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    Posted: 29-Jul-2008 at 17:41
Which one do you think would win, on the ground in space, or in a ship to ship boarding attack?.  


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  Quote Seko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jul-2008 at 17:53
When do you think Count Belisarius will stop turning AE into his own playground?
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Certainly 40k - genetically engineered supersoldiers (If it's the imperium at least) versus phasers? Nope
 
This should really be in the tavern or modern culture, or gaming etc...


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  Quote Illirac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jul-2008 at 17:58
Originally posted by Seko

When do you think Count Belisarius will stop turning AE into his own playground?


The day someone will invent an arena (a computer game of course) where will fight anything and everything he wants to
For too long I've been parched of thirst and unable to quench it.
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  Quote Count Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jul-2008 at 19:01
I hope I'm alive to see it


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  Quote Count Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Aug-2008 at 21:01
And Seko I'm sorry I thought I was posting this thread in the tavern.


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  Quote Władysław Warnencz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Aug-2008 at 21:29
40 000 of course! It is far more brutal and war-oriented game with more original and realistic units,capable of defeating probably any other type of warriors we have seen in computer games or movies.
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  Quote Count Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Aug-2008 at 00:24

Yeah but you see Picard blow up the borg all the time, and Q and the organians could handle the psykers, and the people from star trek always a technobabble solution to their problems.   



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The force will destroy those Warhammy people.
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So will switching off the machine.
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  Quote Aster Thrax Eupator Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Aug-2008 at 12:24
Yes, Starfleet does have loads of vessels, but those are about 300 years from now, and the imperium of man in 40K, well, that's lasted for millenia and has an entire society geared towards war. Moreover, can you imagine phasers trying to hurt a space marine? The imperium has numbers and technology. Q is just cheating - he's essentially god!

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  Quote Count Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Aug-2008 at 14:41
But phasers strip away atoms and since spce marine armor isn't desinge t o with stand that sort of thing it would seriously injure said space marine if it didn't kill him outright (I've always wondered why there were no female spce marines, and why the space marines didn't marry or have children), and Q would have to handle the warhammer gods and the pykers, and the Wrahammer imperium is geared toward war not much else, whereas the federation has all kinds of different technology's and they have fought countless wars and won them, and star trek beats star wars easy, their ships can go faster than the speed of light, whereas star wars ships can only go at the speed of light. Now enough on the imperium, how about star trek vs. Chaos space marines.


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  Quote Aster Thrax Eupator Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Aug-2008 at 03:05
Yes, but the federation has only lasted for about 300 years, whilst all of the races in the warhammer 40'000 universe have lasted countless millenia, and their technology is frankly far more advanced (the immaterium allows ships to almost instantly jump across the galaxy like the borg transwarp conduits in voyager). Moreover, the federation and most of the other races in the Star Trek universe don't really have the numbers - Chaos has innumerable cultists, admittedly a few traitor legions, and as many creatures as the warp can muster. Not so much with the Tau, Necrons or Eldar, but think about the Tyrannids, Imperium and Orks - there are just so many of them! They would gradually wear down the fabric of the federation or any other state in the Star Trek universe. Moreover, think about it - the states in 40K are just so much larger and can just make more troops - and despite phasers, well, an emperor class imperial fleet battleship versus a galaxy class starship - the former is...much...bigger! Moreover, Q doesn't really care about fighting for any side - I think he'd rather be off somewhere doing stupid random stuff. 
 
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EDIT: Ship to ship boarding attack - certainly 40K: Terminators with teleporters versus Empire troops or Starfleet security forces? Not a chance!


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  Quote Count Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Aug-2008 at 03:25
They could just beam them up and then beam each of their atoms out in to space, and beam the daemons back in to the warp and the organians would help if their survival was at stake and you forgot the new sovereign class ships, and the defiant, and the eldar might join the federation and marry into the vulcans and thus preserve their race and the federaton gets the eldar craftwolds and technology. 


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  Quote Aster Thrax Eupator Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Aug-2008 at 23:06
True, but the Eldar are few and far between, divided into numerous craftworlds and, like most of the races in the warhammer 40'000 universe, probably quite xenophobic and supremist. I don't think that the "prime directive" point of view of the federation and their peaceful ideology would attract many in the Warhammer 40'000 universe. Also, just like Star Trek has some technobabble solution to problems, Warhammer 40'000 will have a similar one as well. One point for the federation - technology is stagnant in the 40K universe, whereas in the Federation it's constantly evolving. The Star Trek and Star Wars universes also have genetically engineered troops such as the clone troops, the suliban and the Jem Ha'dar, but probably not in the vast amount of numbers (both imperial adeptus artestes/space marines, traitor chaos marines and other races' modified troops).
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  Quote Count Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 04:14
I think the eldar and the vulcans would get along just fine. And the space marines wouldn't do so well against the borg, And if the federation can defeat the borg they shouldn't have a problem with the imperium.


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  Quote Balaam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 07:41
You can't beat the Imperium, its just impossible.
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  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 12:06
I'll say that the Imperial Starfleet will win everday.
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  Quote Count Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 15:26
Yeah right, Against the space marines? and you can beat the imperium all they've got is artillery shells and plasma, which federation shields can shrug off with ease.  


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  Quote Aster Thrax Eupator Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 22:02
Count - look at the other weapons that they've got though - the Imperium has got loads of particle weapons (Las guns, Multi-Meltas, Inferno guns etc?) it's just that loads of them are not used because of the sheer size of the imperium!
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