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Maciek
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Topic: Favorite Generals or Commanders Posted: 23-Aug-2004 at 17:42 |
Alexander the Great
Hannibal
Pyrrhos
Napoleon
Jan III Sobieski
Belisarius
Traian
Ney
Marcus Agrippa
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Gallipoli
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Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 09:18 |
Hannibal
Themistokles
Leonidas
Moltke
Mustafa Kemal
Halil Sami
Fevzi Cakmak
Ismet Inonu
Erwin Rommel
General Maxwell Taylor
General Curtis LeMay
General Dwight D Eisenhower
General Omar Bradley
General James Patton
Orgeneral Cevik Bir
Orgeneal Ismail Hakki Karadayi
Orgeneral Hilmi Ozkok
Orgeneral Fevzi Ucaner
Orgeneral Izzet Aydemir
Orgeneral Semih Sancar
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Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 14:57 |
Originally posted by Gallipoli
Orgeneral Cevik Bir
Orgeneal Ismail Hakki Karadayi
Orgeneral Hilmi Ozkok
Orgeneral Fevzi Ucaner
Orgeneral Izzet Aydemir
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Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 00:25 |
Alexander the Great, Pompey Magnus, Belisarius.
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Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 04:39 |
What Ihsan?
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Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 18:25 |
Favorite Generals:
George Washington
Gustavus Adolphus
William of Orange
Maurice of Nassau
Robert E. Lee
Viscont Turenne
Stonewall Jackson
Joshua Chamberlain
Random order, of course
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Posted: 30-Aug-2004 at 16:32 |
Originally posted by Gallipoli
What Ihsan? |
Just plain funny
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Posted: 30-Aug-2004 at 23:12 |
1. Genghis
2. Turenne
3. Duke of Malborough
4. Hannibal
5. Alexander the Great
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Posted: 30-Aug-2004 at 23:32 |
clovis? no napoleone? No joan of Arc? No Degueclin? No charlemagne? I thought you loved your french commanders?
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Posted: 31-Aug-2004 at 02:30 |
1>Manstein (outgunned,outnumbered but achieved some little miracles)
2>Saladin ( hmmm he finally succeeded)
3>Vytautas the Great (greatest warlord from my country)
4>Napaleon( Good commander..but final result wasnt very good)
5>Rommel (most charming commander)
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Posted: 01-Sep-2004 at 19:34 |
Originally posted by fastspawn
clovis? no napoleone? No joan of Arc? No Degueclin? No charlemagne? I thought you loved your french commanders? |
Clovis and Charlemagne we don't know much about there campaigns and in detail. So I can't comment on them. Joan of Arc is more about morale and inspiration rather than strategy and tactical warfare. Napoleon was clearly overrated, he inherited the republican armies victorious during the Revolutionary wars as well as it's Marechals and generals. All the tactics he used remind of battles like Tourcoing, it's like he was copying Moreau/Dumouriez and Turenne at the same time. I think he was competent but the merits went to the Marechals mainly. I'm pretty sure the like of Robespierre and Carnot would have done a better job than him if the republic was stable. Robespierre might have been a tyrant at one time but he was a winner overhall not winner of just a battle but wars. I say Napoleon is deficient in strategy although he is highly tactical. Only Turenne rose above all in France arguably second to Ghenghis Khan perhaps, he pioneered the war of movements and he defeated German by simply starving them in a war of movement. No wonder Napoleon listed him as one of the greatest.
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Posted: 01-Sep-2004 at 20:09 |
Ghengis Khan
Subotai
Ceaser
Alexander the Great
Hannibal
Shaka
Pachacuti-Inca-Yupanqui
Tariq (who began the conquest of Spain)
Rommel
Charles Martel
Guderian
Bolivar
Zhukov
Not in that order
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Posted: 01-Sep-2004 at 20:11 |
Oh and Pericles of ancient Greece
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Posted: 01-Sep-2004 at 22:05 |
I certainly prefer Dumoriez to Napoleon, he didt usurp power and ruin a revolution.
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Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 17:10 |
Chinese generals
-Cao Cao
-Lui Bei
-Sun Quan
-Zhao Yun
-Dong Zhou
They exist in THREE KINDOM era and they are real
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ihsan
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Posted: 05-Sep-2004 at 16:05 |
Oh people, it's not Ghenghis Khan, it's Chinggis Kha'an. I hate inaccurate names.
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Posted: 05-Sep-2004 at 19:29 |
Jebe (real name Zurgadai) of the Besud tribe, probably Subedei's teacher, did the most hard work in campaigns in China and also in the west.
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Posted: 06-Sep-2004 at 14:29 |
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Oh people, it's not Ghenghis Khan, it's Chinggis Kha'an. I hate inaccurate names. |
Well, different spellings are due to different pronounciation, not inaccuracy. For instance, in Swedish, it's spellt 'Djingis' - the pronounciation of that is much closer to the original than if we would begin to spell it 'Chinggis' (which would sound like 'Sheen-giss'). As far as I'm concerned, it's better to duplicate the pronouciation rather than the national spelling.
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Posted: 07-Sep-2004 at 19:56 |
Originally posted by Styrbiorn
Originally posted by ihsan
Oh people, it's not Ghenghis Khan, it's Chinggis Kha'an. I hate inaccurate names. | Well, different spellings are due to different pronounciation, not inaccuracy. For instance, in Swedish, it's spellt 'Djingis' - the pronounciation of that is much closer to the original than if we would begin to spell it 'Chinggis' (which would sound like 'Sheen-giss'). As far as I'm concerned, it's better to duplicate the pronouciation rather than the national spelling. |
I know how to pronounce it in Chinese, spell it in english, and that's it.
Someone put George Washington? I'm pretty sure he lost every battle he lead.
Strong guy though, said to have been able to crack walnuts in one hand. Also Diest, so the story of him praying before battle is just a story.
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Posted: 07-Sep-2004 at 22:17 |
he didnt loose every battle he had, ever heard of Trenton, or more importantly Yorktown? His genious is that he denied kingdhip, and refused to capitalize on his power, helping the revolutionary government form.
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