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    Posted: 08-Nov-2010 at 18:07
Have you ever had a heart attack?

So far, since you entered this site with a determined anti-Ron, syndrome, there will be no points awarded to you!

Since it seems you are the one with only a few posts! Unless you are a troll from the old site?

So just who/whom are you?

Regards come with your future responses!

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  Quote Deathless Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Nov-2010 at 01:52
Originally posted by opuslola

Have you ever had a heart attack?

So far, since you entered this site with a determined anti-Ron, syndrome, there will be no points awarded to you!

Since it seems you are the one with only a few posts! Unless you are a troll from the old site?

So just who/whom are you?

Regards come with your future responses!


Ohh don't be cruel LOL
Opuslola, say many things with few words and not the opposite Wink
I still want to believe that you were joking about Socrates.

What's the other site, do they got cookies there?
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Nov-2010 at 20:40
Actually I consider that Plato was really Pletho / Plethhon, who had an academy in Florence in the middle ages!

And, that is being as serious as a heart attack!

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  Quote p,c,ma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Nov-2010 at 19:00
Please tell me your joking.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Nov-2010 at 23:53
Joking, just whom would joke about such an idea?

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  Quote p,c,ma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Nov-2010 at 17:13
Socrates name was used directly by Plato in his Republic, among other writings.
How do you explain such a use with your theory.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Nov-2010 at 18:22
So, since a man of the Middle Ages, "reportedly" used the name "Socrates" in his reported works, are we or, are you supposed to go head long and believe it?

Just find me one original work of either?

Or just find me one "original" work of any of the supposedly ancient Greeks?
Bet you cannot?

Did you know that Plethon also supposedly?, wrote just such a tract?

Just why would you expect to find out so much personal information about very ancient personages, but then find out that relatively newer personages have very little background, if any at all?

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  Quote p,c,ma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Nov-2010 at 20:03
To be blind to the truth and see only conspiracies is your choice not mine.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Nov-2010 at 22:54
Ok, the University of Tennessee cut their basketball coach's salary by a great deal! Was it their decision or the coach's?

Or was it a conspiracy?

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  Quote Athena Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2010 at 03:01
I didn't rate Socrates as genius because I don't believe it took a lot of knowledge to do what he did.  I rated him as great because he made an important difference,  He moved popular thinking away from superstition and in the direction of rational reasoning.  Aristolte being a student of Plato who was a student of Socrates.  Aristotle advanced us on the path of rational thinking and science.   Aristotle was a teacher of Alexander the Great, and he spread Hellenism. 
 
It is Aristotle's concept that our goal is happiness and that we achieve happiness by fulfilling our function to reason.  This later is written in the US Declaration of Independence as our unalienable right to puruse happiness.   And it comes up in our constitution as a protected freedom of speech.  So, it could be said Socrates played an important role in putting us the path for democracy.  I think that qualifies Socrates a great man, because he created this path of logic.   
 
I especially like what Socrates did to our understanding of morals, which is essential to democracy.  As you all know, this is my favorite subject.


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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2010 at 07:29
Dear p,c, ma! (which I have deciphered as "Politically Correct Mother?", to read more about my identification, I would suggest that you proceed to the alternative section of this site! Since my ideas (which are not my original ideas) can be legally presented.

I will entitle my post (and the circumstantial evidence) there under the title Plato,or Plethon or Plotinus!
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2010 at 18:37
So! Deathless and P,c. ma, under what bridge are you both now hiding?

I am but a toothless troll, by the way!

But, I might well "gum" you guys to death?

As a famous movie once said; "come out, come out where ever you are?"

Wizard of Oz! The good witch calling to the munchkins!
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  Quote p,c,ma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2010 at 18:53
The bridge of the obvious truth, not the bridge of conspiracies that you like so much.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2010 at 19:17
And p,c.ma, just what conspiracies are you referring to? And just why would I like them?

Tough questions for a fellow Tennessean!

Yes, I was born and raised in Tennessee!

But, I am not a UT fan, by any means!

You are surely a person of few words!

"Do not be afraid, for I will be with you for ever!" Biblical!

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  Quote p,c,ma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2010 at 19:29
I am merely a man of philosophy.
 
And as to the conspiracies you are suggesting that Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, and Macus Aurelius (among many others) were referring to a myth not a man.
 
Which is something I refuse to believe.
 
By the way I dont like UT either.
 
P.S.
 
I do like the Predators.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2010 at 19:48
But, I do not suggest anything like that! "Your philosophy eludes me" or some words to that effect?

No, I merely suggest that the real Plato was actually as historians today call him "a man of the middle Ages", ergo G. G. Plethon!

You can read my entire small posts on this subject if you actually look at the main site, and look under "alternative history!", where you will see all of the names of this man mentioned!

The other figures you mention are either figments or they are nicknames of other personages of the same age!

So read it and either "weep" or cry "wee, wee, wee all the way home?"

But, you show the "orange" so boldly in your background photo!

Regards,and go Predators!

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  Quote p,c,ma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2010 at 19:55
I read it, see what your getting at, but its still just a theory and you have no proof.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2010 at 20:20
In court one can be convicted based upon the weight of circumstantial evicence! And, mostly all of our history before the use of the printing press, has been based upon less!

In actuallity it was mostly based upon ancedotal material!

As one poster here made clear; "the plural of ancedote is not fact!"

Just check out the circumstantial evidence I presented there? It is pretty heavy is it not?

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  Quote p,c,ma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2010 at 20:29
Circumstantial evidence says Aal Capone was innocent.
 
That the Egyptians and Aztecs were assisted by aliens.
 
There is a reason our courts dont accepy circumstantial evidence.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2010 at 20:42
But, the courts do accept it!

Please see;

http://www.criminal-law-lawyer-source.com/terms/circum-evidence.html

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/c342.htm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article3883297.ece

Sorry, I am a retired Federal Agent! And my step son is a practicing attorney at Law! I am sorry he has not yet mastered his trade and continues to merely "practice" it!

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