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    Posted: 29-Jul-2008 at 11:58
You mean besides the fact they are both unintelligable?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jul-2008 at 15:19
Originally posted by Sparten

You mean besides the fact they are both unintelligable?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Feb-2014 at 04:51
Originally posted by Al Jassas

All scottish people originally came from Ireland in the 10th or 11th century, so basically, they are one and the same. It is no surprise that you will find an Irish Kennedy and a Scottish Kennedy but who is the original and who is the branch only God knows.

 

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No they didn't. The Irish began settling in Scotland during 400CE. St Columba had a monastery on Iona by that time. It was largely due to his ministry that the Scots were converted to Christianity.

Many Irish names can be found in Scotland, and they actually originated in Ireland. Scotland also partially adopted the Irish naming custom of, for example, Con mac Domnhail, (altered to Donald) to become Con, son of Donald or MacDonald.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Feb-2014 at 05:05
There is so much misinformation on this thread that I don't really know where to start.

The original religion of Ireland was not Catholicism, just Christianity, the Church of Ireland.

It then aligned with the Roman Catholic Church.

Protestantism came to Ireland with the English Plantations, commencing in about 1550. This was a system of taking the best land from the Irish, by force, and giving it to Scots and English aristocracy who in turn brought out their own people to work the land.

Ireland suffered the consequences of Henry VIII's pogrom against the Catholics, and Ireland was forced to become Protestant (Anglican Church or the Church of England).

Over the centuries, the Irish revolted against the English many times, on the basis that their religion had been taken from them, their land had been taken, and, by the 1698 Penal Laws, their whole culture was denied them, even their Celtic names.

They gained some minor concessions over time, but religion became the symbol of the oppressors (Protestant England) over the oppressed (Catholic Irish).

In Northern Ireland, there is still a religious tension from historic times, but in the Republic of Ireland, the religions live side by side without any problems.
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