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    Posted: 28-Sep-2008 at 18:09
Dortmund this time licks Stuttgart, and BTW i LOVE the new away colours because they are in the national colours of Württemberg, Black and Red. if anything Bayern immitates Stuttgart! LOL oh yeah bayern, they lost (again) to Hanover, which is actually suprizing. the start of this season is already ruined for them, Dortmund and particularly Hamburg can say quite the opposite for themselves. the best match yesterday was however by far Bremen vs Hoffenheims 5:4 that started as a 1:1, 4:1, 4:4, 5:4 and it was already 4:1 after half an hour! (it has been called match of the year and everyone who has the chance should watch it!) not to say, Hoffenheim, the youngest team in the BL actually could have scored more goals with a bit more luck, Bremen can actually be lucky to get away with 3 points! speaking of which, i have to correct myself, Hoffenheim is from Northern Baden and not Nortern Württemberg as i assumed... Embarrassed (but then it makes it easier for me to hate them LOL ) so unless the Stuttgarter Kickers or VfR Aalen ascend from the 3. Bundesliga, there won't be a derby for us Württemberger anytime soon. nevertheless, there were some ugly scenes between fans of Stuttgart and Karlsruhe hooligans that clashed with each others after the match (again). so even though it's not a real derby, some fans think different... Unhappy


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  Quote ulrich von hutten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Sep-2008 at 16:35
Originally posted by Temujin

and today Hoffenheim surprised by beating Dortmund and taking 2nd place in the Bundesliga, while 2 years before it wasn't even in 2. Bundesliga. Stuttgart also won vs Karlsruhe and takes the 3rd place and the newspapers et al again took the opportunity to piss em off and call it a derby. Freiburg also had a decisive win and took first place in 2. Bundesliga, so unless Karlsrueh fails me it seems next season we see 4 clubs from Baden-Württemberg in the 1. Bundesliga.

oh yeah and Gazprom 04 took lead in the 1. Bundesliga with an unimpressive match that amounted to a total defeat, the only goal was shot by Frankfurt themselves! LOL
 
A sad for a man, but a very evil day for mankind. Dortmund lost at the parvenus of Hoffenheim.

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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Sep-2008 at 19:38
and today Hoffenheim surprised by beating Dortmund and taking 2nd place in the Bundesliga, while 2 years before it wasn't even in 2. Bundesliga. Stuttgart also won vs Karlsruhe and takes the 3rd place and the newspapers et al again took the opportunity to piss em off and call it a derby. Freiburg also had a decisive win and took first place in 2. Bundesliga, so unless Karlsrueh fails me it seems next season we see 4 clubs from Baden-Württemberg in the 1. Bundesliga.

oh yeah and Gazprom 04 took lead in the 1. Bundesliga with an unimpressive match that amounted to a total defeat, the only goal was shot by Frankfurt themselves! LOL
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Sep-2008 at 21:25
OMG all Hail Bremen, and this happened just as the Oktoberfest is begining!!!!!!! ClapClapClapClapNuke
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  Quote Majkes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2008 at 10:00
I think the refree was also very helpfull to Borussia.
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  Quote ulrich von hutten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2008 at 07:13
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Wow that must've been another pandemonium in Dortmund, Ulrich.   Good to see the Frei is healthy again.  Too bad he got hurt for Swiss over the summer but now he's healthy again, that definitely helps Dortmund to have a better season. 
 
Two men advantage or not, coming back from 3-0 to tie the game is a quite an achievement!  Do they have any Turks in the Dortmund squad?Big%20smile  How did Young Pyo Lee look?  Well, the defense couldn't have looked that good going down 3-0, huh?  But did he contribute in the 2nd half surge?     
 
Young was in the starting line-up and did a good, but more unobtrusive job. But Frei's comeback was like a thunderstorm that came over Schalke.

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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2008 at 00:00
actually there were two local derbies today if you look at the match ups. other than Schalke - Dortmund also Stuttgart played vs Hoffenheim the Bundesliga newcomer. usually matches between Stuttgart and Karslruhe have been called as local derby but that wasn't really true because Karlsruhe was the capital of Baden and Stuttgart the capital of Württemberg. after ww2 both countries descided to amalgate but still that doesn't make it a derby. Hoffenheim on the other hand is in Württemberg too. i hope that Freiburg makes it into the 1. Bundesliga too next season, so Karlsruhe also has their local derby matchup and there would be for the first time(?) 4 teams from Baden-Württemberg in the Bundesliga.
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  Quote King Kang of Mu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Sep-2008 at 20:28
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Today, dear King Kang, Dortmund hosts Schalke. A match of a great brisance.

Nearby, in Cologne, the FC Köln faces to Bayern München. The matches are already running and i'm sitting in my workroom, the fireside is on, a coffee nearby,listen to WDR 2 livestream. The world is so beautyful.

I will report later on.
 
 
Didn't see that post earlier.  Yes, the world is so beautyful, isn't it?  We had our first cold weather this week.  I guess it's been cold enough for a fireplace in Iceland for some weeks huh?  Or is it always?  I was dreading for the prospect of another winter but you just made me to look forward.  I'm not even a coffee drinker, it sounds good to me now.
 
Here are today's results
 
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  1. FC Köln  0 - 3  Bayern Munich
53'     0 - 1 Goal Luca Toni
60'     0 - 2 Goal Luca Toni
90'     0 - 3 Goal Lukas Podolski
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  Borussia Dortmund  3 - 3  Schalke 04
20'     0 - 1 Goal Jefferson Farfan (pen)
39'     0 - 2 Goal Rafinha
54'     0 - 3 Goal Heiko Westermann
67' Neven Subotic Goal 1 - 3    
71' Alexander Frei Goal 2 - 3    
73'       Red%20Card Christian Pander
76'       Red%20Card Fabian Ernst
89' Alexander Frei (pen) Goal 3 - 3    
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  Hamburg SV  3 - 2  Bayer Leverkusen
4'     0 - 1 Goal Tranquillo Barnetta
24'     0 - 2 Goal Patrick Helmes
36' José Paolo Guerrero Goal 1 - 2    
40'       Red%20Card Manuel Friedrich
51' Ivica Olic Goal 2 - 2    
72' Mladen Petric Goal 3 - 2    
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  Hertha Berlin  2 - 2  VfL Wolfsburg
1'     0 - 1 Goal Ricardo Costa
57' Gojko Kacar Goal 1 - 1    
85' Cícero Goal 2 - 1    
89'     2 - 2 Goal Sascha Riether
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  Werder Bremen  3 - 0  Energie Cottbus
75' Diego Goal 1 - 0    
80' Torsten Frings Goal 2 - 0    
83' Boubacar Sanogo Goal 3 - 0    
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Sep-2008 at 19:19
Lee looked good, but not to offend Ulrich, but the tie by Dortmund was more luck than anyhting. 
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  Quote King Kang of Mu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Sep-2008 at 19:13
Wow that must've been another pandemonium in Dortmund, Ulrich.   Good to see the Frei is healthy again.  Too bad he got hurt for Swiss over the summer but now he's healthy again, that definitely helps Dortmund to have a better season. 
 
Two men advantage or not, coming back from 3-0 to tie the game is a quite an achievement!  Do they have any Turks in the Dortmund squad?Big%20smile  How did Young Pyo Lee look?  Well, the defense couldn't have looked that good going down 3-0, huh?  But did he contribute in the 2nd half surge?     
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  Quote ulrich von hutten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Sep-2008 at 16:21
What a match, Dortmund scored the third goal by a penalty at minute 89 ,after 2 players of Schalke were disqualified during the second half.
 


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  Quote ulrich von hutten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Sep-2008 at 16:03
15 minutes to go 2:3, Dortmund scored two goas in the last 5 minutes, while München leads by 2 goals to 0 in Cologne.

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  Quote ulrich von hutten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Sep-2008 at 14:56
20 Min 0:1 Schalke Farfan penalty, shame.

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  Quote ulrich von hutten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Sep-2008 at 14:46

Today, dear King Kang, Dortmund hosts Schalke. A match of a great brisance.

Nearby, in Cologne, the FC Köln faces to Bayern München. The matches are already running and i'm sitting in my workroom, the fireside is on, a coffee nearby,listen to WDR 2 livestream. The world is so beautyful.

I will report later on.

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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Aug-2008 at 19:55
Bremen (particularly Frings) sucked, Leverkusen is on a winning course, Stuttgart won again and Bayern too, for a change Tongue


Leverkusen - Hoffenheim was a rather good match, the result is a bit decieving as both clubs played a good offensive football and Hoffenheim was the less experienced.
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  Quote King Kang of Mu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Aug-2008 at 20:41
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Hey King ,read today that Borussia Dortmund hired a corean player.
Young-Pyo Lee should be a role player and a backup for the currently injured Dede, was loan out from the Hotspurs.
Didn't know him before, do you?
 
Awesomeness!  More reason for me to cheer for Dortmund this season.  Young Pyo Lee is a good player.  I'm gonna have to say he is the best Korean dribbler even if he's a defender.  Think of Korean Lahm.  
 
He was one of the best player for Korean team in 2002.  Hiddink liked him so much he took him and Ji Sung Park to PSV after the WC.  With PSV, not only they won the Eredivisie every year he was there they also went to the Champs League semifinal one year and almost beat AC Milan to go to the final.  I remember that semifinal very well, especially even Cafu had hard time defending him out on the wings.
 
With Tottenham he was big hit at first but they switched him to right back and he struggled.  He suffered some big injuries with Tottenham too. 
 
I don't think he is the same Young Pyo Lee that took PSV to the Champs League semifinal anymore, he is 31 and that was already 3-4 years ago, plus the injuries he suffered.  But I see why Dortmund picked him up if Dede is injured.  At this point I question his ability to shut down an opponent's winger defensively but as a wingback he can still run the offense like how Dede does for Dortmund.  And when Dede comes back, I think you can still play both together. 
 
When Hiddink was coaching the Korean team, he actually went with 3-5-2 formation and used him as more of a holding mid/winger, which I think is his best position.  Funny enouygh, one of the knock on him as wingback is that he tends to hold the ball little too long in the back.  Who does he think he is, a Brazilian?Big%20smile But in 4-4-2, he needs a defensive mid parter who stays home a lot so he can slip out the wings for offense, like Makalele or Gattuso type.  
 
I will tell you this, Ulrich.  There will be some moments this season that he will make you wonder why this guy isn't an world class wing attacker, but there will be also few moments you see him manhandled defensively against a physical attacker.  I just don't think he's an elite team starting wingback in defensive point of view but he is still an elite team starting wingback in offensive point of view.  I hope the rest of Dortmund defense is strong enough so he can get out more where you can see his skills. 
 


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  Quote ulrich von hutten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Aug-2008 at 09:29
Hey King ,read today that Borussia Dortmund hired a corean player.
Young-Pyo Lee should be a role player and a backup for the currently injured Dede, was loan out from the Hotspurs.
Didn't know him before, do you?

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  Quote King Kang of Mu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 18:52
I got dish too and still without Gol TV.  But fortunately I have a German friend(well, half German/half Italian) who gets Gol TV and I can go to sports bars too, though you have to fight for a TV and a table among the bar full of NFL/NCAA football fans.   Yeah, so it's not likely I can watch least a game or two of Bundesliga every week like I did last season.  But I will try to watch as much as I can for sure.  I still get some highlight/news kinda shows too. 
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Which provider do you have King? I got Dish, they better be all there ;). I have not had a chance to watch any games yet, been extremely busy. Hopefully by the weekend. 
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 21:35
other than Josue, Zaccardo and Barzagli both from Italy joined the defensive of Wolfsburg. i just noticed the other Brazilian (Juninho somehting?) is missing. Dortmunds cadre this season is pretty good actually and i predict Hamburg and Dortmund will change roles this time
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