophy, Islamic theology, Maliki law and jurisprudence, logic, psychology, politics, Arabic music theory, and the sciences of medicine, astronomy, geography, mathematics, physics and celestial mechanics. He was born in Córdoba, Al Andalus, modern day Spain, and died in Marrakesh, modern day Morocco. His school of philosophy is known as Averroism. He has been described by some[2] as the founding father of secular thought in Western Europe and "one of the spiritual fathers of Europe," [3] although other scholars oppose such claims [4][5]."

Heck, between the two of them, it seems they could have ruled the world? They seem to have had a lot in common!

As a comparison here is what Wikipedia has to say about one of the most famous European greats;

"Sir Isaac Newton FRS (4 January 1643 – 31 March 1727 [OS: 25 December 1642 – 20 March 1727])[1] was an English physicist, mathematician, astronomer, natural philosopher, alchemist, and theologian who is perceived and considered by a substantial number of scholars and the general public as one of the most influential men in history.[7] His 1687 publication of the Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica (usually called the Principia) is considered to be among the most influential books in the history of science, laying the groundwork for most of classical mechanics. In this work, Newton described universal gravitation and the three laws of motion which dominated the scientific view of the physical universe for the next three centuries. Newton showed that the motions of objects on Earth and of celestial bodies are governed by the same set of natural laws by demonstrating the consistency between Kepler's laws of planetary motion and his theory of gravitation, thus removing the last doubts about heliocentrism and advancing the scientific revolution.

In mechanics, Newton enunciated the conservation principles of momentum and angular momentum. In optics, he built the first practical reflecting telescope[8] and developed a theory of colour based on the observation that a prism decomposes white light into the many colours that form the visible spectrum. He also formulated an empirical law of cooling and studied the speed of sound.

In mathematics, Newton shares the credit with Gottfried Leibniz for the development of the differential and integral calculus. He also demonstrated the generalised binomial theorem, developed the so-called "Newton's method" for approximating the zeroes of a function, and contributed to the study of power series.

Newton remains influential to scientists, as demonstrated by a 2005 survey of scientists and the general public in Britain's Royal Society asking who had the greater effect on the history of science, Newton or Albert Einstein. Newton was deemed to have made the greater overall contribution to science, although the two men were closer when it came to contributions to humanity.[9]"

But, the above totally fails to mention that Newton tried to totally rewrite the history of Greece, Egypt, etc., in his book entitled "The Revision of Ancient History, Ammended!"

Man oh man! I sure would want to be the fly on the wall if these three men were ever able to meet and talk!

I mean, besides Rocket Science, and Atomic fusion, and plastics chuckle, (and a few other things)these guys seemed to have mastered every thing else!

so, lets see, we have three men, one from the 10th and 11th centuries, another from the 12th century and the last from the 17th and 18th centuries. Thus basically 650 years or so seperate the two Muslims from the Christian.

It is too much to consider.

Edited by opuslola - 12-Nov-2009 at 19:57
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