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    Posted: 23-Aug-2004 at 17:42

Alexander the Great

Hannibal

Pyrrhos

Napoleon

Jan III Sobieski

Belisarius

Traian

Ney

Marcus Agrippa

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Hannibal

Themistokles

Leonidas

Moltke

Mustafa Kemal

Halil Sami

Fevzi Cakmak

Ismet Inonu

Erwin Rommel

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General Curtis LeMay

General Dwight D Eisenhower

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General James Patton

Orgeneral Cevik Bir

Orgeneal Ismail Hakki Karadayi

Orgeneral Hilmi Ozkok

Orgeneral Fevzi Ucaner

Orgeneral Izzet Aydemir

Orgeneral Semih Sancar

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  Quote ihsan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 14:57
Originally posted by Gallipoli

Orgeneral Cevik Bir

Orgeneal Ismail Hakki Karadayi

Orgeneral Hilmi Ozkok

Orgeneral Fevzi Ucaner

Orgeneral Izzet Aydemir

Orgeneral Semih Sancar

     

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Alexander the Great, Pompey Magnus, Belisarius.
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What Ihsan?
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Favorite Generals:

George Washington

Gustavus Adolphus

William of Orange

Maurice of Nassau

Robert E. Lee

Viscont Turenne

Stonewall Jackson

Joshua Chamberlain

 

Random order, of course

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  Quote ihsan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Aug-2004 at 16:32

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What Ihsan?

Just plain funny

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1. Genghis

2. Turenne

3. Duke of Malborough

4. Hannibal

5. Alexander the Great

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  Quote fastspawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Aug-2004 at 23:32
clovis? no napoleone? No joan of Arc? No Degueclin? No charlemagne? I thought you loved your french commanders?
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1>Manstein (outgunned,outnumbered but achieved some little miracles)

2>Saladin ( hmmm he finally succeeded)

3>Vytautas the Great (greatest warlord from my country)

4>Napaleon( Good commander..but final result wasnt very good)

5>Rommel (most charming commander)

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  Quote Quetzalcoatl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Sep-2004 at 19:34

Originally posted by fastspawn

clovis? no napoleone? No joan of Arc? No Degueclin? No charlemagne? I thought you loved your french commanders?

 Clovis and Charlemagne we don't know much about there campaigns and in detail. So I can't comment on them. Joan of Arc is more about morale and inspiration rather than strategy and tactical warfare. Napoleon was clearly overrated, he inherited the republican armies victorious during the Revolutionary wars as well as it's Marechals and generals. All the tactics he used remind of battles like Tourcoing, it's like he was copying Moreau/Dumouriez and Turenne at the same time. I think he was competent but the merits went to the Marechals mainly. I'm pretty sure the like of Robespierre and Carnot would have done a better job than him if the republic was stable. Robespierre might have been a  tyrant at one time but he was a winner overhall not winner of just a battle but wars. I say Napoleon is deficient in strategy although he is highly tactical. Only Turenne rose above all in France arguably second to Ghenghis Khan perhaps, he pioneered the war of movements and he defeated  German by simply starving them in a war of movement. No wonder Napoleon listed him as one of the greatest.

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Sep-2004 at 20:09

Ghengis Khan

Subotai

Ceaser

Alexander the Great

Hannibal

Shaka

Pachacuti-Inca-Yupanqui

Tariq (who began the conquest of Spain)

Rommel

Charles Martel

Guderian

Bolivar

Zhukov

 

Not in that order

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Oh and Pericles of ancient Greece
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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Sep-2004 at 22:05
I certainly prefer Dumoriez to Napoleon, he didt usurp power and ruin a revolution.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 17:10
Chinese generals

-Cao Cao

-Lui Bei

-Sun Quan

-Zhao Yun

-Dong Zhou

They exist in THREE KINDOM era and they are real
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  Quote ihsan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Sep-2004 at 16:05
Oh people, it's not Ghenghis Khan, it's Chinggis Kha'an. I hate inaccurate names.
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  Quote Chono Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Sep-2004 at 19:29
Jebe (real name Zurgadai) of the Besud tribe, probably Subedei's teacher, did the most hard work in campaigns in China and also in the west.
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Originally posted by ihsan

Oh people, it's not Ghenghis Khan, it's Chinggis Kha'an. I hate inaccurate names.

Well, different spellings are due to different pronounciation, not inaccuracy. For instance, in Swedish, it's spellt 'Djingis' - the pronounciation of that is much closer to the original than if we would begin to spell it 'Chinggis' (which would sound like 'Sheen-giss'). As far as I'm concerned, it's better to duplicate the pronouciation rather than the national spelling.
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  Quote TMPikachu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Sep-2004 at 19:56

Originally posted by Styrbiorn

Originally posted by ihsan

Oh people, it's not Ghenghis Khan, it's Chinggis Kha'an. I hate inaccurate names.

Well, different spellings are due to different pronounciation, not inaccuracy. For instance, in Swedish, it's spellt 'Djingis' - the pronounciation of that is much closer to the original than if we would begin to spell it 'Chinggis' (which would sound like 'Sheen-giss'). As far as I'm concerned, it's better to duplicate the pronouciation rather than the national spelling.

I know how to pronounce it in Chinese, spell it in english, and that's it.

 

Someone put George Washington? I'm pretty sure he lost every battle he lead.

Strong guy though, said to have been able to crack walnuts in one hand. Also Diest, so the story of him praying before battle is just a story.

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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Sep-2004 at 22:17
he didnt loose every battle he had, ever heard of Trenton, or more importantly Yorktown?  His genious is that he denied kingdhip, and refused to capitalize on his power, helping the revolutionary government form.
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