Favorite Generals or Commanders

  Moctezuma Ilhuicamina I

  Jose Maria Morelos y Pavon.

  Jose Porfirio Diaz Mori.

  Ignacio Zaragoza.

  Doroteo Arango a.k.a Pancho Villa.

  Emiliano Zapata

  Ernesto Guevara a.k.a El Che

Philip II of Macedon

Alexander The Great Macedonian

1. Jeremi Wisniowiecki

2. Jerzy Lubomirsky

3. Hannibal

4. Trajan

5. Hadrian

6. Arnoldo de Tortoga

7. Caesar

8. Jan II Kazimierz

9. Gustaw IV

10. Fredeirck I Barbarossa

I forgot to post mines:

Alp Arslan

Sultan Mehmd II

Sultan Selim I

Mustafa Kemal

Montgomerry

Eisenhower

As a sidenote, are there any relatively obscure generals you like?

I like Kitchner and Lautey because they were some of the only Europeans able to defeat indigenous guerrillas.

I'll plunge deep into the depths of obscurity with this list of some of my favorite US Civil War generals:

Joseph Robert Davis(yes, of relation to the president), Jesse Johnson Finley(shame he was done after Jonesboro), and George Earl Maney(though Im left wondering if he was releived in 1864...).

Yes.

BTW, I'm REALLY into the Civil War, so pm me sometime so we can talk.

Sure thing.  If you ever want to discuss the Civil War with me, feel free to do so via PM or on the Imperial Age board.

  More info about Morelos:

(1765-1815)

source:http://www.elbalero.gob.mx/pages_kids/history/biograp hies/biomorelos_kids.html

Jose Maria Morelos y Pavon could scarcely walk because of the shackles on his legs. His eyes were bandaged with a white handkerchief. The Royalist commander made a mark on the ground with his sword and ordered the prisoner placed there.

"Must I kneel here?" Morelos asked.

Father Salazar, who had heard the victim's final confession moments before, answered, "Yes, here."

Morelos knelt. Just a few weeks earlier, the liberal priest had ruled the roost in Southwest Mexico. It was he who put Royalists to death, not the other way around. A key player in Mexico's revolutionary war against Spain, he was a brilliant leader who won many battles. It was Morelos who called Mexico's first Congress and issued its first constitution.

When government forces surprised Morelos and his troops, the priest bravely allowed himself to be captured so that other revolutionary leaders could escape. Jose was tried before the inquisition and removed from the priesthood with degrading ceremonies. Among the accusations against him was heresy. The churchmen declared that Jose was a heretic (one who believes false doctrine), an apostate (one who falls away from the truth), an atheist, a materialist, a Deist (one who believes in an impersonal, distant God but not Christ), a libertine (he had three children out of wedlock), a vile seducer, a hypocrite and a traitor. Although Jose andthe revolutionaries had declared that Catholicism was to be the only religion permitted in their new nation, he was declared an implacable enemy of Christianity.

The government of Mexico had no intention, however, of showing mercy to such a trouble-maker. Morelos�s explanations did not go over well. He said that he did not consider King Ferdinand VII the true king of Mexico, since Ferdinand had been a captive in France under Napoleon and had acted as a puppet of the French. The judges sentenced him to death. Morelos was blindfolded and shackled on this day, December 22, 1815.

He knelt down as ordered. Raising his head in prayer he said: "Lord, you know if I have done well; if ill, I implore your infinite mercy."

At the officer's command, the troops fired. Morelos crumpled forward under the impact of four bullets. But the rebel priest was not dead. The officer had to order a second volley. As the second blast of lead slammed into him, Morelos finally died.

When Mexico gained its independence, it named a state for him and his remains were returned to Mexico from Spain in 1910, during the centennial anniversary of Mexico�s Independence and where placed in the Cathedral at Mexico City.

In 1828, his birthplace, Valladolid, was renamed Morelia, and in 1869, Benito Ju�rez decreed the creation of the state bearing his name.

For me, the best is Timur.

After him, there are: Babur, Napoleon, Shapur, Mahmud of Ghazni, Ban Chao, Subota� and Djebe, Bayezid I, BayBars, Cyrus II, Hannibal.