CYPRUS issue

The unified Republic of Cyprus only had 3 years of relative peace since its independence from the British (1960-63).

If you look at the facts you will know that the Turkish Cypriots had to struggle with great hardships due to Greek Cypriot fascism, all right to be fair not all Greek Cypriots were racist but many were. Terrorist organisations such as EOKA and EOKA-B killed and terrorised many Turks, in order to gain ENOSiS(unification with Greece). These terrorist groups eventually were successful in making the Turks be confined to only 3% of Cyprus under UN protection. Someone who was meant to promote peace, Archbishop Makarios, actually encouraged this policy. The Turks had to endure this hardship for 11 years (1963-74), until Turkey came to save the Turkish Cypriots by allowing the Turkish Cypriots to govern one third of Cyprus.

In conclusion, the Turkish Cypriots have seen Cyprus as there home since 1571, their language, ethnicity, culture and religion is different to that of the Greek Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots had to endure 11 years of terrorism under the unified republic of Cyprus. This is why there is a TRNC.

Turkish Cypriots have been independent from the Greek Cypriots for 31 years, is it not time for the embargoes to be lifted? Is it not time for the world to recognize us?

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I have a feeling that if turks were the main population on Cyprus, then at one time it would want to try to unite with "the motherland". I do love the one sidedness of Osmanis views, and i personally think another turkish/greek argument does not need to be opened..

I think this topic will be useful to find a suitable solution.

Cyprus is an issue that all world is trying to make Turkey believe he has no right to occupy 1/3 of the island, but the situation is not like this at all. Until the peace btw two nations is not garantied and the lives of Turks arent safe, a unification is impossible. Also the plans for giving some parts of T.R.N.C. to Southern Rep. are unreightful and unnecessary, since you cant earn anything by giving the lands that Turks live to Greek authority. This only causes violence and is nonesense...

Originally posted by Molossos Tzar, instead of claiming that Cyprus should be independent and that belongs to her tourists, I must remind you that it has been Greek since the dawn of humanity, for milennia that is.

Greek since the dawn of humanity, apart from being under
Hittite
"Sea people"
Phoenician
Assyrian
Egyptian
Persian
Ptolemaic Egyptian
Roman
Arab
Crusader/English
Knights Templar
Frankish
Venetian
Ottoman
British
and Turkish rule.
It seems Cyprus was Greek only for a rather small part of its recorded history.
But as the saying goes: "A nation is a society united by a delusion about its ancestry and by a common hatred of its neighbours."


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Originally posted by Aquila Komnenos is right, but it doesn't matter whose rule it was first under or whose rule it was under during a certain period of history. If the TUrks want to be separated from the Greeks so be it. Hopefully they and the Greeks can come to a peaceful resolution.

Absolutely!

I thought I just debunk the idea that Cyprus has been solidly Greek in culture and history since the first Cypriot climbed down from the trees. No country in the world can claim that it had an unbroken uni-ethnical or cultural tradition from the beginning of time.
That's what history is all about, the continous flux and exchange of people and ideas.
And Cyprus has been fought over so many times, I'm surprised it's still there.

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Originally posted by Oguzoglu I think this topic will be useful to find a suitable solution. Cyprus is an issue that all world is trying to make Turkey believe he has no right to occupy 1/3 of the island, but the situation is not like this at all. Until the peace btw two nations is not garantied and the lives of Turks arent safe, a unification is impossible. Also the plans for giving some parts of T.R.N.C. to Southern Rep. are unreightful and unnecessary, since you cant earn anything by giving the lands that Turks live to Greek authority. This only causes violence and is nonesense...

Whose lives are not safe?The Turkish ones?That's why Turkey put 40.000 Turkish troops there?In order to fight the "terrible" Cypriot-Hellenic guard of 12.000 men,a guard with no airforce and with no real navy?BE REASONABLE!!!EVEN IF Hellen-Cypriots wanted to hurt Turkish-Cypriots,they would not be capable because simply the Cypriot democracy is in European Union.This lands that the Turks live,were the lands that 200.000 Hellens used to live before they've been kicked out from their own homes,which were built by their own hands and expenses.So you are the one talking nonesense here.

Originally posted by Komnenos Originally posted by Molossos Tzar, instead of claiming that Cyprus should be independent and that belongs to her tourists, I must remind you that it has been Greek since the dawn of humanity, for milennia that is. Greek since the dawn of humanity, apart from being under Hittite "Sea people" Phoenician Assyrian Egyptian Persian Ptolemaic Egyptian Roman Arab Crusader/English Knights Templar Frankish Venetian Ottoman British and Turkish rule. It seems Cyprus was Greek only for a rather small part of its recorded history. But as the saying goes: "A nation is a society united by a delusion about its ancestry and by a common hatred of its neighbours."

The RULE of countries can change, but the PEOPLE still remain.

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The RULE of countries can change, but the PEOPLE still remain.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
Hellas for example, has been under the rule of several countries through out history, did it make the population of Hellas part of any of the ruler's country's population. Can anyone say that during the Roman, Venetian, Ottoman, German occupation of these lands the population was strictly Roman, Venetian,Ottoman, German????

I'd think not.

If you look at the facts you will know that the Turkish Cypriots had to struggle with great hardships due to Greek Cypriot fascism, all right to be fair not all Greek Cypriots were racist but many were. Terrorist organisations such as EOKA and EOKA-B killed and terrorised many Turks, in order to gain ENOSiS(unification with Greece).

If you had done your research you would have known that EOKA was developed in the mid 1960's as a reaction to TAKISM that had developed with the support of Ankara in the early 1950's.

So as you see the unfortunate Hellinic-Cypriots gave you a full 12-15yrs to destroy peace in the island.


Edited by Phallanx

1950's?Boy you are funnnnnyyyy

Both intelligent and with a good sense of humour, gee thanks

So you reject the FACT that TAKSIM was developed in the 50's????

Try asking Rauf Denktash!!! he'll tell you when they formed that terror organization also known as: Turk Mukavemet Teskilati (TMT)

Denktash: Three people established the TMT

According to KIBRIS (16.6.00) Turkish Cypriot leader Rauf Denktash, speaking to a group of former commanders of the terrorist organization TMT (Turkish Resistance Organization), stressed that three people, late Dr. Burhan Nalbantoglu, Kemal Tanrisevdi and himself established the terrorist organization.

Commenting on one of the leaders of the terrorist organization Ismail Tansu's claim that it was colonel Riza Vuruskan (sent from Turkey) and Tansu that established the TMT, Denktash said that Tansu rendered very valuable services to the TMT, however, he added, it was three people who founded the terrorist organization.

Denktash admits establishing the TMT

KIBRIS (19.5.99) reports that Turkish Cypriot leader Rauf Denktash while meeting the members of the new executive committee of the terrorist organization TMT, the so-called Turkish Cypriot Fighters Association, has said that he and late Burhan Nalbantoglu and Kemal Tanriserdi established the terrorist organization in November 1957.

SOURCE: http://turkeyhumanrights.fw.bz/TMT.htm#d

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Turks in UK still remember the bitter past. Protest for TRNC rights in London