Koreans and Aryans

Originally posted by KoreanEmpire Not true. Koreans are Koreans.

This is true. However, I do think that Koreans are mixtures of different people but still restricted to East Asian. Just look at their faces, we can conclude that they are a mixture of, from the North, Mongolians, Manchus, Tungus, just say the Altaics. And from the South, to a certain degree, Southeast Asia and Southern China.

But I cannot tolerate the idiotic nonsense saying that Koreans are related to Indo Europeans. I would rather believe that the Japanese Emperor is a real god.

Originally posted by KoreanEmpire We are all descendants of Great Tangun who was the grandson of god.

According to the legend, yes. But I doubt that ALL of us are his descendants.

Originally posted by KoreanEmpire That is the reason why Korean race is called Holy Race.

I really wish that was so.      Come on, I thought Korean historians weren't as depraved as the Japanese.
 

Originally posted by KoreanEmpire But it is possible that the ancient Koreans migrated to Europe became Aryan. In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans.

What the....? Ridiculous.

http://myhome.shinbiro.com/~kbyon/culture/sanggo.htm

I actually checked the link above. It is true that they have some interesting facts but they are way too nationalistic and wishful thinking.

This kind of obvious nationalistic hoax just makes Korea's image hit the bottom.

However, once in a while one or two foreign people appear in Korean history. For example some Arabian traders who decided to just live in Silla or Goryeo. But we don't even know if they married and continued their blood.
Some Mongols, Malgal or Mohe, Georan or Kitan, through invasion and assimilation. Well but then they might genetically have not much difference from the Koreans. There also is the wife of King Kim Suro, the founding king of Gaya, who is from the Indian kingdom of Ayuta. Again, I doubt the proabability but people could not have just put her in the history for no reason.

"In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans."     Please, don't make Korea anymore ridiculous. It'll make us no different from the Japanese.

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Originally posted by jamesse Originally posted by KoreanEmpire Not true. Koreans are Koreans. This is true. However, I do think that Koreans are mixtures of different people but still restricted to East Asian. Just look at their faces, we can conclude that they are a mixture of, from the North, Mongolians, Manchus, Tungus, just say the Altaics. And from the South, to a certain degree, Southeast Asia and Southern China. But I cannot tolerate the idiotic nonsense saying that Koreans are related to Indo Europeans. I would rather believe that the Japanese Emperor is a real god. Originally posted by KoreanEmpire We are all descendants of Great Tangun who was the grandson of god. According to the legend, yes. But I doubt that ALL of us are his descendants. Originally posted by KoreanEmpire That is the reason why Korean race is called Holy Race. I really wish that was so.      Come on, I thought Korean historians weren't as depraved as the Japanese.   Originally posted by KoreanEmpire But it is possible that the ancient Koreans migrated to Europe became Aryan. In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans. What the....? Ridiculous. http://myhome.shinbiro.com/~kbyon/culture/sanggo.htm I actually checked the link above. It is true that they have some interesting facts but they are way too nationalistic and wishful thinking. This kind of obvious nationalistic hoax just makes Korea's image hit the bottom. However, once in a while one or two foreign people appear in Korean history. For example some Arabian traders who decided to just live in Silla or Goryeo. But we don't even know if they married and continued their blood. Some Mongols, Malgal or Mohe, Georan or Kitan, through invasion and assimilation. Well but then they might genetically have not much difference from the Koreans. There also is the wife of King Kim Suro, the founding king of Gaya, who is from the Indian kingdom of Ayuta. Again, I doubt the proabability but people could not have just put her in the history for no reason. "In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans."     Please, don't make Korea anymore ridiculous. It'll make us no different from the Japanese.

sorry, jamesse, this koreanempire dude is full of it, just like the Chinese and Japanese extreme nationalists.  They distort history and nothing else because they all have a POLITICAL agenda for what they claim.

He doesn't represent Koreans any more than the right-winger Japanese nationalists represent Japan.

I think the new Korean reich should have a kimstaka instead of a swatika and its made with a cabbage leaf.  I honestly dont know who in their right mind would A, take founding myths as fact and B, think the British and the Koreans are the same thing, but hell, hey are both good at sinking invaders on the sea at least.

Korean tea is however much better than British tea, it often has this slight popcorn flavor I cant place.  Hence I call it popcorn tea. 

I find it intresting whenver someone claims their country is of the master race, they usually come from a frequently conquered nation.  If theres anyone left on this thread willing to argue Koreans are some kind of master race I would like to hear the explanation for why a master race gets conquered so often by its less masterfull neighbors.  I remeber using this tactic on an Iranian guy and him having no effective response...

Originally posted by Tobodai I think the new Korean reich should have a kimstaka instead of a swatika and its made with a cabbage leaf.  I honestly dont know who in their right mind would A, take founding myths as fact and B, think the British and the Koreans are the same thing, but hell, hey are both good at sinking invaders on the sea at least. Korean tea is however much better than British tea, it often has this slight popcorn flavor I cant place.  Hence I call it popcorn tea.  I find it intresting whenver someone claims their country is of the master race, they usually come from a frequently conquered nation.  If theres anyone left on this thread willing to argue Koreans are some kind of master race I would like to hear the explanation for why a master race gets conquered so often by its less masterfull neighbors.  I remeber using this tactic on an Iranian guy and him having no effective response...

Actually there is a good argument that your Iranian friend could've made.  Military success isn't the sole determinant for the greatness of a people.  Isreal had been bullied around for the past few millenia, but they see a sudden surge of success in recent history.  We cannot deny their influence in big academic fields: Eintein in physics, Freud in psychology, and Marx in sociology.  The ideas of these three guys have tremendous influences in not only the intellectual history, but in many other areas of the life of the 20th century.  Hence military success alone doesn't make a people great.

Bottomline, though, is that no one is truly superior (this is so cliche.)  I wouldn't say the Jews are a "master people" because of their recent success either.  Nor would I call any super military power a "master people."

Originally posted by MengTzu Originally posted by Tobodai I think the new Korean reich should have a kimstaka instead of a swatika and its made with a cabbage leaf.  I honestly dont know who in their right mind would A, take founding myths as fact and B, think the British and the Koreans are the same thing, but hell, hey are both good at sinking invaders on the sea at least. Korean tea is however much better than British tea, it often has this slight popcorn flavor I cant place.  Hence I call it popcorn tea.  I find it intresting whenver someone claims their country is of the master race, they usually come from a frequently conquered nation.  If theres anyone left on this thread willing to argue Koreans are some kind of master race I would like to hear the explanation for why a master race gets conquered so often by its less masterfull neighbors.  I remeber using this tactic on an Iranian guy and him having no effective response... Actually there is a good argument that your Iranian friend could've made.  Military success isn't the sole determinant for the greatness of a people.  Isreal had been bullied around for the past few millenia, but they see a sudden surge of success in recent history.  We cannot deny their influence in big academic fields: Eintein in physics, Freud in psychology, and Marx in sociology.  The ideas of these three guys have tremendous influences in not only the intellectual history, but in many other areas of the life of the 20th century.  Hence military success alone doesn't make a people great. Bottomline, though, is that no one is truly superior (this is so cliche.)  I wouldn't say the Jews are a "master people" because of their recent success either.  Nor would I call any super military power a "master people."

 

this wasnt my point (man what is it with Chinese people misinterpreting everything I say!) my point was for arguments sake, Most people that argue the master race point of view tend to be militaristic and into war.  Which is why its funny that they often come from non-militaritistically inclined nations.  Its very rare you will find someone who argues there is a master race that also values non-militaristic values.

I of course think there is no such thing as inheirent dominance in any field, just geographic circumstance.

I'm Korean. I'd say we are more like the Irish than the English. Good at fighting invaders with reckless and sacrificial courage, but not good at invading others. Good at drinking and brooding and...fighting. But not good at living harmoniously with each other.

Originally posted by Scorpian        The Aryans in Korea being talked about were suppossed Alani. From Korea the Alani suppossed invaded Japan in latter Fourth Century. The Alani in both instance were suppossed racially absorbed by the native populations.

Wow, where can I read more about the supposed Alani in Korea? I would be interested...

Originally posted by Scorpian Originally posted by Hando Originally posted by Scorpian        The Aryans in Korea being talked about were suppossed Alani. From Korea the Alani suppossed invaded Japan in latter Fourth Century. The Alani in both instance were suppossed racially absorbed by the native populations. Wow, where can I read more about the supposed Alani in Korea? I would be interested...             i got that information off the internet when i was researching the Alani but that was a while back and i can't remember where i read it.                   i thought it was bullsh*t so i had dismissed it alongside such claims as the Alani were survivors from Atlantis  (and i said mocking was catching. lmao)          i thought to mention about the suppossed Alani in Korea when you peeps starting talking about it. (had me pondering over what i'd read)           Apparently it was suppossed two Japanese scholars who made claim about the Alani in Korea and Japan in latter Fourth century. This would tie in with other Alani movements of that time.           Anyways it may be true or the claim may be bull but it does give pause for thought before we dismiss others forum postings.             I'm constantly researching the Alani and i'll keep peeps informed should i happen across any other Alani/Korea/Japan info that can prove these claims beyond reasonable doubt.                     till then i'll keep an open mind

Yeah, I were chuffed to read that...
Cos, I also read a book that suggested that the whole Arthurian legend had Alani basis. Supposeldy, Alani have simliar legends of sowrds in stones andthe Alani were brought to Hadrians wall by Hadrian. So they say this is how it spread to what we now know as King Arthur.
A mix of celtic, christian rooted in original Alani source legends.

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Yeah, I were chuffed to read that...
Cos, I also read a book that suggested that the whole Arthurian legend had Alani basis. Supposeldy, Alani have simliar legends of sowrds in stones andthe Alani were brought to Hadrians wall by Hadrian. So they say this is how it spread to what we now know as King Arthur.
A mix of celtic, christian rooted in original Alani source legends.
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Edited by Scorpian - 24-May-2006 at 06:15

Originally posted by Hando Wow, where can I read more about the supposed Alani in Korea? I would be interested...

Edited by Scorpian - 24-May-2006 at 09:52