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"Disarming"
Actually Meant - Arming of Srebrenica
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When Bosnian Muslims signed 11 point agreement to make Srebrenica into a safe zone, they did not think for a minute how to honor the written agreement. "Demilitarization" and "disarming" in their heads meant they can now complete arming besieged enclave and bring it to the level of armaments equal to other Muslim units in Bosnia. With their Western masters' supervision and approval they will only need time to sneak enough weapons to complete the process.
"Safe zone" meant that they are now safe to continue to attack, pillage and murder in the nearby Christian Serb villages.
The Hague "court"
NATO's tool of subjugation 

Time-Life book "The Balkans" says that Turks rulled Balkans by atrocity. In order to subdue the Christian population the Turks practiced "slaughter of the leaders" ("secha knezheva" in Serbo-Croatian). NATO conqueror of the Balkans will follow that model.
One important NATO tool for subjugation and humiliation of the conquered Serbian lands is the "war crime" tribunal purposely located at the Hague to give it an image of an "international" institution. In reality, the Hague "tribunal" is bloody cyrcus designed to exonerate the culprits (the NATO/Islam fundamentalist alliance) and to punish the victim (bombed and cleansed Serbs of Yugoslavia). Every high ranking Serbian politician, every high ranking Serbian officer and every Serb of importance was declared a war criminal - a clear copy of the Ottoman "slaughter of the leaders" method of subjugation.
According to secret lists NATO/Gestapo hunts and assassinates some Serbs - usually those who have strong personality. Some of these people are ambushed and murdered right on the street, or in front of their houses, in full view of their family and children. Dragan Gagovic, for example, was murdered in his private car, on the highway. The car was filled with children.
Other Serbs, who Gestapo considers old or weak, are kidnapped and tortured, then if they do not cooperate murdered right in the Hague dungeon, at Scheveningen, a building that the original Gestapo used to torture and murder Dutch resistance fighters during WWII. The tephlon court, which went through countless scandals unscatched, was even able to finish off one of the original Gestapo jobs. As a small Serbian child, Doctor Kovacevic survived infamous concentration camp Jasenovac, only to end his life in the newest New World Order concentration camp at the Hague.
None of the Bosnian Muslim generals (obviously not to mention NATO generals or politicians) was declared a war criminal. While the Serbian generals rot in the dungeon, the Bosnian Muslim generals are invited to the anti-Serb fiesta as honorary guests. They are treated with utmost, sometimes ridiculous politeness and all they say as witnesses is said out of their own free will.
The stage 

Here presented quotes all come from the Hague web site. Whenever, in Western "democracies," there is a need to lie to the public, an investigative commission is formed. The commission (or here "international tribunal") then has a task to dump so much "information," so everyone is overwhelmed with it - and the facts are lost. Here, we (only) abbreviated the text. The titles are also ours. Look for the pointers to the original text sitting on the "UN" site at the bottom of this page.
Actors:
Various NATO-paid "judges"
Witnesses of the prosecution, Bosnian Muslim generals:
General Sefer Halilovic - the highest rank Bosnian Muslim General, signator to April 17, 1993, demilitarization of Srebrenica agreement
General Enver Hadzihasanovic - In charge of Eastern Bosnia, which includes Srebrenica
[Serbian] General Radislav Krstic, already executed by the Western media as "massacre general."
Defense council of General Krstic, Mr. Petrusic
General Krstic was on one of those Kafkaesque, secret, "sealed indictments," Serb-hunt lists. He learned about the fact only when he was snatched from his car, on December 3, 1998. It was an American SFOR [NATO] troops operation. General Krstic was arrested together with his driver(!!!) and brought, by special flight to the Hague dungeons. At the time general Krstic was cooperating with the NATO occupation force. He sat on the Joint Military Commission, a body formed by the NATO conquerors. He was even helping clean low-tech mines round Bosnia so NATO can exercise its high-tech superiority.
NATO paid court had high hopes that the general, who is an amputee (does not have one leg) would succumb to the torture and participate in NATO dungeon schemes geared to put the entire blame of the civil wars in Bosnia to the highest Bosnian Serb leadership: President Karadzic and general Mladic.
The hearings in question was held on April 5 and 6, 2001, two and half years after general Krstic's kidnap.
Muslim generals admit 

You can accuse Serbs
in a closed session here, you know. 
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Thursday, 5 April 2001
The Hague Proceedings, starting on page 9439:
JUDGE RODRIGUES: [Interpretation] Before anything else is said, in view of your past military responsibilities and your current political responsibilities, I should like to ask you whether it is appropriate for me to address you as General, Deputy, or Mr. Minister, or simply as Mr. Halilovic? What do you prefer?
WITNESS SEFER HALILOVIC: Whatever you find easiest, Your Honour.
JUDGE RODRIGUES: [Interpretation] Perhaps "General Halilovic" is the best. Fine, then...
First of all, thank you for coming... I don't doubt that in view of responsibilities, you are a very busy man... The hearing is, in principle, held in public, and we would like to keep it public as much as possible. However, if you should feel it necessary, you can ask the Chamber to make a ruling to go into private session, or even into closed session, which in practice means that during the duration of the private session, the public will not hear your statements, nor any -- and the transcript of your testimony will not be made public...
General Sefer Halilovic: ...[T]he position I held in the [Muslim] army of the Republic of Bosnia-Herzegovina; that is, until 8th of June, 1993, I was Chief of Staff of the Main Staff of the army of Bosnia-Herzegovina and member of the presidency of the Republic of Bosnia-Herzegovina. In that period, I was actively in command of the army of the Republic of Bosnia-Herzegovina, and I took part in the negotiations on the demilitarisation of Srebrenica and Zepa in April and May 1993. From the 8th of June, 1993, the position of the command of the Main Staff was introduced in the [Muslim] army of Bosnia-Herzegovina, and I held that position until November the 1st, 1993.

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"Multiethnic" Bosnia under Muslims - gone
time for Western Christians to save Muslim state 
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The same, pages 9445, 9446:
Muslim General, Sefer Halilovic: I took part in the negotiations on the demilitarisation of Srebrenica and Zepa in April and May 1993. And for the situation to be clearer to you, ... at the same time as the [Serbs attacked Muslims in Drina river region] ... the Bosnian Croats [attacked Muslims] on upper Vakuf and the valley of the river Neretva and certain regions of Central Bosnia.
The attack was -- they were coordinated by the Serbs and Croats.
I would like to remind you of this and then go on to the demilitarisation agreement...
The negotiations took place on the 18th of April at the Sarajevo airport, but before that, it was announced from [NATO/French Legion] General Morillon as the commander of UNPROFOR in Bosnia-Herzegovina. On the 30th of March, 1993, I received a letter which announced that UNPROFOR [i.e. NATO] units were going to be deployed within the ... Srebrenica enclave, ... and there was initiative for this already in February, and this was given by [Muslim] President Izetbegovic as a sign of [NATO's] goodwill.
The first agreement was signed on the 17th of April, 1993, at the Sarajevo airport. I and General Mladic signed it in the presence of General Wahlgren as the UNPROFOR representative.

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NATO and Muslims lie together
twisting the semantics of the agreement
to its OPPOSITE... 
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The same, pp 9446, 9448:
Muslim General, Sefer Halilovic: I did, ... succeed in coming by one particular document, which was compiled by my deputy, General Jovan Divjak, and which was addressed to the command of the [Muslim] 2nd Corps [in charge of Eastern Bosnia] and the command of Naser Oric in Srebrenica. The document was compiled on the 20th of April, 1993, which testifies to the fact that it was after the agreement of the 17th of April [1943], after the signing of the agreement. Negotiations continued, but at a lower level, not at the level of commanders...
General Divjak goes on to explain that in Srebrenica there should be no armed persons, soldiers, or reserve policemen, and states that they should be pulled out of the town [only!!!] and that the defence lines should be strengthened [!!!]. He takes note that we have the absolute support of General Morillon and General Wahlgren [to warp the meaning that way], and in one particular sentence he says, and I quote: "Mladic has signed an agreement of that kind, and it is his problem that he doesn't know what it means."

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Wow! You are General Mladic. When you signed an agreement with your already defeated opponent that they should disarm in Srebrenica and form a UN protected "safe zone" - you obviously meant that they should disarm in buildings, in kitchens and bedrooms. Obviously they should arm themselves outside of the houses - in the yards and fields!? Can you believe that?
Orwellian double-speak: "War is peace." 
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The same, pp 9448, 9449:
Muslim General, Sefer Halilovic: [NATO] General Morillon insisted that the weapons be surrendered to him, or rather, to UNPROFOR, and we ourselves asked that the area of the urban -- the urban area [only!] of Srebrenica be demilitarised and that the units be pulled out of the urban area, because Srebrenica and Zepa had already been proclaimed safe areas.
On the 8th of May, sometime after midnight - more exactly, around 2.00 a.m. - an [additional] agreement was signed on the demilitarisation of Srebrenica and Zepa, and in the spirit of the negotiations and in the spirit of the agreement that we signed, I informed the command of the 1st and 2nd Corps and, of course, the command of the defence of Srebrenica.
The agreement envisaged the withdrawal of the infantry units [both Serb and Muslim] one and a half kilometres away from the confrontation line, line of contact, which the forces of the Bosnian Serbs never did.

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The whole Srebrenica enclave, still in Muslim hands, according to Western media was one and half kilometer wide and four kilometers long. In other words, according to this Muslim general's admission, even this way, the Muslims were to completely withdraw armed forces from Srebrenica.
Fake disarmament and...
get ready to launch an attack. 
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The same, pp 9466, 9468:
Defense council of General Krstic, Mr. Petrusic: In that conversation that [high Muslim official Rusmir Mahmut Cehajic and] you had, Mr. Oric [Srebrenica Muslim war criminal] states, I quote, "At any time of day and night from the very beginning of the war up until June 1993, until the arrival of [Muslim General] Delic, I had contact with commander Sefer through radio line, radio communication. He was the only person who knew exactly what was happening. And when the order on demilitarisation of the town itself was issued, the commander [General Halilovic] explained to me that we should hand over only non-functional and faulty weaponry, the ones that we could not hide, heavy weapons, which is what I did. We remained deployed along the lines and the weapons were still with us." Is that correct, General?
General Sefer Halilovic: The agreement on the demilitarisation of Srebrenica and Zepa envisaged the demilitarisation of the urban areas of those two towns and the pull-out of all personnel from the area. After I returned from the airport [from the point of negotiations] on the 9th of May, I issued an order specifying that not a single piece of weaponry and equipment should be handed over because we had some very bad experience to that effect, that is, with very slow and inefficient decisions by the International Community [one of NATO's nicknames]. So yes, you're quite correct.
Mr. Petrusic: Is it true that Mr. Oric stated on that occasion that all of the weaponry which had been handed over was not usable and was faulty, and that all other weapons, the ones that were functional, were still kept?
General Sefer Halilovic: According to the agreement on the demilitarisation of the urban area of Srebrenica and Zepa, we were not obliged to surrender anything.
But it is true that I had ordered, if they had to surrender something, that they should surrender what was faulty.
Mr. Petrusic: General, in your book "Failed Strategy" published in 1998, you also say, I quote, "I returned to headquarters and issued an order to Srebrenica and Zepa that not a single functional piece of weaponry should be handed over or a single usable bullet. After that, I went to see [Islam fundamentalist leader of Bosnian Muslims, Alija] Izetbegovic and was given congratulations for success."
General, you're talking about the urban area; however, clearly your order did not apply to the urban area regarding the surrender of equipment and weaponry.
General Sefer Halilovic: You must distinguish between the safe area and the demilitarised zone. According to the agreement, the demilitarised zone covers the urban area of Srebrenica and Zepa and what can be seen from the town itself, and within that zone, no armed personnel or military equipment were permitted.
Therefore, my order was to pull out from that area, pursuant to the agreement, all armed personnel and military equipment and, of course, to preserve and retain those weapons that we could use should we *launch an attack*, if that should prove necessary.

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Now that we clear that semantic difficulty in understanding that demilitarization zone should be the one where you retain your weaponry and "safe zone" is a place from which it is safe to launch an attack (all of which is sanctioned by NATO allies pretending to be neutral) it is now time to find ways how to arm the demilitarized zone. You need arms and ammunition for all those attacks.
Of course, if Serbs were to attack this "demilitarized zone" it would be a war crime. It would be no less than genocide!
It takes time
to arm disarmed zone 

Arming of "demilitarized zone" Srebrenica was a task of another Bosnian Muslim general. Here is his testimony at the same stage on April 5 and 6, 2001. General Enver Hadzihasanovic was first JNA ("Jugoslovenska Narodna Armija" = Yugoslav People's Army) general. Yugoslav Communist generals were privileged people. They had large, lavish flats for free and hefty salaries to match it all. The only thing they had to do is to give their word of honor, usually done in a lavish ceremony, to protect "sovereignty and territorial integrity of Yugoslav Federation." After receiving such benefits, these two generals betrayed the country of their birth, multiethnic Yugoslavia, sided with foreign invader (NATO) and did their best to dismantle, partition and hand over to foreign troops, the country they pledged to defend.
But, at least, General Hadzihasanovic wanted to keep old JNA standards when it came to arming Muslim secessionists. He would do his best to keep demilitarized Srebrenica armed in accordance to these standards. He did not know better. This is what he learned in JNA.
5.803 armed men
in demilitarized Srebrenica. 
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Thursday, 5 April 2001
The Hague Proceedings, starting on page 9505:
JUDGE RODRIGUES: [Interpretation] So, General Hadzihasanovic, let me say for the record, that is, let me ask you for the record to spell out your name.
WITNESS HADZIHASANOVIC: My name is Enver Hadzihasanovic, and I'm a retired army General... I am a General of the federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, retired, a retired General.
Judge Rodrigues: [Interpretation] Before we proceed with your testimony, properly speaking, let me first of all thank you on behalf of the Chamber for having responded to the summons we issued for you, and for having accepted to place yourself at our disposal by appearing before the Chamber in this case. Thank you very much for the very detailed letter that you addressed to the Chamber with a number of attachments. ...General, please proceed.
General Enver Hadzihasanovic: Just to confirm, the documents that I'm going to comment on are the product of the original documents. They are taken from the original documents that went to Srebrenica. According to those documents, the 28th Division in Srebrenica should have had, in total, 5.685 men. That is the total, and it is shown here at the bottom of this column. In actual fact, in Srebrenica it had 5.803 men, and the percentage was 102 per cent, which can be seen down here.
On this part of the diagram, you see the structure and organisation of the 28th Division itself in Srebrenica, without the brigade from Zepa. The request by the General Staff of the army was that each unit should have 110-per-cent manpower, a strength of 110 per cent.
Here you see that the percentage is 102, but including the Zepa Brigade, which had more men, then the percentage would be 108 per cent, was within allowed limits.

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Arming Srebrenica Muslims
in accordance to
Yugoslav Fedreal Army standards 
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Thursday, 5 April 2001
The Hague Proceedings, page 9520:
JUDGE RODRIGUES: [Interpretation] This will be document C-3. Perhaps, General, instead of analysing the details on the basis of the table, you could perhaps give us an idea of a more general nature....
General Enver Hadzihasanovic: Yes.... [Y]ou can use this table because these indices and this data was taken from the standards that were applicable in the former JNA [Jugoslovenska Narodna Armija = Yugoslav People's Army, the Federal Arm force of ex-Yugoslavia], and they emerge from the standards for the resources and equipment that I am talking about.

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Not armed enough! 
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Thursday, 5 April 2001
The Hague Proceedings, starting on page 9515:
General Enver Hadzihasanovic: Document C-2 relates to what was necessary, according to the requests made by the division, what they should have had, and the actual state of affairs, that is to say, what the division in Srebrenica actually disposed of, actually had in its possession.
We enumerate the basic types of weaponry which it should have had, so that pistols, for example, in the case of pistols, the division in Srebrenica should have had 1.184 -- no. No. It doesn't seem to be right. I apologise. It's difficult for me to follow on the monitor... what they actually had was 62. Automatic rifles, they should have had 4.109 of them; in actual fact, they had 1.947, or 46 per cent. Sniper rifles, they should have had 128, and in actual fact they only had 13. Submachine-gun, they should have had 326; they actually had 27. Machine-guns, they should have had 90 -- no, 83; in actual fact, they had 15. Mortars, 60-millimetre ones, they should have had 98; in actual fact, they only had 12. 82-millimetre mortars, 36; they had 5. 120-millimetre mortar, they should have had 36; they had none, in actual fact. Hand grenades, hand launchers, 16 they should have had, but they just had 9. Hand-held rocket launchers, that was. Recoilless guns, 82 millimetres, they should have had 36; they had 4. Hand-held rocket launchers of the Zolja type, they should have had 478; they had 68. Anti-armour Osa-type launchers, they should have had 143; they had none. Rocket launchers, hand-held armoured, 9-K-11, they should have had 18; they had none. A light launcher of the Fagot type, 9-K-11-F, they should have had 15 of those; they just had 1. Anti-missile rockets, they should have had 15; they didn't have 1. Anti-aircraft guns of the 20-millimetre type, one barrel, they should have had 20. In actual fact, they only had 4. Along with this column, we have the percentages which you can look at.
So that was the actual situation in Srebrenica as to what it should have been on the basis of these documents.

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Let us repeat it to you. "Safe heaven" Srebrenica after being "demilitarized" had 5,803 armed Muslims equipped like this:
Pistols - 62.
Automatic rifles - 1.947
Sniper rifles - 13
Submachine-guns - 27
Machine-guns - 15
Mortars, 60-millimetre ones - 12.
82-millimetre mortars - 5
Hand grenades, hand launchers, 16 - 9
Recoilless guns, 82 millimetres - 4.
Hand-held rocket launchers of the Zolja type - 68
Anti-armour Osa-type launchers - one
Light launcher of the Fagot type, 9-K-11-F, - one
Anti-missile rockets - one
Anti-aircraft guns of the 20-millimetre type, one barrel - 4.
Time and UN helicopters needed 
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Thursday, 5 April 2001
The same, pp 9518 - 9523:
General Enver Hadzihasanovic: n Srebrenica, the overall situation was highly complex and extremely difficult, both with respect to the army and the people... [T]here was every indication that in Srebrenica, the worst things could be expected, that people could just leave without thinking, to leave a situation that was untenable for them. And we tried to organise the army [in Srebrenica] and to tell the people that we, ourselves, wanted to take steps to calm the situation down until a final, better solution was -- had been come up with.
And so at the request of the division and according to our own assessments, we wanted to help the situation in the army by sending them more resources and to enable that particular division,... to ensure its combat readiness...
We knew that we weren't -- would not be able to furnish the division with what it needed quickly because we were not able to get the materiel and resources to them. Our first attempt was to introduce the communication devices, and we decided to do that on the ground, on land, with a certain number of men that we had at our disposal. But that didn't prove successful. The people that we dispatched, that we sent, were sent into a risky situation. They risked being captured and ultimately liquidated if captured. So it was a high-risk situation for the men.
And then we decided to do this with the modest means we had at our disposal and the number of helicopters we had at our disposal, the few helicopters we had. In our estimations, this would be a difficult task and would require a lot of time... And we sent ten helicopters. The structure of the helicopters included some weapons and some ammunition, but they were also carrying clothing and sanitary material. They also transported a certain number of doctors and brought out some seriously wounded people and people that were supposed to go on for further [obviously military] education.
It was probably a signal to the army of Republika Srpska that something was afoot and that they could expect some combat operations...
I have documents here which indicate how much time we would have needed and how many tons of cargo would have been necessary for the division to receive basic resources, that is to say, ammunition for their rifles, one combat kit for mortars and for the anti-armoured devices, and for everything that they were lacking, in fact. ...
For the men to have just one meal a day, a cold ration, dry ration, which each soldier has to carry with him when he is on an assignment, we would have to have sent, to supply only that one dry ration, which was two kilograms, an extra 11.6 tons would have had to be transported to ensure two kilograms per man per day.
When we're talking about clothing...
When we saw how many flights a helicopter would have had to make, this was an enormous number, and I show this on my next diagram.
[But] we achieved our objective. The situation in Srebrenica was calmed down, the people believed in the [Muslim] army more,... we had achieved one of our goals completely, that is to say, the soldiers [in Srebrenica] formed formational structures, they were established, and we started to supply them with the materiel they needed in addition to what they already had.

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They needed time to arm to the teeth the "demilitarized zone" - right in front of Serbian noses. As we will see, at some point the time run out on Bill Clinton. In August 1995, he needed at least 5,000 Muslim martyrs so he can use it as a pretext for ethnic cleansing of Serbs far and wide. He needed this "Balkan thing" over with well before his upcoming re-elections in 1996.
The signed agreement means...
exactly NOTHING! 

Back to General Halilovic, how does he feel about all this hellicoptering around? Is it again, as it was during four centuries of Turkish rule by atrocity, that it is not only OK, but actually advisable to lie to the infidels?
It is morally right to breach agreements
signed with infadels. 
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Thursday, 5 April 2001
The same, pages 9468, 9469:
Council Petrusic to General Halilovic: General, you are familiar with the decision of the United Nations which had a no-fly zone envisaged.
Muslim General, Sefer Halilovic: Yes, yes, certainly. Flights were prohibited for military purposes, but... It was medical material that was transported more [sic!] than combat equipment.
Council Petrusic: General,... I'm talking to you about aircraft of the army of Bosnia-Herzegovina or aircraft of the civilian authorities of Bosnia-Herzegovina without the approval of the United Nations. Was that a violation of the resolution?
General Halilovic: Partially yes, because we were transported -- transporting food and medicaments mostly, but partially, yes.
Council Petrusic: Is it a violation if ammunition were transported by means of those aircraft and helicopters? Will you answer that question, please, with a yes or no.
General Halilovic: In view of the fact that we were under an embargo and our hands were tied, I think not. Morally, no; legally, one could discuss it.
Council Petrusic: Naser Oric, General, says in this newspaper [Muslim controlled] Oslobodenje, an interview that you attended as did Mr. Mahmut Cehajic, that [Muslim General] Sefer sent six helicopters with ammunition. Is that correct, General?
General Halilovic: It is not correct. It is correct that I sent eight helicopters with ammunition, and if I could have, I would have sent 180.
Council Petrusic: General, you were violating the provisions of the United Nations resolution.
General Halilovic: The legal norms of the United Nations also guarantee the right to defence.

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It is the same, once and again - if you inhabit "higher moral ground" (here provided by lying Western media, a party to the conflict) - then you are allowed to do whatever you please. Signed, UN agreements mean nothing. If you have an ally with so many airplane carriers and nuclear submarines - you are always right!
What terrorist activities...?
Go complain to my boss. 
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Thursday, 5 April 2001
The same, pages 9464, 9465:
Council Petrusic to General Halilovic: General, as a high-ranking officer of the former JNA and the BH [Bosnian Muslim] army, do you think that any conduct of terrorist activities in spring of that year, that is, terrorist activities from the enclave, from the protected area and into the Serbian-held territory, against Serbian-held positions, was something that could trigger offensive action by the VRS [Bosnian Serb Army] towards the area of the enclave, towards the safe area?
Muslim General, Sefer Halilovic: If there had indeed been terrorist activities from the enclave, I consider it to be a mistake...
Council Petrusic: General, you are one of the signatories of the agreement on demilitarisation. I should like to know -- and of course, you are also familiar with the rights and duties which during that period of time you yourself and, later on, those who succeeded you on your functions, members of the BH army, had to respect. Does that agreement envisage any sanctions for either of the parties in case of non-compliance with the agreement?
General Halilovic: While I was still a member of the BH army, the agreement was complied with in its entirety.
Council Petrusic: General, do you have any knowledge whether in the spring and summer of 1995 the said agreement was honoured and complied with?
General Halilovic: Under the assumption that one single terrorist activity had been conducted, then one was supposed to request that the Security Council of the United Nations to withdraw the agreement concerning the safe area.

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Secretly supplying weapons
while pretending to keep peace 
[T]he Security Council adopted resolution 713 on 25 September 1991, [the] document... requested every member state to stop supplying weapons and military goods to the warring [Balkan] factions... Nonetheless, all the warring factions attempted to purchase weapons, ammunition and military equipment from abroad and to import them into the region. The question now is what military impact these secret weapons supplies had on the events in Yugoslavia...
The supply of arms to the warring factions also affected the stability in the region, and in many cases inflamed the armed conflict. It is no coincidence that military equipment was often delivered a few weeks before the start of new large-scale offensives... This often went according to a fixed pattern: clandestine supplies; training, possibly supervised by instructors, for operating the new weapons; and subsequently the start of military offensives. Logically this could lead, or did lead, to situations in which UN troops were put in immediate mortal danger...
[T]he secret operations are of interest because various statements pointed to the conclusion that the clandestine supplies usually led to rapid transit to the eastern enclaves, such as Srebrenica and Zepa. The VRS [Bosnian Serb Army] complained that the supply of new weapons usually facilitated new sorties from the enclaves into Bosnian-Serb villages and military positions, which in turn provoked a response from the VRS. This action-reaction cycle again put UNPROFOR troops in danger. In the enclaves, the ABiH [Bosnian Muslim Army] actually all too often used the [UN] Observation Posts (Ops) as a cover in military actions against the VRS. It is important to reconstruct the secret arms supplies from Iran via the "Croatian pipeline" and the Black Flights to [Muslim held town of] Tuzla, because this will make clear that different NATO member states had different political and military views on the possible consequences for the UNPROFOR troops on the ground.
 
 
As we will see, Pentagon supplied weapons to Bosnian Muslim fanatics, while the Dutch (but also French and British) NATO troops were sitting on the ground as a clear target to Bosnian Serb retaliation. Obviously, the American NATO leadership did not care about the destiny of non-American allies on the ground. The non-Americans were expendable.
This seems to be the only concern of the Dutch researchers. They do not venture to talk about the moral implications of the American support to Al Qaida geared toward cleansing and annihillation of a group of European Christians, which the Serbs are.
As is true with the entire civil war in Yugoslavia, the anti-Serb activity was first initiated by German-Catholic axis:
Germans force Croats
to transfer arms to Bosnian mujahedin 
On 4 September 1992, the CIA discovered an Iran Air Boeing 747 at Zagreb airport. Subsequent investigation revealed that the jumbo jet was loaded with weapons, ammunition, anti-tank rockets, communication equipment and other military equipment, such as uniforms and helmets, destined for the ABiH [Bosnian Muslim Army] in Bosnia. [Croat] President Tudjman informed [British] mediator Lord Owen accordingly... The Bush administration protested in Zagreb and the arms were confiscated, after which Croatia appeared to stop all further clandestine arms transport via Zagreb.
On 29-30 October 1992, Bosnian President Izetbegovic paid a visit to Teheran and entered into an agreement according to which Iran would again attempt to supply necessary goods via Zagreb. Turkey and Saudi Arabia also offered assistance but attached the condition that Izetbegovic should not request assistance from Iran. This did not dissuade the Bosnian from reaching an agreement with Teheran... After Croatia had normalized its diplomatic relations with Iran in April 1992, it was represented in Teheran by the Croatian Muslim Osman Muftic, who elaborated the details of the agreement with the Bosnian ambassador in Teheran, Omer Behmen, and a confidant of Izetbegovic, Hasan Cengic.
[Only a month after the first, unsuccessful, covert arms shipment:] On 1 November 1992, an Iranian Boeing 747 landed in Zagreb with sixty tons of "humanitarian goods". A few days later the Iranian religious leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei donated $3.3 million to Sarajevo. At the end of November, the Iranian Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ali Akbar Velayati, paid a visit to Zagreb to discuss the further logistical details. This was surprising, because in this period there was heavy fighting between Croatia and Bosnia.
Perhaps Bonn put pressure on Zagreb to cooperate. Close connections happened to exist between the German Bundesnachrichtendienst and the Iranian services. For example, this German service allegedly supplied computer hardware to Teheran, and it trained Iranian intelligence officers in Munich in 1992. In the same period, a variety of clandestine arms supplies were set up for Croatia and Bosnia [Muslims] by Croatian Catholic relief organizations. They ran via Ludwigshafen under the leadership of Father Johannes, and involved walkie-talkies, helmets, sleeping bags, field kitchens and uniforms, which mainly came from old stocks from the GDR [the East Germany].
 
 
It was time for errand boys to step aside and let the boss take the control of quasi-covert, direct fueling of the war.
As America steps in,
the Iran-Bosnia gate opens ajar 
Everyone [in the US government] did realize that the Balkans would provide the United States with better access to the Middle East. They also looked at the united Europe and constantly asked why the United States always had to take care [sic!] of everything...
In the spring of 1993, [Clinton's National Security Adviser, Anthony] Lake was closely involved in 'selling' the so-called lift and strike strategy, which advocated lifting the embargo and a more rapid and heavier deployment of [NATO] air power. He discussed this proposal with Canadian officials, and said that his government envisaged only one option: 'lifting [the] arms embargo with arms going to Bosnian Croats and Muslims and air power to stop Serbian interference with these shipments.' According to Lake, lifting the arms embargo was the right path for the Americans. Training must be provided by a third party country, which must certainly not be the United States... As far as Lake was concerned, any country except Iran could supply arms to the ABiH [Muslim Army], preferably by lifting the arms embargo, but if necessary illegally.
Approximately 30,000 ABiH [Bosnian Muslim] soldiers would be armed in the subsequent 3 to 5 months, starting with small arms. The force would slowly be built up from this basis. Germany would put pressure on the Croats to prevent them from claiming too large a share of the supplies that were to run through Croatia and were destined for Bosnia. Germany would also put pressure on [Croat President] Tudjman to prevent an attack by Croats on the Bosnian Muslims. Humanitarian relief should probably be stopped because of these supplies, but should be reinstated later once the ABiH [the Muslims] had gained territory. ...
A Canadian official asked Lake whether account had been taken of the safety of Canadian UNPROFOR and other troops on the ground, Lake's answer was a revealing and at the same time disconcerting: 'no'. According to Lake there were 'no easy answers...' In Ottawa, highly placed officials responded indignantly to Lake's statement. As a Canadian functionary in the same time remarked: 'We are back to a world of big power politics and that is not kind to nations like Canada. We are just another troop contributor now, and no one is asking our opinion'.
Lake had evidently paid no attention whatever to the safety of the UN troops on the ground...
 
 
American debt to Saudis
to be paid by the Serbian lives 
In the spring of 1993,... [a]fter the Gulf War it was payback time for the United States: there was an expectation in the Arab world (especially Saudi Arabia) that Washington would support the Bosnian Muslims... In June 1993, Clinton received the head of the Saudi Arabian intelligence service, Prince Turki al Faisal, who was a close adviser to his uncle, the King. The Prince urged Clinton to take the lead in the military assistance to Bosnia. The American administration did not dare to do so: the fear of a rift within NATO was too great. However, the United States did consider the Saudi Arabian signal to be important, and therefore a new strategy was elaborated. Its architect was to be Richard Holbrooke, who started to look for a way to arm the Bosnian Muslims. In the summer of 1993, the Pentagon - the American ministry of defence - was said to have drawn up a plan for arms assistance to the ABiH [Bosnian Muslim Army], which included supplies of AK-47s and other small arms. This operation was to demand almost three hundred C-130 Hercules transport aircraft flights.
 
 
America to revamp Hitler's alliance
between Catholic and Islam fanatics 
In the meantime, Iran, and by then also Turkey, supplied arms via Zagreb to Bosnia. In April 1993, there were again discussions on this subject in Teheran between Bosnian Muslims, Croats and Iranians, which were also attended by the Iranian President Rafsanjani and the Bosnian [Muslim] President Izetbegovic... [D]uring the visit Rafsanjani expressed indignation to the Croatian delegation about the bloodbath in Ahmici, a village in central Bosnia, where more than one hundred Muslims were killed by Croatian units on 16 April 1993...
As Sarajevo was very much aware of its dependence on Croatia, Izetbegovic visited Teheran again on 14 September 1993 to deepen the defence relationship.
Meanwhile Holbrooke was becoming increasingly frustrated that the Croatian pipeline was not progressing well. Lake once described Holbrooke as 'high-maintenance'. Holbrooke therefore proposed to deliver arms and ammunition to the ABiH [Muslim Army] via third party countries. Lake, who had always welcomed such covert operations, nonetheless found the plan 'too risky'...
The head of the Croatian intelligence service - the son of the Croatian president - Miroslav Tudjman, visited Washington DC in the autumn of 1993. He spoke there with James Woolsey, the director of the CIA, and others... Tudjman stated later to the director of the National Security Agency (NSA) that intelligence for a stable regional solution to the conflict [and cleansing of Srebian population from Western parts of Yugoslavia] should not be sought in Bosnia, but in Washington...
Meanwhile, from mid 1993, the idea arose within the American administration of establishing a Muslim-Croat federation. Washington wanted to bring an end to the conflict between Bosnian Muslims and Croats [and concentrate this Hitler-formed alliance in fighting the Orthodox Serbs].
The US diplomats Charles Redman and Peter Tarnoff were dispatched to Europe... The message that they took with them was that the United States ... wished tougher actions against the Bosnian Serbs. [America forged] a suspension of hostilities [between Croats and Muslims] on 23 February and the formation on 13 March 1994 of the [anti-Serb] federation of Croatia and Bosnia, in which Redman played an important role...
The Americans were aware that Iran had been supplying arms via Croatia since 1992, but that this had stopped or had been significantly reduced temporarily because of the conflict between Muslims and Croats in Bosnia. The establishment of the federation now offered an opportunity to reopen the Iranian pipeline. That, and the increasing American involvement, were important milestones in boosting the arms pipeline between Iran and Croatia. ...
[Croat President] Tudjman need have no more worries that UNPROFOR would take action against the supplies: in spite of all the resolutions, there was no mandate to monitor violations or to enforce the embargo. Observers were not even allowed to inspect aircraft...
 
 
Galbraith, the American ambassador to Croatia
urges the reopenning of Iranian arms pipeline 
Classified CIA documents to which the Los Angeles Times managed to gain access, proved that the American ambassador in Zagreb, Peter Galbraith, had already taken initiatives for supplies. In February or March 1994, he spoke with his CIA station chief about the option of secret arms supplies to Bosnia, to which the United States would turn a blind eye. The station chief reported this immediately to his headquarters.
On 16 April 1994, Galbraith spoke with the religious leader of the small Muslim community in Zagreb, Iman Sefko Omerbasic, who later informed the Iranian ambassador that American diplomats had urged him to purchase arms for the ABiH. The CIA managed to gain access to a report of this discussion, and they suspected that Galbraith was engaged in a secret operation.
On 27 April 1994, the Croatian Minister of Foreign Affairs, Granic, visited the American ambassador, Galbraith. The Croatian government wished to reinstate the Iranian pipeline...
Later that day, Galbraith reported to the State Department: 'This matter is time-urgent.' ... Galbraith proposed using disguised Iranian Boeing 747s for the supplies. Half of the consignment of arms would be destined for Croatia and the other half for the Bosnian Muslims.
[T]he disadvantage was that Iran would be drawn into the region. This could have major consequences and could even cause the sudden collapse of the Muslim-Croat Federation. The advantage was that it would finally assure assistance to the Bosnian Muslims...
On 27 April 1994, Lake and Talbott discussed this with Clinton on board Air Force One. It was then decided to give a green light to the arms supplies from Iran to Croatia.
From 29 April to 2 May 1994, the Croatian prime minister, Valentic, and the Bosnian deputy prime minister visited Teheran for consultations with President Ali Akbar Rafsanjani. A tripartite agreement was drawn up for arms supplies...
 
 
Even CIA was left in the dark 
The first consignment from Iran landed in Zagreb on 4 May [1994], with sixty tons of explosives and military equipment on board. The arms were transported in Croatian army trucks along the Adriatic coast to Bosnia... Because the supplies attracted too much attention at Pleso Airport in Zagreb, the flights subsequently went mainly to the Croatian island of Krk. Shortly after Iranian cargo aircraft had landed there, a number of Croatian helicopters arrived to continue transporting the load after dusk. Moreover, Albania was prepared to act as a transit port...
Iran would be provided unhindered access to Bosnia via Croatia... [T]he American services no longer provided intelligence on violations of the embargo...
After this secret agreement to resume arms supplies, the ball started to roll in the United States. The CIA gathered an increasing amount of evidence of Iranian arms supplies via Croatia to Bosnia, in the form of photos taken by spy satellites that revealed aircraft on Turkish airfields. Two days later, the CIA saw the same aircraft in Zagreb or other airports in Croatia. The aircraft flew via Turkey, where a stopover was sometimes made, before resuming the flight over the Black Sea via Bulgarian and Romanian air space to Zagreb, where the arms were unloaded. Part of the consignment was forwarded to Bosnia; Croatia was said to have received thirty per cent of the supplies. The CIA recorded approximately eight flights a month and also received reports from the Croatian intelligence services...
The chief of [CIA] station [in Croatia] raised the alarm with his headquarters in Langley, which subsequently wondered who knew about this at the State Department and in the National Security Council (NSC). A parallel was drawn with the Iran-Contra affair, which was also led from the NSC. The CIA wondered, although the ambassador can do what he wants, whether Ambassador Galbraith might have encouraged Tudjman to make requests for arms supplies. This ... did lead rapidly to speculations that the CIA had begun spying on State Department staff. [T]he station chief in question had indeed decided to watch Galbraith's movements...
According to Langley, a covert operation had indeed been started in which the CIA was not involved. In response, the CIA in Washington took action at the highest level. The director of the CIA, Woolsey, approached in succession Lake, Christopher, and Talbott. On 5 May 1994, Talbott told Woolsey 'the essence of what had been decided'... Woolsey did not ultimately approach President Clinton. Once it was clear that the ambassador was acting on the authority of the White House and the Secretary of State and not off his own, the CIA interest stopped except to report the arms flows as intelligence.
 
 
"Retired" American generals
to train Bosnian Islamic Army 
In the summer and autumn of 1994...

lans were elaborated for training the ABiH [Bosnian Muslim Army]. An US 'mercenary outfit' was to arrange this training. This was carried out by Military Professional Resources Incorporated (MPRI), a company based in Virginia that employed various retired [sic!] American generals and intelligence officials, such as the former director of the DIA, Lieutenant General Harry Soyster. With the consent of the State Department, MPRI trained the Hrvatska Vojska (HV, the Croatian Army) and later also the ABiH. MPRI's role arose from the signing of the agreement between the United States and Croatia on military collaboration. By engaging MPRI, Washington also reduced the danger of 'direct' involvement.

 
 
The joke of the arms embargo 
Meanwhile, arms flowed liberally through the Croatian pipeline. In early 1995, Iranian cargo aircraft landed in Zagreb three times a week. The CIA and the White House and State Department continued to have different opinions, this time regarding the scale of the military support via the Croatian pipeline: the CIA settled on 14,000 tons between May 1994 and December 1996. According to the State Department from May 1994 to January 1996 Iran delivered a total of 5000 tons of arms and ammunition via the Croatian pipeline to Bosnia. The clandestine Iranian arms supplies were to stop only in January 1996, after American ground forces were stationed in the region...
Even UNPROFOR was... also involved in smuggling light arms [to Muslims] worth $ 15 million with the involvement of Turkish and Malaysian UNPROFOR troops. Not only Turkish or Malaysian, but also other UNPROFOR detachments brought more arms than they needed for themselves. For example, soldiers from Bangladesh sold ammunition on a large scale to the ABiH [Bosnian Muslim Army], which was officially to have been used during exercises, and the battalion from Malta ordered four thousand mortar-shells while they only had four mortars. In other words: in spite of the international arms embargo, Bosnia [the Bosnian Muslims!] was to receive arms through a variety of channels.
 
 
Some early - direct delivery 
American Special Forces were present throughout Bosnia: a British officer had personally witnessed an US Special Forces colonel scouting out the territory during a visit to the British headquarters in Gornji Vakuf in 1993. When asked what he was doing there, the American answered that he was looking for suitable helicopter landing places. In a night-time operation one day later, American C-130s dropped equipment, ammunition and arms, which were apparently transported in helicopters for the ABiH [Muslim Army], and a few days later ABiH soldiers were walking around in brand new American uniforms carrying M-16 rifles. This was remarkable, because those were nowhere to be found in the Balkans.
 
 
All this massive arming of the Bosnian Muslim faction in the Bosnian civil war did not still satisfy Washington. As year 1995 was approaching, Clinton wanted a more direct and massive arming of Bosnian Muslim fanatics. The solution was covert flights and delivery of weapons to the large, Muslim controlled airport in North-East Bosnia, at town of Tuzla. The "Black Flights" over Tuzla was also part of the Dutch government report.
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SREBRENICA
Mujahedin safe heaven
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The following are quotations from various sources and published articles that will explain more in-depth what "demilitarized safe area of Srebrenica" turned out to be:
Pentagon supplies arms and mujahedin 
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...Now we have the full story of the secret alliance between the Pentagon and radical Islamist groups from the Middle East designed to assist the Bosnian Muslims - some of the same groups that the Pentagon is now fighting in "the war against terrorism"...

The result was a vast secret conduit of weapons smuggling though Croatia. This was arranged by the clandestine agencies of the US, Turkey and Iran, together with a range of radical Islamist groups, including Afghan mojahedin and the pro-Iranian Hizbullah... Iran was making direct deliveries.
 
Arms purchased by Iran and Turkey with the financial backing of Saudi Arabia made their way by night from the Middle East. Initially aircraft from Iran Air were used, but as the volume increased they were joined by a mysterious fleet of black C-130 Hercules aircraft... [T]he US was "very closely involved" in the airlift. Mojahedin fighters were also flown in, but they were reserved as shock troops for especially hazardous operations.
Light weapons are the familiar currency of secret services seeking to influence such conflicts. The volume of weapons flown into Croatia was enormous...

The above quote is from:
[British] "The Guardian"
"America used Islamists to arm the Bosnian Muslims"
By Professor Richard J Aldrich
April 22, 2002
 

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The drops contained vital, high value supplies: Anti-tank guided weapons to counter Bosnian Serb armour, Stinger surface-to-air missiles to ward off helicopters, night vision goggles and, most importantly, Motorola radio sets to allow the ABiH [Bosnian Muslim Army] to operate more efficiently in large scale offensive operations.
However these air drops took place in the face of Operation Deny Flight, the UN-imposed and Nato-policed no-fly zone over Bosnia. Faced with sighting reports from the UN on the ground Nato denied that any such activity had taken place and launched an investigation whose conclusions rubber-stamped this...

The above quote is from:
Documentary by BBC Correspondent
"Allies and lies"
22 June, 2001

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The secret drops near Tuzla Air Base were made at a highway airstrip known as "Tuzla West" [some 50 miles North-West of Srebrenica]. The airstrip was little more than a very wide, straight stretch of public road...
[Bosnian Muslim] General Hasan Sadic was commander of 2nd Corps in the Tuzla region until late in 1994. He admitted he had planned the drop zone...
Brigadier Refik Brdjanovic, former commander of the Black Wolves Special Forces Unit [Alija Izetbegovic's Islamist mujahedin shock troops], was in charge of security for the air drops.

The above quote is from:
Documentary by BBC Correspondent
(Excerpts from the tape)
"Allies and lies"
22 June, 2001

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"Safe zone" - not short of weapons! 
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...Srebrenica was officially demilitarized on April 17, 1993, but the [Muslim] government soldiers were not short of weapons. Before the Serb advance on the town, the Muslims had been shelling Serb units along the main road to the south. The intelligence sources said it was that harassment which precipitated the Serb attack on the 1,500 Muslim defenders inside the enclave....

The above quote is from:
"The Times"
"Muslim soldiers 'failed to defend town from Serbs'"
By Michael Evans, Defence Correspondent
July 14, 1995

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Lt. Col. Gary Coward, a U.N. spokesman in Sarajevo, confirmed that Muslim-led government troops had used the "safe area" to make attacks on Serbs surrounding the enclave, but said the raids were not large-scale...

The above quote is from:
Associated Press
July 11, 1995

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Sunday, April 18, 1993
The Second Surrender of Srebrenica
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The Serbs of Eastern Bosnia, adjacent to Srebrenica suffered terrible atrocities at hand of Srebrenica Muslim fanatics. The official United Nations document we presented on our pages describes in detail the events of April 1992 - April 1993 and the atrocities Srebrenica Muslims perpetrated on their Christian Serb neighbors.
After a whole year of such suffering, the result of which was death of more than thousand Serbian civilians, the Serbs had more than valid reason in Spring of 1993 to take over Srebrenica and other Muslim controlled enclaves. They had moral right to bring criminals to justice. They most certainly had an obligation to their own families to get rid of the constant threat to the lives of their women and children. Still, the Serbs did not dare initiate an offensive which would wipe off the threat. It was obvious from the very first days of the conflict that the Western powers were completely, and in any way possible, in support of Bosnian Islam fanatics.
The initiative came from the Muslim side. On December 20, 1992, the commander of Bosnian Muslim Army, Sefer Halilovic, ordered all-out attack on Serbs in central Drina river region (which includes Srebrenica). Initially the Muslims were successful and many Christian Serb lives were lost. Then the Muslims were stopped. On March 9, 1993 the Muslim commander ordered, once again, the attack. This time the Bosnian Serbs counter attacked and were soon successful in taking over some of the Muslim strongholds like Kamenica and Cerska.
Despite Western protests, threats of every kind (geared at Serbs only) and demands that fighting should stop, Srebrenica was about to fall.
Srebrenica Muslims negotiate surrender

Serbs within 1,000 yards of Srebrenica
demand a permanent end to the fighting 
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SARAJEVO, Bosnia and Herzegovina The United Nations' most senior military commanders in what was Yugoslavia met with a blunt rebuff Friday when they made an urgent visit to Belgrade, the Serbian capital, to try to win Serbian assurances that Serbian nationalist troops in Bosnia will not overrun the besieged Muslim enclave of Srebrenica.
The Serbian military commander in Bosnia, [Bosnian Serb] General Ratko Mladic, emerged from a meeting with the U.N. military commanders in the Serbian capital and angrily rejected the principal demand that the U.N. generals had carried to the meeting, that Serbian forces permit an infantry company of 150 Canadian troops serving with the U.N. force to enter Srebrenica to serve as a guarantor of the enclave's survival.
"Over my dead body, or the bodies of my family," Mladic told reporters who asked him about the U.N. request, according to Reuters news agency.
[But...] According to Reuters, Mladic also agreed to attend a meeting under U.N. chairmanship with military leaders of the Muslim-led Bosnian government at Sarajevo airport on Monday to seek a permanent end to the fighting around Srebrenica.
An official of the U.N. military force in Belgrade, Shannon Boyd, told reporters that Mladic commander, had undertaken to order the troops who have approached within 1,000 yards of Srebrenica to halt their attacks from 2 p.m. local time Saturday, and to hold their fire even if attacked...

The above quote is from:
"New York Times News Service"
Title: "SERBS REJECT U.N. DEMANDS TO PRESERVE BOSNIA ENCLAVE"
Author: John F. Burns
Friday, April 9, 1993

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SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina United Nations officials said Thursday night that Bosnian defenders were negotiating a surrender to Serbian forces of the besieged Muslim enclave at Srebrenica that would guarantee the safe evacuation of the 60,000 Muslim civilians there and of the beleaguered garrison.
The officials said Srebrenica could be in Serbian hands as early as noon Friday, and at any rate within two or three days, since Bosnian efforts to defend the city appeared to have virtually collapsed.
Srebrenica has been in a state of chaos for weeks. Thousands of homeless Muslim refugees have jammed the city's streets, food shortages have threatened mass starvation, and hundreds of seriously wounded people have overwhelmed the city's only hospital, which has only two surgeons.
"The Serbs are moving in fast, and the Bosnian forces are trying to negotiate a settlement," a U.N. official said at mid-evening, as Serbian forces advanced to within 2,000 yards of the city center on its southern and southeastern side.
The U.N. official said contacts between the two forces, through the small U.N. military detachment in Srebrenica, were aimed at a surrender...
"It doesn't look good," the U.N. official said, asking that he not be identified.

The above quote is from:
"New York Times News Service"
Title: "DEFENDERS SAID TO BE READY TO SURRENDER BOSNIA TOWN"
Author: John F. Burns
Thursday, April 15, 1993
(NYT-04-15-93 2116EDT)

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It is important to notice that Bosnian Serb commander, General Mladic, is fully aware that NATO forces, sitting in supposedly "neutral" U.N. peacekeeping uniforms are NOT neutral. It does not look good for Alija Izetbegovic's Islam fundamentalists and their half-hidden Western ally. Over his dead body would Mladic let NATO ally enter Srebrenica and save it for the Muslim butchers.
Mladic demands that Srebrenica Muslim butchery of Serbian Christians in nearby Serbian villages stop. He demands a permanent end to the fighting around enclave. The Serbs demand peace and that is exactly what Western "peacekeepers" can not afford! They did not came to Bosnia out of their kind heart to keep peace. They came to conquer Bosnia and build permanent NATO bases there. More war, not peace, is what NATO needs. The bases will, at some future time, be used to attack and finish off Russia. British invented "Great Game" and "Eastern Question" is still in town. The whole relationship between Eastern and Western Christians revolves, once again, around Bosnia. Bosnia's destiny -- and at that moment in 1993 it seems to be a complete surrender of Islam forces to Eastern Christians -- revolves round Srebrenica. As many times before the Western Christians will do their best to keep Eastern Christians subdued under Islam. And that is why they can not hide their anger and they scream at the top of their lungs.
This time, some masks would have to fall. Right away!
The guise of neutrality - abandoned 
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U.N. officials in Bosnia have abandoned their previous guise of neutrality in recent days and issued a series of harsh condemnations of the Serbian forces for their attacks at Srebrenica.

The above quote is from:
"New York Times News Service"
Title: "DEFENDERS SAID TO BE READY TO SURRENDER BOSNIA TOWN"
Author: John F. Burns
Thursday, April 15, 1993
(NYT-04-15-93 2117EDT)

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Notice from the above texts that it was local Srebrenica Muslims (Naser Oric, himself) who, in direct negotiations with Serbs wanted to surrender. That will not go easy with his Western allies who want to lift negotiations to the level of high Bosnian Muslim command in Sarajevo. They want the negotiations to be conducted under supervision and tutorship of the NATO allies. More than anything, NATO commanders and soldiers do not want to be fired from this "peacekeeping" job. They want to still be employed, even under this guise. They insist that Canadian (NATO) troops enter Srebrenica.
Mladic has another worry. The military victory is his and he should have upper hand. Even though his troops are only 1,000 yarsd away from Srebrenica on April 9th, he waits almost entire week, till April 15, negotiating and doing his best so battle for Srebrenica does not bring many Srebrenica civilian casualty which Western media would be too eager to present as Serb purposeful "genocide" over the Muslim population.
Mladic is ready to let entire population leave. According to Geneva Convention, the winning army has to respect the wish of civilians to leave. He is rightly concerned that Srebrenica Muslim military personel would leave too, and simply regroup to fight Serbs on some other battlefield in Bosnia. Some of these "fighters" are people who slaughtered old, defenceless Serbian peasants in nearby Serbian villages.
Should war criminals regroup? 
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They [the Bosnian Serbs] have refused urgent U.N. appeals for permission to fly U.N. helicopters over Serbian-controlled territory around Srebrenica to evacuate some 500 wounded people, some of whom are among the 100 people wounded Monday.
U.N. commanders favor helicopters for the evacuations because many of the wounded are in such critical condition that doctors are reluctant to place them aboard the trucks that U.N. officials have used to evacuate more than 7,000 people from the city, mostly women and children, in the last three weeks.
Another reason for flying U.N. helicopters into the city is that Serbian commanders have insisted that any men between 18 and 60 who cross the siege lines aboard U.N. trucks, even if they are seriously wounded, will be taken off the trucks, and the wounded transported to serbian hospitals, to prevent the men from rejoining the Bosnian forces elsewhere in the war after they recover.

The above quote is from:
"New York Times News Service"
Title: "DEFENDERS SAID TO BE READY TO SURRENDER BOSNIA TOWN"
Author: John F. Burns
Thursday, April 15, 1993
(NYT-04-15-93 2116EDT)

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Let us state the obvious. The Serbs have power to take over Srebrenica. This means that:
The Serbs will control the entire territory
The Serbs will control the population and make sure there will be no future resistance
The Muslim enemy will be disarmed
Enemy weapons will be surrendered and become Serbian weapon
War criminals among the Muslims would be brought to justice
The net result is peace in the region. The Serb controlled part of Bosnia would not look like a Swiss cheese any more. The too long borderline of conflict between Serbs and Muslims is shortened and the Serbs who in 1992 declared that they want the end to the war are so much closer to that goal.
As we will see, the Serbs were so eager to reach permanent end to the fighting round Srebrenica that they abandoned all of the above goals they already had at hand. They will reduce their demand to one only: DEMILITARIZATION of Srebrenica.
At this point, the West and their Mujahedin ally will sign anything, just to stop the immanent Serbian victory. Before the ink dries on the signed agreement though, they would renege on all promises signed.
Srebrenica surrenders
(for the second time) 

Srebrenica to disarm in 72 hours 
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SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina (AP) -- Bosnian Serbs and Muslims signed a cease-fire for the embattled eastern town of Srebrenica early Sunday and [the Serbs] guaranteed safe evacuation of [Muslim] civilians...
The accord was reached under threat of Serb invasion and effectively amounts to the surrender of Srebrenica, one of the last Muslim strongholds in eastern Bosnia...
The Srebrenica truce, which began at 4:59 a.m. (10:59 EDT), calls for U.N. forces to demilitarize the town within 72 hours of their arrival, said Cmdr. Barry Frewer, a U.N. spokesman in Sarajevo...
Terms of the cease-fire were reached Saturday [April 17, 1993] at a meeting in Sarajevo between the two rival military commanders, Lt. Gen. Ratko Mladic of the Bosnian Serbs and Gen. Sefer Halilovic of the Muslim-led Bosnian government...

The above quote is from:
"The Associated Press"
Title: "Srebrenica evacuations begin"
Sunday, April 18, 1993

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The Canadians from the United Nations Protection Force (UNPROFOR) were ordered to secure the demilitarisation of Srebrenica, which is also a Moslem guerrilla stronghold, within 72 hours of their arrival.
The agreement signed by Sefir Halilovic, commander the Moslem-led Bosnian army and Serb Army head Ratko Mladic stipulated that Moslem fighters should turn in *all* weapons and ammunition to U.N. peace-keepers by 11 a.m. (0900 GMT) on Wednesday.
It guaranteed "correct treatment for any personnel who hand over their weapons to UNPROFOR" but did *not* seek the disarming of the powerful Serb siege forces equipped with heavy weapons...
U.N. commanders General Lars-Eric Wahlgren and General Philippe Morillon went to Karadzic's base at Pale near Sarajevo to press him to have his men honour the ceasefire.
As part of the agreement, Mladic lifted his ban on the deployment of the Canadians. He also authorised the opening of an air corridor between Srebrenica and the Moslem haven of Tuzla to allow British and French U.N. helicopters to evacuate 500 of the most seriously wounded and sick...
UNPROFOR spokesman Barry Frewer... told reporters the deal "has stopped the advance on Srebrenica. It could be a watershed that would bring calm to the area."

The above quote is from:
"Reuter"
Title: "U.N. TROOPS TO DISARM MOSLEM UNDER SREBRENICA CEASEFIRE"
Author: Mark Heinrich
Sunday, April 18, 1993

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SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina. A contingent of 135 United Nations soldiers from Canada entered the Muslim enclave of Srebrenica on Sunday to set up a "safe area" under an accord signed before dawn by leaders of Bosnian Serbs and Muslims.
In addition to the "safe area," the accord included an immediate cease-fire and a 72-hour deadline for U.N. troops to disarm the government [i.e. Muslim] garrison in the eastern Bosnian city.
"Yesterday, we have saved the city," Lt. Gen. Philippe Morillon, the U.N. commander in Bosnia, said at a news conference in Sarajevo. He said [the Bosnian Serb] troops were within hours of overrunning Srebrenica.
But the pact, reached after 16 hours of talks at the Sarajevo airport, amounted to little more than a disguised surrender of Srebrenica, said commanders of the Muslim-led defenders of Srebrenica. Their view was shared by some senior officers on Morillon's staff.
A senior Bosnian officer who attended the negotiations said... "We're not fooling ourselves... This is a surrender..."
The U.N. officers who criticized the Srebrenica accord pointed to what they said were serious loopholes.
First, they said, the accord provided for the surrender to U.N. forces of "all weapons, ammunition, mines, explosives and combat supplies inside Srebrenica," a requirement that they said would almost certainly mean that only the Bosnian defenders would be stripped of their arms...
Morillon said the deployment of the Canadian infantry company, a step he had sought since he made a personal stand at Srebrenica in mid-March, would prevent Serbian forces from attacking the area because they would endanger not only the 30,000 Muslims but troops backed by 180 nations.
"An attack on Srebrenica tomorrow would be an attack on the whole world, it's clear," he said...

The above quote is from:
"The New York Times News Service"
Title: U.N. SAYS ENCLAVE IS "SAVED"; BOSNIANS CALL IT "SURRENDER"
Author: John F. Burns
Sunday, April 18, 1993
(NYT-04-18-93 2104EDT)

MORE DETAILED QUOTE
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Very clearly, NATO set Srebrenica as a trip-wire. The Serbs would have to dance on that wire.
Eleven point plan of Muslim disarmament 

By this time the Muslim "defenders" of Srebrenica have committed unspeakable atrocities on the surrounding Serbian population. The Western officials know about the crimes. We remind you of the UN document clearly describing Srebrenica Muslim crimes.
Would concerned Western humanitarians demand that these monsters get punished? No, they are actually worried that any punishment will be exacted. The Western politicians worry for the lives of the Islam fundamentalists and do their best to protect the criminals.
Western politicians protect Muslim fanatics 
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Despite the Security Council's doubts about the justice of the cease-fire pact reached in the eastern town of Srebrenica, the truce appeared to be holding there Sunday.
Some 130 Canadian peacekeeping troops whom the Serbs stopped from reaching the town on Saturday finally made it past the Serbian siege lines to receive a hero's welcome from the inhabitants.
At the same time French and British helicopters in U.N. colors were allowed to fly in and evacuate 133 of the most seriously sick and wounded people, running a shuttle service from the Muslim stronghold of Tuzla some 45 miles away...
[Bosnian Serb President Dr. Radovan] Karadzic has pledged that his forces will not enter Srebrenica and that no harm will come to *any* of its inhabitants after they are disarmed. But in London, [British "neutral negotiator" David] Owen expressed doubts.
"They'll let out the young children, elderly people, women. They'll all come out easily," he told the BBC. "The danger will be over the males of fighting age accused [SIC!!!] of killing Serbs."

The above quote is from:
"The New York Times News Service"
Title: "SANCTIONS WILL ISOLATE SERBS AS DEEPLY AS IRAQIS, U.N. SAYS"
Author: Paul Lewis
Sunday, April 18, 1993
(NYT-04-18-93 2116EDT)

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Karadzic and his officers assembled in Pale for meetings with U.N. officials waved off threats of direct military action by the West with an air of both bravado and victimization.
Their discussions with Lt. Gen. Philippe Morillon, U.N. commander for Bosnia, and Gen. Lars-Eric Wahlgren, overall commander of the U.N. forces in the former Yugoslavia, centered on the implementation of an 11-point plan agreed to early Sunday morning to end the bloody three-month Serbian siege of the Muslim mountain enclave of Srebrenica.
The bargain was struck after 14 hours of talks at the Sarajevo airport between the Bosnian Serb commander, Gen. Ratko Mladic, and the Muslim commander of the Bosnian army, Maj. Sefer Halilovic.
Under the plan, Srebrenica would be "demilitarized" within 72 hours, meaning that the Muslim fighters would lay down their arms in exchange for "free passage" out as civilians. A convoy of 130 Canadian U.N. troops was sent to the town and arrived shortly before noon Sunday to monitor another provision of the plan the air evacuation of the wounded and sick to the Muslim town of Tuzla.
For the first time, the two arch-enemies agreed to establish a "safe zone" to prevent further loss of life, a procedure to monitor the cease-fire and a joint military "liaison board" to work out difficulties in implementing it.
An apparently unspoken point in the plan is the tacit recognition that Muslim fighters are likely to try to slip through the Serbian lines to disappear into the surrounding mountains.
"In a cease-fire, under the cover of night, anything can happen," said one U.N. officer with a wink.
Morillon, who promised the... people of Srebrenica that he would not abandon them, said he was satisfied with the negotiations. He predicted that further bloodshed would now be avoided and that even Muslim fighters would be allowed to leave.
"The agreement is for everyone man, woman and child," he said, hitching his fingers under his military belt and smiling.

The above quote is from:
"The New York Times News Service"
Title: "BOSNIAN SERB LEADER STANDS FIRM AGAINST U.N. PEACE PLAN"
Author: John Darnton
Sunday, April 18, 1993
(NYT-04-18-93 1848EDT)

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International media on 19 April report that UN helicopters are continuing an operation begun the previous day to bring sick and wounded from the besieged east Bosnian Muslim enclave to the relative safety of Tuzla. On 18 April the Muslims and Serbs with UN mediation reached "an agreement on the demilitarization of Srebrenica," which the BBC said effectively constitutes the surrender of the town. The 19 April Washington Post quotes analysts as noting "the anomaly of UN officials in New York negotiating a Bosnian peace that would require the Serbs to relinquish captured territory and the Security Council voting tougher sanctions against them..."

The above quote is from:
"RFE/RL Daily Report", No. 73,
Monday, April 19, 1993
Title: "EVACUATION OF SREBRENICA BEGINS"
Author: Patrick Moore

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NATO unable to disarm one mile wide, two mile long enclave!? 

With entry of Canadian troops into Srebrenica the Islamic fanatics and war criminals got their NATO supporters in their midst. From April 1993 until July 1995 when Srebrenica fell for the third and final time the Muslim criminals got NATO body guard in uniforms of "neutral" U.N.
With this kind of support the Islam fanatics of Srebrenica will be completely free to exit the safe area, murder any Serbs they find on their path, and then come back into safe area, under NATO umbrella.
But what about the eleven point plan that everyone agreed to? What about the pretense that U.N. (actually NATO troops) have task to keep the promised peace by disarming the thugs? That's an easy one. Western political tradition is rich in millenia long experience in the art of lie and pretense.
Lying as an ancient Western tool 
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1) UNPROFOR in Bosnia requested from the Serbian forces to extend the deadline of 72 hours of Bosnian soldiers in Srebrenica (initially this deadline would be Wednesday 21. April).
  The Bosnian Muslims are hesitant to give up their arms, which Canadian soldiers are looking after. It is now up to the Serbs, will they extend it or not. Since an agreement has been made, the Serbs have every right to keep the Wednesday deadline official.
2) Muslim authorities in Srebrenica are not allowing civilians to leave the area.
3) UN wants Zepa, Gorazde to also be considered "safety zones".

The above quote is from:
"BBC"
BBC 15 h GMT
Tuesday, 20. april 1993

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The talks appeared close to breaking down over Serbian demands that U.N. troops in Srebrenica meet a 72-hour deadline for disarming the Bosnian defenders.
U.N. officers had asked that the deadline, expiring at noon on Wednesday, be extended for 72 hours.
Gen. Milan Gvero, deputy commander of the Serbian nationalist [sic] forces, was quoted by the Serbian nationalist [sic] news agency as saying there would be no extension.

The above quote is from:
"The New York Times News Service",
Author: John F. Burns
Tuesday, April 20, 1993

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SREBRENICA DRAMA CONTINUES. The 21 April Los Angeles Times reports that UN officials say they will need three additional days to disarm the Muslim defenders of Srebrenica, but the Serbs apparently demand that the disarming be completed on schedule. The UN is trying to dispel the image that it has negotiated the surrender of the town, arguing instead that it is trying "to stop the killing and starvation." It is also seeking to make "safe havens" out of the other two Muslim-held enclaves in eastern Bosnia, Zepa and Gorazde.

The above quote is from:
"RFE/RL Daily Report", No. 75,
Author: Patrick Moore
Wednesday, April 21, 1993

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It was a day that must have left U.N. peace keepers in Bosnia frustrated. Canadian troops in Srebrenica faced a deadline today for disarming Muslim fighters there under the terms of last weeks agreement designating Srebrenica a "safe area". U.N. officials there say that they succeeded in their objective and that the town of Srebrenica itself has now been demilitarized. Muslim fighters have turned in some weapons but it is not clear how many. The so called "safe zone" is 4 kilometers long by 1.5 kilometers wide. Around the perimeter of the city, along the front lines of defense no U.N. troops are positioned and the Muslim fighters there still have their weapons. Leaders of the Bosnian Serb's forces around Srebrenica say that they want all the Muslim fighters in the area disarmed but the Serbs there have not yet resumed their attacks on the city...
Bosnian Army forces meanwhile reported what they said was the MAJOR battle field victory on the hill known as BAN BRDO overlooking Tuzla. Soldiers then indulged in a WIERD CELEBRATION through the afternoon and evening. Soldiers returning to the city from the front lines shot hundreds of rounds of precious ammunitions into the air to mark their victory. They pulled up in front of a major downtown hotel with five captured Serb soldiers in their custody, one of them a woman. In full view of the press corp and U.N. personnel, the Bosnian [Muslim] Army troops then paraded the [Christian] Serbs through the hotel dinning room as though they were trophies. The Serb's faces were bruised and bloodied; obviously they had been seriously beaten. It was a sorry sight in a war that becomes sicker and more tragic by the day.
I am Tom Jelton in Tuzla.

The above quote is from:
Author: Tom Jelton's report from Tuzla, Bosnia
American radio station "NPR"
820 KHz 22:00 U.T.C.
Wednesday, April 21, 1993

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BOSNIAN UPDATE. International media report on 22 April that the UN announced the previous day that the disarming of the Muslims in Srebrenica was completed on time. Most of the fighters left the embattled town and took their weapons with them, however, prompting the Serbs to call the disarming bogus. There are 145 Canadian UN troops in Srebrenica, but from reports on the BBC and elsewhere it is not clear if they intend to defend it against any Serb attacks, as some media accounts suggested on 21 April.

The above quote is from:
"RFE/RL Daily Report"
Author: Patrick Moore
Thursday, April 22, 1993

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SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina After hours of tension that threatened new bloodshed, U.N. officers said late Wednesday that they had met a deadline for disarming the defenders of Srebrenica, the battered enclave that is one of the last Muslim footholds in eastern Bosnia.
If the announcement proves correct, Srebrenica will have to depend for its safety on a 145-man U.N. contingent from Canada, a prospect that is causing severe anxiety. The Canadians, who have only machine-guns, assault rifles and sidearms, would be the only buffer between the tens of thousands of civilians [only!?] and an aggressive force of several thousand Serbian nationalists with tanks and heavy artillery.
A cease-fire signed early Sunday by the town's government defenders and its Serbian attackers required the United Nations to disarm the Muslim forces within 72 hours.
But if many Muslim fighters in Srebrenica evaded the hurried weapons collection, as some senior officers fear, the scene may be set for a brutal showdown.
Serbian military commanders have warned repeatedly that any cheating on the arms roundup would void the agreement to demilitarize the town, and they have vowed renewed attacks if the agreement is not honored. ...
In Belgrade, the chief of staff of the Bosnian Serbian forces, Gen. Manojlo Milovanovic, said the Muslim-led forces had effectively reneged on the accord, Reuters reported. "The Muslims have given up a ridiculously small quantity of weapons," he said.
One senior U.N. official said commanders had "no contingency plans" in the event of a Serbian attack...
"Basically, all that stands behind those Canadians in Srebrenica is Bill Clinton and the Serbian fear that he might order air strikes against their guns," the official said.
One officer in Sarajevo said the Canadian commander in Srebrenica, Lt. Col. Tom Geburt of the Royal Canadian Regiment, was "tearing out his hair" at the prospect of having to defend the city, or even his own men.
Among the U.N. officers and at U.N. headquarters in New York, there was disagreement on what the Canadian troops would do if the Serbs attacked.
Cmdr. Barry Frewer, the Canadian Navy officer who is the spokesman for the U.N. force in Bosnia, said that under the rules of engagement, the Canadians would use their weapons to try to save civilians. "We can use our weapons to protect ourselves and those who are under our protection," he said.
But other officers said the Canadians would not fight the Serbs except to defend bunkers and other positions occupied by the Canadians themselves.
That appeared to be the view of senior officials in New York, who were quoted in a BBC radio report as saying that Frewer was mistaken and that the Canadian troops had no authority to protect civilians, only themselves. That has been the standard position of U.N. commanders here, who have often rejected pleas for help from civilians under threat of attack, saying that the mandate of the 8,000-member force does not authorize it to protect civilians.

The above quote is from:
"Times News Service"
Title: "SREBRENICA'S MUSLIM DEFENDERS DISARMED, U.N. SAYS"
Author: JOHN F. BURNS
Wednesday, April 21, 1993
(NYT-04-21-93 2100EDT)

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SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina A tense standoff continued on Thursday in the Muslim enclave of Srebrenica in eastern Bosnia, with Serbian nationalist commanders claiming that U.N. troops had made "a farce" of their pledge to disarm the town's Muslim defenders, collecting only limited numbers of old weapons and allowing thousands of Muslim soldiers to retain their arms.
At one point on Thursday, Serbian commanders hinted that they might attack the town and its U.N. defenders, but, at nightfall, Canadian officers serving in the 145-man U.N. military contingent reported that the town and its immediate vicinity were mostly quiet.
In Sarajevo, the U.N. commander in Bosnia, Gen. Philippe Morillon, of France, gave assurances that the town and the U.N. contingent were safe. A Serbian attack, he said, would be "a declaration of war against the whole world."
While U.N. officers took a confident stand, there were mounting signs of anxiety behind the scenes. A senior U.N. official who helped negotiate the cease-fire that led to the U.N. soldiers entering Srebrenica said that his conversations with top Serbian military commanders made him fearful that they would attempt "something drastic."
The U.N. official said that some of the Serbian commanders even seemed eager for a showdown over Srebrenica and seemed undeterred by warnings that a renewed attack on the town might provoke Western military intervention.
"There's a real millennial mood among the Serbs," the official said. "They say that the world is preparing to crucify them, and that they are ready for it, that they will go down fighting."
Referring to a [Kosovo] battle in 1389, when the defeat of a medieval Serbian kingdom by Ottoman Turks set the seal on 500 years of Turkish rule in the Balkans, the official added: "Srebrenica could become the Kosovo Field of 1993. There is a real Kosovo complex among the Serbian leaders."
Other U.N. military officers offered accounts of developments in Srebrenica that presented the situation not as a potential disaster for the vastly outgunned U.N. force and for tens of thousands of Muslim civilians in the town, but as a step toward ending the war. Morillon told a news conference in Sarajevo, the Bosnian capital, that the U.N. operation in Srebrenica could be duplicated elsewhere, laying the basis for implementation of an international peace plan.
"We will start implementing the demilitarization we have achieved in Srebrenica across the whole of Bosnia-Herzegovina," he said." ...
Canadian officers supervising the disarming of Muslim fighters in Srebrenica reported to U.N. headquarters that they had collected and destroyed a quantity of heavy machine guns, recoilless rifles, mortars, and personal weapons, mainly assault rifles. A U.N. spokesman in Sarajevo, Cmdr. Barry Frewer, of the Canadian navy, said that the weapons destroyed also included "some heavy field guns."
But Gen. Manojlo Milovanovic, chief of staff of the Serbian nationalist forces in Bosnia, was quoted by Tanyug, the Yugoslav news agency, as having said that U.N. officers had "made a farce of the operation" of disarming the Muslim fighters, because few weapons had been surrendered and most of them were old.
Milovanovic, apparently relying on reports from a Serbian liaison officer in Srebrenica, said that the U.N. operation was a violation of the cease-fire and that Serbian forces considered themselves relieved of their commitment not to attack the town.
Frewer refused to say how many weapons had been destroyed. But he implied that Milovanovic's assertions were not groundless by saying that the number of weapons fell short of the amount that the United Nations had expected from the 7,000 Muslim fighters it had estimated to be in Srebrenica and Muslim-held villages around the town. As for the kind of weapons handed in, Frewer said: "We have received some antiquated pieces, yes. Also the odd modern piece."
With Serbian forces poised at the outskirts of Srebrenica, U.N. commanders appeared to have decided that their best hope of avoiding a renewed battle for the town was to declare the disarming a success, and to rely on Serbian concerns about possible Western military action to keep the Serbian forces from attacking.

The above quote is from:
"Times News Service"
Title: "STANDOFF FOR MUSLIM ENCLAVE IN BOSNIA"
Author: JOHN F. BURNS
Thursday, April 22, 1993
(NYT-04-22-93 2039EDT)

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Who is to believe that Mighty NATO was unable to disarm a village "4 kilometers long by 1.5 kilometers wide!?" Two years later NATO will disarm entire Serb population of Bosnia and Krajina. Then they would bomb and disarm Yugoslavia, Iraq,...
We should add that Bosnian Muslims fanatics were militarily completely defeated. Their only and true ally was the West, that could order them to do anything. But, of course, this was a pretence, a circus, and evryone involved knew it. The Serbs, for sure, did not have power to make NATO be honest and keep its word. It was cowboys and Indians once again. As usual, the cowboys did not respect the signed agreement. It is important to make Indians sign a peace agreement, even a peace pipe will be smoked, but the next morning the cowboys can continue slaughtering Indian women and children. Someone was a primitive savage in this story.
Islam fanatics and their Western protectors were only bying time so Western proxies on the ground could get better armed and equipped.
Here we go again... 

Muslim fanatics, saved by NATO
vow to return to Srebrenica 
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TUZLA, Bosnia-Herzegovina In a smoky bomb shelter beneath the main hospital here, wounded and maimed Muslim soldiers airlifted [by NATO] from Srebrenica vowed on Tuesday to continue their yearlong struggle to defend their homes.
"I'm going back for sure as soon as I'm well," said Muradif Habibovic from his bed. "Even like this, I will go back." He held up both hands, which were bandaged and missing fingers...
Next to him in a long row of new wooden beds provided by international relief agencies, Sinan Muhic, who lost a leg in a Serbian shelling attack, was just as resolute about returning...

The above quote is from:
"Times News Service"
Title: "WOUNDED MUSLIMS VOW TO RETURN TO SREBRENICA"
Author: CHUCK SUDETIC
April 20, 1993
(NYT-04-20-93 2103EDT)

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Bratunac, May 3, 1993 (Tanjug) - Moslem troops in the area of Srebrenica, a Moslem enclave in Eastern Bosnia, have been incessantly opening fire on Serb positions, despite the ceasefire which came into effect on April 18, local Serb military sources told Tanjug on Monday.
Moslem troops on Sunday night launched the strongest attack on the strategic point of Kvarc, in the Bratunac area, but the Serb troops did not respond, they said.
The demilitarization of Srebrenica still has not been completed as is officially claimed, local Serb military sources said.
Under an agreement between the Bosnian Serb and Moslem military commands, Srebrenica is to be proclaimed a demilitarized zone. a Canadian battalion of the United Protection Force (UNPROFOR) is deployed there...

The above quote is from:
"Tanjug"
Title: "Moslems continuously provoke in Eastern Bosnia"
May 3, 1993

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Yes, this happened right away, less than three weeks after Canadians supposedly disarmed Srebrenica war crimninals. Yes, only Belgrade news agency Tanjug reported these first Muslim attacks from U.N. "demilitarized" Srebrenica. Western media, as a part of NATO service to their mujahedin proxies, would downplay or not report at all these attacks from the "free zone." The neighboring Serb villages, for the next two years, became free-to-murder zone for Srebrenica fanatics. The Islam fundamentalists now had open, NATO protection.
Now did you understand that signing an agreement to demilitarize Srebrenica actually mean that Srebrenica Muslims should give their arms away? If you did, you must be some stupid Serb. Isn't it obvious to you that demilitarization means that Muslims have now a signed right to strengthen, arm, equip and train their troops? Well, read the explanation given by Bosnian Muslim generals themselves.
 
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The discovery of the ammunition boxes in a concealed space beneath the container carrying the flour has been interpreted by Serbian military commanders as proof of their contention that the peacekeeping force here is a covert ally of the Bosnian [Muslim] government, intent on using the relief effort as a means of supporting the embattled Bosnian [Muslim] forces.
Serbian generals have written aggressive letters denouncing the "dishonest activities" of the U.N. and warning, in effect, that the Serbian forces reserve the right to shut down all relief efforts here, a move that would quickly starve many of the Muslim cities and towns...
The U.N., apprehensive that [Bosnian] Serbs might attack Western military planes that have been delivering food and medicine to the capital, suspended the airlift Saturday morning.

The above quote is from:
"The New York Times News Service"
Title: SERBS' MOVES RAISING FEARS THEY PLAN AN ALL-OUT DRIVE
Author: John F. Burns
Saturday, April 10, 1993
(NYT-04-10-93 1711EDT)

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The Americans found much more comfortable way to supply their mujahedin friends:
Thousands of tons of aid:
American operation "Parachute" 
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FRANKFURT, Germany (AP) -- Military planes from the United States, Germany and France airdropped almost 60 tons of food and medicine over Srebrenica on Sunday, as the Bosnian Muslims were giving up the fight against the Serbs.
The airdrops started Feb. 28, launched by the U.S. Air Force on President Bill Clinton's orders.
French and German air force planes joined the missions in late March, flying with the U.S. Air Force out of Rhein-Main Air Base outside Frankfurt.
U.S. military reports said six U.S. Air Force C-130s, and one C-160 each from the French and German air forces dropped 57.3 tons of food and nearly 1 ton of medical supplies over Srebrenica in eastern Bosnia-Herzegovina and returned safely to Rhein-Main early Sunday.
The airdrops so far have delivered nearly 1,967 tons of food and 47 tons of medical supplies, concentrating on the Srebrenica area in recent days as the situation grew more critical.

The above quote is from:
"The Associated Press"
Title: "Airdrop On As Muslims Flee"
April 18, 1993

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Both Americans and their mujahedin allies on the ground were looking into new ways to closer cooperation. Some Bosnian Muslims may sound stupid for spelling clearly what closer American involvement ment. The fact that this was published reveals that the whole thing was a clear threat sent to the Serbs. It is as if saying: "We Americans, are helping your enemy - but you can do nothing about it."
Openning the door to American military intervention 
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SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina (UPI) -- Posters thanking President Clinton were being commissioned in the Bosnian capital Monday after U.S. transport planes began dropping aid to besieged towns in a move many Bosnians believe will eventually lead to American military intervention in the Balkans conflict.
"For six months our hope has been with the Americans," said Bosnian Information Minister Senada Kreso in reaction to the American air-drop of supplies. "We are thankful for the first act he took..."
"The American initiative gives us a sudden hope that Clinton has started something," Kreso said. "If they shoot one plane down, then the U.S. will shoot back. People here believe this is the beginning of a big battle." ...
One senior Bosnian government official, who refused to be identified, said: "If a U.S. plane is shot down, it will be a tragedy, but I'm sure the U.S. won't sit back and take it. They'll have to retaliate."
[Canadian Commander Barry] Frewer [spokesman for the U.N. Protection Force in Sarajevo] said Gen. Phillipe Morillon, head of U.N. forces in Bosnia-Herzegovina, initially "was not exactly pleased" about the air-drop operation, fearing that the United States had not considered all the consequences [for NATO troops in UN uniforms on the ground].
"We were unenthusiastic about the idea... If there are suspicions that these are weapons delivery air-drops, its anybody's guess what could happen. They [the Serbs] may shoot back," Frewer said.
Additionally, Frewer said that U.N. commanders were only consulted after the announcement was made by the Clinton administration, and he acknowledged that this had irked U.N. officials in Bosnia.
A few days later however, U.N. officials warmed to the U.S. plan after Gen. James Jones, commander of U.S. forces in central Europe, paid a visit to Morillon.
"We've now had a chance to meet with (U.S. military commanders) and see that their plan is a solid one with full considerations of all the risks involved," Frewer said after Morillon's meeting with James.

The above quote is from:
"The United Press International"
Title: "Bosnians see air drop as first step toward U.S. intervention"
March 4, 1993

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Clinton's Administration had a complete disregard toward their NATO allies. This situation culminated in 1995 when some of NATO allies started thinking how to withdraw from NATO altogether.
The next step in taking Muslim side is to deny the Serbs a rare advantage they had. Keep in mind that this advantage was very important to two million Serbs who were ripped away from remaining Serbs in Yugoslavia by Western abrupt recognition of Croatia and Bosnia. Two million Serbs born to these two republics were to fight a battle of survival against much more numerous enemy: four million Croats and two million Bosnian Muslims.
To fully understand the Serbian fight for survival and the fact that the Serbs had all possible rights to wage that fight, please take a look at American State Department map, issued in March 1992 showing the fact that Bosnia and Krajina Serbs were indigenous people of the two secessionist republics. These were the very survivors of World War II second worst genocide in Nazi occupied Europe.
The West was to rip every advantage from already disadvantaged Serbs. American press and politicians was calling this renewed genocide geared against the Serbian people: "Levelling the playing field".
"No-Fly Zone" =
Denying Serbs to fly 

NATO to keep Serbian aircraft from flying over Bosnia 
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BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) _ In a significant expansion of the Western military role in the former Yugoslavia, the United States and its NATO allies approved an operation Friday to keep Serbian aircraft from flying over Bosnia.
The mission, which could begin as early as next week, gives alliance planes authority to fire on violators and may involve 50 to 100 jet fighters...
Approval for the operation came hours before Bosnian Serbs rejected, as expected, a peace plan accepted by Muslims and Croats. The Serb move derailed efforts by international mediators to end the year-old war that has torn apart the Balkan republic and has threatened to ignite a wider regional conflict.
The airborne operation approved by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization would be the first of its kind since the alliance was formed in 1949 to contain communism. NATO warships have been sent to the Adriatic Sea to watch for violations of a U.N. trade embargo on Serbia and Montenegro, the remaining Yugoslav republics.
[E]thnic Serbs mostly have only light aircraft.
So far, the no-fly zone has been violated 465 times, mostly by non-military flights, U.N. officials say. But recently, small planes have attacked Muslim villages in eastern Bosnia...
The U.N. Security Council on Wednesday authorized NATO warplanes to shoot down aircraft violating the no-fly zone. But it bowed to pressure from Russia, a longtime Serb ally [???], and ruled out pre-emptive strikes on Serb airfields.
NATO ambassadors met Friday in special session at the behest of the United Nations...
NATO Secretary-General Manfred Woerner said the decision to get involved in the Bosnian conflict "clearly signals a new role and a mission for our alliance."
"It is the first time this alliance will run a military operation in practice, not an exercise," he said. "It is the first time this will take place out of (NATO's) area (and) the first time in support of the United Nations."
The Allied commander of Europe, U.S. Gen. John Shalikashvili, will be in charge of the operation from his headquarters near Mons, Belgium, Woerner said...
The United States, Britain, France and the Netherlands are expected to take part in the mission.
The German government, paralyzed by a constitutional war over its international military role, voted Friday to help enforce the no-fly zone...
NATO members are Belgium, Britain, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Turkey and the United States

The above quote is from:
"The Associated Press"
Title: "NATO Allies to Enforce No-Fly Zone of Serb Aircraft Over Bosnia"
Author: ROBERT J. WIELAARD
Friday, April 2, 1993

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The enforcement by American, French and Dutch fighters of the ban on flights is not a measure of great consequence by itself. General Manojlo Milovanovic, the Bosnian Serbs' chief of staff, has mocked it.
NATO aircraft, he said, could "run at full speed over Bosnia while the Serbs continue to do their job, to keep their territories and liberate them." But the general is no fool. He also remarked that the aircraft now patrolling Bosnia's skies are on reconnaissance, preparing the way for future military intervention, including the bombing of strategic targets.
Some U.N. men are inclined to agree. "They are looking at gun emplacements and making grids," said one senior official. "And not just that. You should see our headquarters in Zagreb. Some of my colleagues are very upset that they are being tossed out of their nice offices for the NATO men who are taking over."

The above quote is from:
"The Economist Newspaper"
(Distributed by the New York Times Special Features)
Title: "MORALE OF U.N. OFFICIALS HITS ROCK BOTTOM OVER BOSNIA MORASS"
Friday, April 16, 1993
(NYT-04-16-93 0241EDT)

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Great! The World Policeman is born! Now two million Bosnia and Krajina Serbs are to fight two million Bosnian Muslims, four million Croats and close to billion strong most industrially powerful nations of NATO. Plus more than billion Muslims of the world. Two million against two billion!
What a beautiful coalition these NATO countries are! With the exception of few tiny countries like Greece, Iceland, Luxembourg and Norway these are colonial countries; the self proclaimed rulers of the World. Through centuries of pillage, land-grab and genocide these countries amassed enough wealth to keep, for ever, in "Might is Right" games.
How nice that Germany, which instigated two world wars and which attacked and tried to conquer and subdue the Serbian people for two times in twentieth century were ready to change their Constitution so they have free hand to do it again. During World War II, it was Nazi Germans who supervised one of the worst holocausts of the war - the extermination of Bosnian Serbs. The Nazi Germans helped their Islam fundamentalist friends then, and, by never learning the notion of SHAME, they are to help them again.
Who are we missing? Oh, Turkey! Turkey "ruled by atrocity," as some Western books say, over Christian Serbs, for over FOUR CENTURIES in Bosnia! Local traitors, Bosnian Muslims, are actually their creation.
After four centuries of atrocity in Bosnia
Turkey did not have enough of Serb suffering 
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ANKARA, April 9, Reuter - NATO-member Turkey is willing to send a squadron of fighter jets to help enforce a U.N. no-fly zone over Bosnia, state-run radio quoted the government spokesman as saying on Friday.
"If NATO makes a formal request from Turkey to help secure air security over Bosnia (the government) is ready to authorise the despatch of a squadron of 18 F-16s," State Minister Akin Gonen said after an overnight cabinet meeting.
The 16-nation alliance decided on Thursday to start patrols over Bosnia from 1200 GMT on Monday using planes from the United States, France and the Netherlands.
The Turkish government secured parliament's approval in December to send military forces to Bosnia...

The above quote is from:
"Reuter"
Title: "TURKEY READY TO SEND FIGHTER SQUADRON TO BOSNIA"
Friday, April 9, 1993
(RTw 04/09 0252)

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Jihad calls to punish the Serbs 

As Srebrenica fall was coming closer, the threats, coming both from West and Middle East became louder.
Its a Holy War!
Let us support mujahedin! 
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[Bosnia Muslim leader] Alija Izetbegovic said "Islamic countries should give more help to fellow Muslims in Bosnia-Herzegovina." Saudia Arabia provided significant humanitarian aid...
Speaking in Riyadh, Saudi capital, Izetbegovic said: "Bosnian Muslims are fighting a holy war to defend themselves against Serb attacks. They do not need soldiers from other countries, but wanted wider Islamic support when they next ask the U.N. to lift its arms embargo."
As he put it "we have many boys willing to fight, we need arms."

The above quote is from:
"BBC"
(BBC, 16h GMT, 11 April 1993)

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LONDON (APRIL 13, 1993), UPI - Former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher called on the British government Tuesday to begin arming Bosnian Muslims to allow them to defend themselves against the Serbian advance in Bosnia-Herzegovina.
A rearmed Bosnian Muslim force, Thatcher said, should be supported by an ultimatum delivered to the Serbs to accept the U.N.-brokered peace plan or face military retaliation.
"The present policy of humanitarian aid, plus negotiations, plus trying to get a cease-fire clearly hasn't worked... We can't go on with this policy - namely feeding people but leaving them to be massacred," she told the British Broadcasting Corp.
She said arming the Muslims would end the conflict, and she cited the example of the U.S.-backed mujahideen in Afghanistan, who eventually ousted Soviet forces...

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BOSTON Apart from humanitarian concern, President Clinton has a profound stake in the horror of Bosnia. It is the world's belief in his will to use American power.
Belief in American power has for many years been the most effective deterrent to international aggression. It is more crucial than ever in an increasingly chaotic world, a world with only one superpower.
... The right course for Clinton is clear, and doable: Tell the Serbs to stop the sieges of Srebrenica and Sarajevo at once. And if they ignore the ultimatum, use American air power to take out their guns.
If Srebrenica falls, Clinton and the credibility of American power in the world will also be victims.

The above quote is from:
"The New York Times News Service"
Title: ABROAD AT HOME: THE CLINTON CHALLENGE
Author: ANTHONY LEWIS
Sunday, April 11, 1993
(NYT-04-11-93 2000EDT)

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In Vancouver, British Columbia, President Clinton's spokesman, George Stephanopoulos, said the American leader "deeply believes" Serbs must be punished for aggression in Bosnia.

The above quote is from:
"The Associated Press"
Title: "Sarajevo Airlift Resumes; Srebrenica Officials Block Evacuation"
Author: John Daniszewski
April 4, 1993
(AP-DS-04-04-93 2007EDT)

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Calls multiplied from Western politicians for air strikes in Bosnia and Belgian Foreign Minister Willy Claes warned they could continue "in the direction of Belgrade" if Srebrenica fell.

The above quote is from:
"Reuter"
Title: "U.N. TROOPS TO DISARM MOSLEM UNDER SREBRENICA CEASEFIRE"
Author: Mark Heinrich
Sunday, April 18, 1993

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The Clinton team began the presidential transition eager to reverse [sic] the Bush policy. Bosnia was the subject of Presidential Review Directive 1, the first issue on the White House's foreign policy agenda. The issue was considered so important, it was sent directly to "the principals," a committee made up of Secretary of State Warren Christopher; Aspin; the director of central intelligence, R. James Woolsey; Vice President Al Gore; Powell; and Madeleine K. Albright, the U.N. delegate. The administration instructed the State Department and Pentagon to draw up the broadest possible list of options, but many were quickly discarded...
At the administration's orders, the Pentagon drew up a list of possible bombing targets, including the [Bosnian Serb] artillery around Sarajevo, bridges [on river Drina] between Bosnia and Serbia, and targets deep in Serbia.

The above quote is from:
"The New York Times News Service"
Title: CLINTON'S BOSNIA DILEMMA: PEACE PLAN COLLAPSE AGAIN RAISES ISSUE OF USING FORCE
Authors: Stephen Engelberg with Michael R. Gordon
Saturday, April 3, 1993
(NYT-04-03-93 1647EST)

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Bomb the Christian Serbs
to satisfy Muslim fundamentalists 
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Muslim fundamentalism is a mounting concern in many countries, also with a connection to Western impotence in Bosnia. The Arab world has long believed that the West has a double standard for Israelis and Palestinians. If Muslims come to believe that the West wrote off Bosnia's Muslims, allies like Turkey could turn away from the West, with negative strategic consequences.
Sooner or later, unresolved resentments come home to roost. Muslim terrorists bombed the World Trade Center in New York City [for the first time, on February 26, 1993, at 12:18PM] to protest what they saw as American complicity in humiliations in the Middle East. Everything is connected, and sooner or later Europe and the West may have to pay a price for their impotence in the Balkans.

The above quote is from:
"The New York Times News Service"
Title: PARALYSIS IS CATCHING: GRIDLOCK IN THE PEACE BUSINESS
Author: Craig R. Whitney
Monday, April 5, 1993
(NYT-04-05-93 0926EDT)

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More to come....
Western powers pretend
to be looking for peaceful solution 

In this farce hand-picked anti-Serb bigot David Owen (of Britain) and his personal friend Cyrus Vance (of United States) pretend to be neutral negotiators. They devise a "peace plan" for Bosnia. In his book, a few years later, Owen will shamelessly admit that the first goal of the plan was to punish the Serbs and to deny Serbian people right for self-determination. The representatives of the Old and New Evil Empire will try to shove the plan down Serbian throat. The Serbs would be idiots to accept such suicidal plan. Everyone expects them to refuse it. This would be used to "prove" that the Serbs do not want, or value peace.
Holding population of Serbia - hostage! 

Using astonishing logic, the Western powers decide to keep population of Serbia as hostage. If Bosnian Serbs refuse the plan - the Serbs of Serbia and Montenegro (the remaining part of Federal Yugoslavia) will be punished with even more draconian sanctions.
Throw Serbia off the planet! 
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PARIS, April 17, Reuter - France said on Saturday rebel Bosnian Serbs were on the verge of capturing the Moslem town of Srebrenica and called for immediate United Nations and European action to isolate Serbia...
Foreign Minister Alain Juppe demanded in a television interview the adoption of a draft Council resolution totally isolating Serbia, saying it could no longer be delayed by Russian reservations.
He also hinted at a prospect of military action against Serb forces, saying words might not be enough. Defence Minister Francois Leotard broke off his weekend to return to Paris for urgent consultations on Bosnia, officials said.
In London, a government spokeswoman said British Prime Minister John Major discussed the Bosnian crisis with French President Francois Mitterrand on Saturday and would talk to U.S. President Bill Clinton on Sunday.
"All possible steps must be taken to protect the population of Srebrenica," she said. Britain was also pressing for a new resolution on tougher sanctions from the Council early next week "if it is not possible to adopt it over the weekend."
Juppe, quoting information from the French high command, said Serb troops were within one km (half a mile) of the centre of Srebrenica, "which, since it is a small town, means they are in the suburbs and the town may fall at any moment."
He added: "The Serbs don't give a damn for the international community... That is why we demand today that the U.N. Security Council vote at the earliest possible moment the resolution which totally isolates Serbia from the rest of the world."
The adoption of the resolution, which would close all road, river, trade and telecommunications links with Serbia, was last week postponed until April 26 at the request of Russia, partly to help President Boris Yeltsin win a referendum on his powers.
Juppe said France regarded the assault on Srebrenica as a turning point in the year-old Bosnian conflict that justified over-riding the Russian reservations.
He also said he would take initiatives to press the European Community to look at ways to increase the economic, diplomatic and political isolation of Serbia.
Asked about suggestions by the United States and EC mediator Lord Owen that the West should use selective bombing against the Serbs, he said France did not want to endanger its 5,000 troops on the ground with U.N. peace- keeping forces in ex-Yugoslavia.
But he added: "We naturally do not rule out going further, if necessary, to put an end to this unacceptable, barbarian and inhuman behaviour of the Bosnian Serbs..."

The above quote is from:
"Reuter"
Title: "FRANCE CALLS FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION AGAINST SERBIA"
Author: Paul Taylor
April 17, 1993

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Just as Bosnian Serbs decide not to crush Srebrenica - the "neutral" NATO will use the UN to impose the deadly sanctions. Unknown thousands of Serbian children and elderly, the weakest portion of population, will perish without medicine. The worst traitor of Russian people of all times, Yeltsin and his gang will not veto the sanctions. These are supposedly the "allies" the Serbs have.
Western powers pretend
to be concerned for Bosnian Muslim civilians 

The Western powers are supposedly concerned for well being of civilian population of besieged Srebrenica. Who do they send to protect them? They send French Foreign Legion veteran, general Philippe Morillon. This is the same legion that was infamous for their atrocities committed on African Muslims. In this farce he will, somehow, find warm heart for the Bosnian Muslims.
The Western powers, soaked in genocide, will claim that the Serbs would massacre Srebrenica Muslims once they enter the town. The Serbs, who in their entire history never (ever!) committed mass atrocity against any civilian population, will offer to let any Muslim civilian (excluding, of course, the war criminals who massacred Serb population) to leave. Muslims are in desperate position in Srebrenica run by thugs. The thugs decide they need civilians to hide behind them. If civilians are to leave it would be called "ethnic cleansing." The UN/NATO officials comply. Who damn cares about Muslim civilians, there is Jihad going on and Allah never cared how many souls will have to meet him if the land is to be won for Islam.
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Those sources are not good? How about some OFFICIAL UN DOCUMENTS:
 
The UN Security Council Document:
A/46/171
S/25635
2 June 1993
Distibution: GENERAL
MEMORANDUM ON WAR CRIMES
AND CRIMES AND GENOCIDE IN EASTERN BOSNIA
(COMMUNES OF BRATUNAC, SKELANI AND SREBRENICA)
COMMITTED AGAINST THE SERBIAN POPULATION
FROM APRIL 1992 TO APRIL 1993
 
ORIGINAL: ENGLISH
GENERAL ASSEMBLY
Forty-eighth session
Item 115 (c) of the preliminary list*
HUMAN RIGHTS QUESTIONS: HUMAN RIGHTS
SITUATIONS AND REPORTS OF SPECIAL
RAPPORTEURS AND REPRESENTATIVES
SECURITY COUNCIL
Forty-eighth year

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Letter dated 24 may 1993 from the Charge d’affaires a.i. of the Permanent Mission of Yugoslavia to the United Nations addressed to the Secretary-General.
I have the honour to transmit herewith the text of a memorandum on war crimes and crimes of genocide in eastern Bosnia (communes of Bratunac, Skelani and Srebrenica) committed against the Serbian population from April 1992 to April 1993, deposited with the State Commission for War Crimes (see annex).**

I should be grateful if you would have the present letter and its annex circulated as an official document of the General Assembly, under item 115 (c) of the preliminary list and of the Security Council.
 
(Signed) Dragomir Djokic
Ambassador
Charge d'affaires a.i.
* A/46/50.
** The annex is being circulated in the original language of submission only.
93-72570 (E) 070693 080693
YUGOSLAV STATE COMMISSION
FOR WAR CRIMES AND GENOCIDE

ANNEX
MEMORANDUM
ON WAR CRIMES AND CRIMES AND GENOCIDE IN EASTERN BOSNIA
(COMMUNES OF BRATUNAC, SKELANI AND SREBRENICA) COMMITTED AGAINST THE SERBIAN POPULATION FROM APRIL 1992 TO APRIL 1993
Belgrade, April 1993

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CONTENTS
INPRODUCTION ................................... 3
SURVEY OF PREVIOUS CRIMES ...................... 4
CRIMES AGAINST THE SERBS IN 1992 AND 1993 ...... 7
Destruction of villages ........................ 9
The plight of the villagers ................... 19
Massacred persons ............................. 41
DESPROYED PERSONAL PROPERTY AND GOODS ......... 47
REFUGEES ...................................... 50
PERPETRATORS OF CRIMES .........................52
STATEMENTS OF WITNESSES ....................... 81

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Introduction
The Serbian population inhabiting the part of eastern Bosnia called Podrinje (the Drina river valley) comprising the communes of Bratunac and Srebrenica, and of late also the commune of Skelane is subjected to constant pressures and a depopulation process.
Since a long time ago, one could say for centuries, the Drina river has marked, the frontier between the Serbian state, stretching along its right bank and the various states that replaced one another under various occupations on its left bank and in the region of Bosnia-Herzegovina. Invariably, all occupying powers in the past sought, without much regard for the means employed, to move and remove the Serbs from Bosnia farther away . from its border with Serbia. This lies at the root of the intensified cleansing of the Serbian population from these territories. A consequence of the intensified ethnic cleansing in Podrinje is the almost radical alteration of the national structure of the population with Serbs accounting for a lower and lower share.
Ethnic cleansing, repeated persecution and the destruction of everything Serbian, starting from the people themselves, to their settlements and property makes us duty-bound to tell everyone who is interested in our fate about it.
It goes without saying that the documents we have available are neither complete nor final. The war is still not over, the suffering of the people continues, and new victims are falling every day here. However, what is already known, what has happened over this period of less than a year, has the proportions of a human and material disaster unseen even by those who witnessed past wars. It is therefore incumbent on us to testify about that catastrophe, at least with what documentation we possess at the moment, which we managed to collect under quite difficult conditions.
SURVEY OF PREVIOUS CRIMES
In the two last world wars alone the number of civilian victims among the Serbs in Bosnia-Herzegovina was unmatched by any European people in the same period in proportion to their size. As throughout the previous, decades under Austro-Hungarian rule the Serbs would not accept to be its subjects, at the outbreak of the 1914 war they were declared arch-traitors. Court processes began throughout Bosnia immediately thereafter.
From these parts or from what then was the Srebrenica district, about 20 Serbs were convicted for arch-treason. They were all eminent men from this region. Two of them were Orthodox priests. The fate of the archpriest Milan Petkovic is in point of fact symbolic of that of many Serbs from Bosnia and from this particular region. He spent the First World War serving a prison sentence, he survived that war, but not the next one. In the second world war he was arrested again, taken to Dahau and ended his life in a gas chamber.
Those Serbs who were not tried at staged processes and sent to prison were subjected to other methods of annihilation and. persecution. Under the Austro-Hungarian rule several thousand Serbian families either fled or were banished. Apart from the authorities, local Moslems and Croats comprising the (paramilitary) formations of the Green cadre and the Shutz corps directly expelled these people. Few of these exiles retuned after the war.
The most cruel method of deportation was to camps. Such notorious camps for Serbs from Bosnia were Arad, Sapronyek, Nezyder... In Arad alone, to which the first transport set out in August 1914, almost 200 people of Serbian nationality from the Srebrenica district lost their lives. In addition to adult men, civilians, children, women ,the elderly and whole families perished.
After all these persecutions, according to the first population census taken after the war and the creation of Yugoslavia, the Serbian population was reduced to only about 50% of the total number of inhabitants of the Srebrenica district, i.e. territories covered today by the communes of Srebrenica, Bratunac and Skelane.
The new war was to bring a new exodus.
Almost the same occupiers and their, also the same, collaborators saw to that. The Srebrenica district as in fact the rest of Bosnia-Herzegovina were given in WWII to the Hitlerite creation of the Independent State of Croatia headed by its Poglavnik Ante Pavelic.
It is not possible to make a list of Serbian victims in the Srebrenica district either. Estimates range between 3,000 and 6,000 persons. Some testimony is provided by monuments erected in purely Serbian villages and in churchyards where the names of the sufferers are inscribed. Such inscriptions could have been found in more than 20 Serbian villages up to this latest assault on the Serbian people openly launched by the Moslems in the spring of 1992. Even on the monument in Srebrenica itself , in which after WWII the Moslems accounted for the majority, the names of 145 killed Serbs, of which 36 children under 7, are written. The genocidal campaign against the Serbian people left in its wake burned and razed to the ground almost all Serbian villages and all villagers who did not manage to escape were killed , very often in a bestial way. Ustashi and Domobran (home guardsmen) Croatian-Moslem fascist legions destroyed and devastated the villages of Zalazje, Brezane, Ocenovici, Srpska Kamenica, Zivkovici, Sikiric , Zljebac, Srpski Pribidoli , Podravanje, Fakovici, Kravica, Zabukovci, Banjevici, Slapaslnica, Popovici ... (It is also in this area that Drinjaca was, from which Pavelic was sent by his faithful Ustashi as Malaparte writes in his novel "Skin" a present of a keg of gouged out Serbian eyes). Already at the beginning of 1942 there were virtually no Serbs in the Srebrenica district except for few who managed to survive hidden in the mountains and in camps in the woods.
During the years of the Second World War the Srebrenica district was ethnically cleansed of Serbs and belonged wholly to the followers of Islam.
The results of the genocide against the Serbian people in the Srebrenica district became evident after WW II and the renewal of Yugoslavia. Once dominant in numbers, the Serbian people found itself in a minority after WWII hardly reaching one third of the total number of inhabitants.
It is important to note that in Yugoslavia, after the wars and the irrefutable crimes against the Serbian people not denied by anyone in peace either, no records of the victims or of the criminals were established. Most of the perpetrators of these genocidal acts went free. In the Srebrenica district only about 15 so-called collaborators of the occupying forces were registered of which only some were given symbolic sentences and served some time in prison. We would not be mentioning this if new butchers and killers were not being recruited afresh from the same families (the family Kamenica, from Jaglici, the family Salikovic from Biljaca, or the family Zukic also from Biljaca).
CRIMES AGAINST THE SERBS IN 1992 AND 1993
The aim of the terror the Serbs are now exposed to is the same as during the previous wars. It is to expel now and for all the Serbs from these regions. That is why every attack on the Serbian villages leaves in its wake only desolation, burned buildings, looted and destroyed property, destroyed monuments, cemeteries and churches.
All the attacks so far were as a rule thoroughly prepared, they systematically mounted and carried out by large numbers of well-armed men. The target were initially smaller Serbian hamlets in nationally mixed villages, then isolated Serbian villages surrounded by Moslem ones, and finally the remaining Serbian settlements.
It seems that even the days when attacks take place are not left to chance. It is hard to believe that Orthodox festivals and family patron saint days (St. George's Day, St. Vitus' Day, St. Peter's Day, Christmas) when villagers are celebrating or days when they are busiest working on their farms are chosen for no reason whatsoever.
This tactics has been confirmed by all subsequent events.
The first victims of attacks on Serb territories and the Serbian people were the hamlets of Gniona in the commune of Srebrenica and of Bljeceva in the commune of Bratunac on May 6, 1992. (on St. George's Day), followed by attacks on other Serbian villages, and on January 7 , 1993 (Christmas), the last large Serbian villages in the vicinity of Skelane and Bratunac were run over and destroyed. Even before the autumn of 1992 the commune of Srebrenica had been almost completely ethnically cleansed of Serbs. The following Serb settlements in that commune were destroyed and burnt down: Blazijevici (133 inhabitants of Serb nationality), Bebuljice (52), Bozici (152), Brezani (271), Brezovica (64), Bujakovici (166), Cicevci (180), Gaj (187), Gladovici (538), Godjevici (33), Gostilj (113), Kostolomci (234), Krnjici (114), Medje (130), Obadi (684), Orahovica (334) Osredak (195), Podravanje (413), Postolje (107), Pribidoli (207), Pribojevici (124), Radosevici (201), Ratkovici (338), Toplica (254), Viogor (99), Zabokvica (590) as well as all Serb hamlets in nationally mixed villages.
The Serbs started fleeing Srebrenica itself as early as Apri1, and already by mid-May the town was ethnically clean. Only some ten older persons are there today (if they are still alive).
A particularly massive exodus started after May 8 and the killing of Goran Zekic, Serb deputy to the then Assembly of Bosnia- Herzegovina. His car was waylaid by the Moslems and riddled by fire in the immediate vicinity of Srebrenica. After that the remaining Serbs in the city had to flee for their 1ives. Hardly anyone managed to take away even the bare minimum of personal belongings. The Serb population of Srebrenica and its surroundings is now in exile and this commune has been cleansed of the Serbian nation.
Only three Serb villages have remained: Crvica (475), Lijesce (97) and Petrica (135). Of a total of 9390 Serbs who used to live in this commune, only about 860 have remained ( in addition to the mentioned villages this figure includes the inhabitants of Skelani), or a symbolic 9%.
The same fate befell the villages in the commune of Bratunac. Exceptions are only the villages of Dubravice (398 iahabitants of Serb nationality), Jelah (23), Krasanovici (155), Pobrdje (196), Polom (436); Rakovac (25S), Repovac (458) and Slapasnica (446) which have managed to survive and are today, besides the villagers, inhabited by a certain number of refugees from the surrounding destroyed Serb villages. The Serbs have not been expelled from two communal centres Bratunac and Skelani, places on the banks of the Drina river. Of a total of about 11,500 Serbs in the commune of Bratunac only 5,391 or about 47% were not driven out of their homes. After all the cleansings carried out so far the Serbs account for only 16% of the total population of this commune.
Testimony of the jihad campaigns of conquest are the almost totally destroyed villages of Banjevici (38 inhabitants of Serb nationality), Biljaca (17), Bjelovac (238), Bljeceva (71), Boljevici (415), Brana Bacici (236), Fakovici (115), Hranca (152), Jaketici (102), Jezestica (502), Kravica (353), Lipenovici (235), Loznica (132), Magasici (353), Mlecva (196), Mratinci (218), Opravdici (434), Sikiric (201), Stanatovici (206), Tegare (222), Vitkovici (200), Vranesevici (211), Zagoni (480) and Zlijebac (377).
The collective perpetrators of these crimes are Moslem military or paramilitary units, call them whatever you will, but in any case they are formations of bands comprising predominantly villagers from the surrounding Moslem villages and, in much smaller numbers, comers and mercenaries from the country or abroad. All the attempts of the Serbs who formed their own, usually small in number and poorly armed village guards, to defend these villages were unsuccessful.
The destruction of villages
It is almost impossible in such a brief survey to mention all the attacks, burning down and looting of Serb villages. As we have seen almost one hundred settlements with Serb population are in question. We nevertheless believe that a description of the desolation of just some of those villages and hamlets can be compelling evidence of their epopee. What happened to them is in some ways typical of the fate of the other settlements. If differences do exist, they mainly concern the names of the attackers, the perpetrators of the crimes, but not the final outcome of their attacks. And this final outcome are always killed people, plundered property, burned and destroyed villages.
The following examples testify to that:
BLJECEVA (commune of Bratunac), a village with an overwhelming Moslem majority in the total population (Moslems - 532, Serbs - 71) The attack on this village marked the beginning of a series of attacks by Moslem chauvinists on compact Serb settlements in the commune of Bratunac. The attack took place on May 6, 1992. The following were killed: Kosana [woman] (father Novak) Zekic, born in 1928 [64 years old], whose throat the attackers slit in her own house; Milan ([father' name] Milko) Zekic, died of the consequences of wounding and Gojko ([father] Lazar) Jovanovic, an [75 year] old man born in 1917, also died of injuries sustained during the attack. That part of Bljeceva has been abandoned by the Serb population who fled the village and are now living in exile. Their property was plundered and taken away to the surrounding Moslem villages and their houses burned. The direct, collective perpetrators of the attack are Moslems from surrounding Moslem villages and from Bljeceva itself, among whom their leader Hasib Ibrahimovic, and Fuzo Dzelic, Meho Cosic, Ismet Jasarevic, Sacir Memisevic and Ibran Muratovic have been recognized.
GNIONA (commune of Srebrenica), a hamlet of the predominantly Serb village of Gostilj (113 Serbs, 35 Koslems). The attack was made also on May 6, 1992. That was the first burned down and razed Serb village in the commune of Srebrenica. The attack was made by Moslems from the neighbouring village of Potocari under the command of Naser Oric, the leader of Moslem fundamentalists from Srebrenica. The victims of the attack were Lazar (Milivoje) Simic, born in 1936 from Studenac, a guest at his friends' family festival (St. George's Day) and Radojko (Rajko) Milosevic, born in 1928, from Gniona, an ill and almost blind man who was celebrating St. George's Day. Radojko Milojkovic was set to fire alive and burned in his house, before the very eyes of his wife and the villagers who had fled to the nearby woods. Testimony on the tragedy of this village is given by Marko Slijepcevic and Miladin Vukadinovic (Statements on page 81) . The direct perpetrators that have been recognized are mainly their neighbours Rifat Korovic, Ibro Mujkanovic, Ibro Osmanovic, Behadin Mujkanovic.
OPARCI (commune of Srebrenica) a Serb hamlet of the 'village of Brezovica in which Moslems are the majority population (64 Serbs, 462 Moslems). The hamlet of Oparci was attacked on June 1, 1992 and six villagers of Serb nationality were killed on that occasion: Dragic ([father's name] Dragutin) Ilic, born in 1939,the brothers Ratko ([born in] 1942) and Ugljesa (1939) Ilic (father Momcilo), Zivojin (Cvijetin) Petrovic (1917), Milorad (Drago) Petrovic (1923) and Dikosava (Drago) Petrovic (1932) whose throat was slit. All Serbian houses, 22 of them, were burned down. The attack on the hamlet and the crimes were committed by Moslems from Brezovica and the neighbouring villages of Mosevici, Skenderovici, Pirici and Zapolje. Their leader Akif Ustic was identified as well as Huso Salihovic, Eajrudin Halihodzic, Abudlah Alic alias "Dule" from Brezovica itself, Sevdalija Begic from Pirici and Velkaz Husic. Miloje Petrovic from the same village testifies to the crimes.
RATKOVICI (commune of Srebrenica), a Serb village with 338 inhabitants, attacked on June 21, 1992, when 18 villagers were killed - five women and three older men between 64 and 71 years of age: Obren (Vojislav) Bogicevic (1932), Stanoje (Vladislav) Stanojevic (1949), Desanka [woman] (Rade) Stanojevic, burned in her house, Nikola (Todor) Stanojevic (1958), Radenko (Milorad) Stenojevic (1940), throat slit, Vidosava [woman] (Luka) Djurid (1930), Vidoje (Obrad) Rankic (1928), Milutin (Obrad) RankiC (1944), Ranko (Obrad) Rankic (1933), Vinka [woman] (Filip) Maksimovid (1927), Dragomir (Milorad) Maksimovic. (1949), Radomir (Milorad) Maksimovic (1942), succumbed to torture, Cvijtta (Risto) Milanovic (1925), Novka [woman] (Milorad) PavloviC (1945), Bora (Drago) Prodanovic (1941), Zivana [woman] (Petar) Prodanovic (1966), Milovan (Joso) Pavlovic (1919) and Milan (Stojan) ' Jakovljevic (1920). The Moslem families of Pozdanovic, Medic, Podkorjenovica, Martic, Osrnanovic,are guilty of the crimes, attack and looting and the individuals recognized are Mehmed, called "Kadic" after his mother's maiden name from Dedici, and Hiajrudin Osmanovic from Podkorijen. Obren Pavlovic and Zarja Prodanovic testify to the ordeals of the village of Ratkovici.
LOZNICA (the commune of Bratunac), predominantly a Serb village (132 Serbs, 22 Moslems), attacked,looted and burned down by the Moslems in several instances, and had a large number of victims. The most severe attacks were on June 28 and December 14, 1992. From the beginning of the Moslem campaign this village lost 31 villagers or almost a fourth of the total number of Serb inhabitants (23.4%). The following lost their lives: Nebojsa (Petko) Vucetic ([born in] 1972), Jovan (Gavrilo) Milovanovic (1930), Srecko (Radivoje) Milovanovid (1943) , Miloje (Mitar) Damjanovic ( 1971), Djordjo (Milisav) Filipovic (1949), Zivan (Vladimir) Pilipovic (1954), [woman] Verica (Zivan) Filipovic (1975), Radovan (Milan) Lukic (1950), Milenko (Nedeljko) Nikolic (1963), Milorad (Misa) Rancevic (1960), Svetozar (Sreten) Vucetic (1957), [woman] Jelena Stojanovic (1952), [woman] Jelena (Zivojin) Stanojevic (1953) , Drago (Miladin) Jovanovic (1962), Milic (Vidoje) Ilic (1972), Todor (Milovan) Nikolic (1951), Slavomir ( Radivoje) Damnjanovic (1971), Nedeljko (Svetozar) Damnjanovic (1959), Dragan (Dragoljub) Filipovic (1969) , Dragoljub (Mlisav) Filipovic (1942), Milan (Petko) Jovanovic (1948), Djoko (Petko) Jovanovic (1956), Milos (Veselin) Jovanovic (1928), Zeljko (Vojislav) KneZevic (1966), [woman] Kristina (Ceda) Lukic (1948), Bojan Milkovski (1938), Madjen (Bozidar) Petrovic ( 1958), Midorag (Bogdan) Petrovic (1948), Boro (Krsto) Todorovic (1949), Milenko (Radovan) Vucetic (1975) and Radovan (Savo) Vucetic (1943). In the attacks carried out so far, surviving villagers identified the following attackers: Alija (Mujo) Ibric, alias Kurta, Besim (Avdo) Salihovic, Bidan (Avdo) Salihovic, Regid (Rahman) Sinanovic, Sadik (Salih) Zukid, Bajrudin (Alija) Begzadib, Ramiz (Idriz) Kamenica, Munib (Idriz) Kamenica, Esma (Ibis) Kiverid, Hajrudin (Hilmo) Malagid, Midhad (Edhem) Salihovic, Adil(Avdo) Salihovic, Edhem (Ramo) Salihovic, Fikret (Edhen) Salihovic, Muriz (Rahman) Sinanovic, Rifet Salihovic, Edhem (Ramo) Salihovic, Eulija Zukie, Rifet Daubasic, Hasan Daubasic, Mirsad Malagid, Medo Elalagic, Senada Sinanovic, Omerovid called “MiS” (The Mouse). The following witnessed the attacks and the carnage in this village: Stanoje Milanovic, Vitomir Vucetic, Zvonko Filipovic, Mileva Miladinovic, Slavka Matik, Nedjo Petrovic, Janja Simic, and Stoja Petrovic. (statements on pages 82 to 89 and 114.)
BREZANI (commune of Srebrenica), predominantly a Serb village; 271 Serbs, 5 Moslems; attacked on June 30, 1992, when 19 villagers of Serb nationality were killed: Radovan ([father's name] Djole) Petrovic ([born in] 1923); Milos (Rade) Novkovic (1956), found with head cut off and buried like that, [73 year old woman] Dostana Lazic ([born in] 1919), Djuka (Pavle) Lazic ( 1935), Vidoje (Pavle) Lazic (1937), crucified and burned, [woman] Kristina Lazic, burned in her house, Milenko (Ilija) Dragicevic (1974), Ljubomir (Milenko) Josipovic (1975), Milos (Vlado) Krstajic (1937), Pero (Vlado) Krstajic (1935), Stanko (Luka) Milosevic, Vidoje (Milovan) Milosevic (1974), Milivoje (Dragisa) Mitrovic (1930), Stanoje (Milivoje) Mitrovic (1963), Milisav (Mika) Rankic (1947), burned in his house, Dragosav (Milisav) Rankic (1974), burned in his house, Mirko (Milisav) Rankic (1972), also burned in his house, Milomir (Vladislav) Stevanovic (1946), Dragan (Stjepan) Stjepanovic (1961). The village was burned and destroyed. All the cattle were taken away and there were over 200 cows alone. The attack on Brezane was led by Hakija Meholjic, Akif Ustic and Hugo Balinovic and Vehbija Jahic, whose father was an Ustashi in the past war too’, was also identified. Milorad Marjanovic from the same village testifies about the attack. (Statement on page 90.)
ZAGONI (commune of Bratunac) a village with a majority Serb population (480 Serbs, 103 Moslems). Attacked several times and fared like the village of Loznica. The attacks of July 5 and 12, 1992 had especially tragic consequences when over 20 villagers were killed: [53 years old woman] Ljubica ([father's name] Milovan) Milosevic ([born in] 1939), Milos (Jovan) Milosevic (1932), Rada (Ilija) Milosevic (1968) who was massacred, Cedomir (Blagoje) Tanasijevic (1942), Rajko, (Sreten) Gvozdenovic (1927), Dragoljub (Miladin) Gvozdenovic (1954), Blagoje (Milorad) Gvozdenovic (1944), Rada (Radoje) Gvozdenovic (1973), [80 years old woman!] Mileva (Milorad) Dimitric ([born in] 1912), Marko (Mitar) Dimitric (1974), Matija (Stevan) Jaginski (1940), Miodrag (Ilija) Malovic (1943), Mihajlo (Jefta) Mihajlovic (1951), [38 years old woman] Dusanka Paunovic (1954) killed by a sledgehamer, Milovan (Mirko) Dimitric (1962), Miodrag (Jakov) Jovanovic (1952), DuSan (Zivojin) Milosevic (1963), Djordja (Aleksa) Milosevic (1934), Vidosav (Branko) Milosevic (1968), Dragisa (Milko) Milosevic (1963), Miodrag (Milko) Milosevic (1970). Villagers from the surrounding Moslem villages took part in the attack on Zagoni and the following were identified: Muriz Muratovic, Meho Oric, Idriz Muratovic, the son of Nurija Muratovic nicknamed "Spica", Zulfo Tursunovic; an ex-convict, convicted of murder and now one of the commanders, Ramo Babajic, etc. The village was looted and burned. These events were witnessed by: Tatomir Gvozdenovic, Miladin Gvozdenovic, Dragan Gvozdenovic, BoZana Gvozdenovic and Goran Krstic, all of them from Zagoni. (Statements on pages 92 to 98.)
KRNJICI (commune of Srebrenica), predominantly a Serb village (114 Serbs, 11 Moslems), attacked and destroyed on July 5, 1992. Sixteen villagers were killed on that occasion: Boban ([father's name] Spasoje) Lazarevic ([born in] 1965), Sredoje (Nedeljko) Jovanovic (1947), Miroslav Jovanovic, Dragutin (Milos) Dimitrijevic (1961), Srpko (Novak) Aksic (1972), Rade (Petko) Trimanovic (1961), Rados (Mirko) Maksimovic (1968), Milenko (Risto) Maksinovic, Milos (Ostoja) Milosevic (1961), Nebojsa (Zoran) Milosevic (1975), [woman] Milja Micic, [80 years old man] Vaso Poraca ([born in] 1912), his throat was slit, Ilija Simic, Veljko (Milisav) Simic (1953), Vlajko (Petar) Vladic (1934) and [woman] Soka Vujic who was fomd killed by a pitchfork.
ZALAZJE, a hamlet in the hediate vicinity of Srebrenica, 39 persons were killed in the attack on July 12, 1992: Svetozar ([father's name] Cvijetin) Lakic ([born in] 1951), Dusan (Slobodan) Blagojevic (1946), Radinka (Dragomir) Cvjetinovic (1952), massacred, Ivan (Ranko) Cvjetinovic (1953), Svetislav (Tadija) Dragicevic (1949), Zeljko (Milorad) Giljevic (1970), Nedeljko (Desimir) Gligic (1948), Ljubisav (Nikola) Gligoric (1962), Aleksa (Milos) Gordic (1945), Slobodan (Milan) Ilic (1946), Milisav (Sreten) Ilic (1957), Luka (Ljubomir) Jeremic (1927), Ratko (Milos) Jeremic (1969), Marko (Ratko) Jeremic (1965), Radovan (Ratko) Jeremic (1963), Milovan (MaliSa) Lazarevic (1946), Momir (Stanko) Lazarevic (1955), Branislav (Aleksandar) Pavlovic (1947), Gojko (Yugoslav) Petrovic (1963), Dragomir (Borisav) Rakic (1957), Svetozar (Cvijetin) Rakic (1951), Momcilo (Ljubomir) Rakic (1949), Miodrag (Ljubomir) Rakic (1959) , Mile (Momcilo) Rakic (1966), Branko (Gojko) Simic (1959), Petko (Gojko) Simic (1963), Miladin (Vojin) Stanojevic (1929), Miroljub (Radivoje) Todorovic (1961), Radivoje (Bogoljub) Tomic (1950), Miladin (Rade) Tubic (1955), Radisav (Radovan) Vasiljevic (1963), Radisav (Radovan) Vasiljevic (1965), Bosko (Zivojin) Vujadinovic (1951), Vaso (Zivojin) Vujadinovic (1954), Nedeljko (Bogdan) Vujadinovic (1947), Dragomir (Miiovan) Vujadinovic (1947), Milovan (Slavoljub) Vujadinovic (1948), Dusan (Vaso) Vujadinovic (1940). The attack was carried out by Moslem paramilitary formations and territorial defence units under the command of Naser Oric. The other identified participants were Zulfo Tursunovic, Akif Ustic, Hakija Meholjic. Witness Velisav Vasic. (Statement on p. 99.)
MAGASIC (commune of Bratunac), a village with approximately the same number of Serbs and Moslems (353 Serbs, 292 Moslems). The Serbian part of the village was attacked several times, the most severe attacks on July 20 and 25, 1992. The following villagers were killed: Stojan ([father's name] Zivorad) Popovic (1967), Zivko (Vojislav) Cvjetinovic ([born in] 1950), [woman] Ljiljana (Dusan) Ilic (1975), [woman] Zorka (Marko) Ilic (1947), [woman] Milenija (Milorad) Ilic (1944), [woman] Ljubinka (Petar) Ilic (1952), Marjan (Radomir) Ilic (1963), [woman] Ljubica Milanovic, [85 year old man] Blagoje (Pero) Popovic (1907), [73 years old woman] Leposava (Risto) Popovic (1919), [woman] Ljubica (Zivorad) Mirkovic (1942), and Cvijetin (Nikolija) Djuricic. Six women yere killed in those two attacks. Among the attackers the villagers recognized : Meho Osmanovic, Saban Osmanovic, Camil Hasanovic, Senahid Avdic, Ramo Babajic, Hajrudin Osmanovic, Nedzib Osmanovic, Hajro Osmanovic, Heho Osmanovic, Mehidin Smailovic and others. Witnesses of this attack are: Vinka Bozic, Radomir Ilic, Rosa Bozic, Milka Bozic. (Statements on pages 101 to 104.)
JEZESTICA (commune of Bratunac), one of the larger purely Serb villages in this region (502 inhabitants of Serb nationality). The village was attacked on August 8, 1992. On that occasion fire was set to 55 Serb houses and nine villagers were killed: Vojin ([father's name] Rade) Bogicevic ([born in] 1929), Andjelko (Ljubomir) Mladjenovic (1965) body buried without the head, which was cut off and taken away by the attackers, Dragan (Ljubomir) Hladjenovic (1960), [woman] Savka (Obren) Hladjenovic (1931), Sreten (Milos) Rankovic (1962), Milan (Vlado) Rankovic (1935), [woman] Savka (Nedeljko) Stjepenovic (1951), [73 years old man] Milosav (Obrad) Stjepanovic (1919) and Srbo (Savan) Djuric (1944). The larger part of the village was plundered and burned. The second attack on this same village, i.e. on its remaining hamlets, took place on January 7 (on Christmas), 1993, when the following were killed: Radomir (Vujadin) Jovanovic (1959), Bosko (Mika) Djukanovic (1928), [woman] Nevenka (Risto) Djuksnovic (1946), Ivan (Vlado) Djukanovic (1954) and Krsto (Vlado) Djukanovic. Among the attackers the villagers recognized: Enver Alispahic, Hamdija Alispahic, Humin Adenovic, Bekto Kanenica, Dzemail Kamenica, Avdo Kamenica, Ramiz Kamenca, Munib Kamenica, Kemal Hehmedovic "Kemo" and Huso Zukic and Mustafa Zukic: Rade Stjepanovic and Rajko Jovanovic testify about the attacks on the village (statements enclosed, pages 105 to 108).
FAKOVICI (commune of Bratununac), a village with a predominant Serb population (115 Serbs, 33 Moslems), attacked on October 5, 1992, when 19 villagers were killed: [woman] Desanka ([father's name] Radoje) Bozic ([born in] 1924), [woman] Olga (Milovan) Markovic (1935), [woman] Slavka (MiloVan) Markovic (i931), Cuba NikoliC, [82 years old man] Danilo Djuric (1910), Miroslav (Milan) Ivanovic (1973). Radoje (Savo) Markovic (1941), Radomir (Stevo) Markovic (1939), Petko (Milovan) Nikolic (1954), Milovan (Sreten) Nikolic (1923), Radovan (Jovo) Savic (1965), Milomir (Blagoje) Subotic (1959); Milovan (Vlado) Djokic (1936), Sreten (Mileta) Djokic (1938), Djoko (Nedoljko) Djokic (1955), Svetozor (Sreten) Djokic (1965) and Vidoje (Radovan) Djukic (1954). The village was destroyed, robbed and burned. 0nly the desecrated church remained standing. The following participated in the attack on this village Akif Ustic, Esma Kivuric, Nasir Mamutovic, Ibrahim Hujkic. Witness: Zikic "Drago", postman in the village, (statement enclosed p. 109).
BOLJEVICI (commune of Bratunac), a Serb village (415 inhabitants of Serb nationality), attacked on the same day as Fakovici, i.e. October 5, 1992. The following were killed in that attack: [woman] Milja Despotovic, [woman] Petra Prodanovic ([born in] 1927), [woman] Stojka (Jovan) Stjepanovic (1922), [woman] Stanija Vasic (1930), Radovan (Sreto) Djukic (1922), Milutin (Ljubisav) Ristic (1940), Zarija (Novica) Ristic (1929), Vladan (Manojlo) Vasic (1929). The people killed were mainly old people guarding their homesteads, tending their cattle and looking after the holdings of their neighbours. Most of the population abandoned the village on account of constant threats by Islamic nationalists. Today it is an ash heap. Even the old men were killed. The villagers who survived identified the following attackers: Nasir Mamutovic, Ibraim Mujkic, Aris Ridjic. Witnesses: Radovan Ristic and Stojan Djokic.
BJELOVAC (commune of Bratunac), predominantly a Serb Village (238 Serbs, 51 Moslems), the fiercest attack was on December 14, 1992. On that occasion the village suffered massive human and material losses and is today mainly abandoned and deserted. In these Moslem attacks the following lost their lives: Zlatan ([father's name] Milenko) Bogicevic ([born in] 1975), Miodrag (Ilija) Cvijic (1972), Slobodan (Vitomir) Vitorovic, Stevo (Nedjo) Pilipovic (1951), Milisav (Ilija) Ilic (1957), Milun (Miso) Ilic (1939), [81 year old woman] Zlata (Milos) Jovanovic (1911), [woman] Radenka Jovanovid (1974), [woman] Vida (Radivoje) Lukic (1933), Miroslav Marincevic (19651, Radivoje (Ilija) Matic (1937), [35 years old woman] Gordana (Radivoje) Matic (1967), [33 years old woman] Snezana (Radivoje) Matic (1965), Mirko (Petko) Miladinovic (1971), Cedo (Petko) Miladinovic (1975), Slavko (Cedo) Milutinovic (1963), Slobodan (Ratko) Nedeljkovic (1970) , Mirko (Krsto) Petrovic (1920), Mirko (Milan) Petrovic (1972), Mitar (Ostoja) Savic (1954), Radovan (Sreten) Tanasic (1923), Rajko (Zika) Tomic (1955), Milorad (Zivorad) Tosic (1972), Zoran (Tomislav) Trisic (1968). The attack on Bjelovac took place at the same time as the already mentioned attack on Loznica, i.e. Loznicka Rijeka and Sikiric. These are neighbouring villages and the attackers are mainly the same ones. According to the testimony of the survivors the following attackers were identified: Alija Ibrid "Kurta", Hidan Salihovic, Besim Salihovic, Resid Sinanovic, Sadik Zukic, Haris Ahmetovic "Hari", Hajrudin Begzadic, Dzemail Kamenica, Ramiz Kamenica, Munib Kamenica, Esma Kiveric, Hajrudin Malagic, Midhat Salihovic, Adil Salihovic, Edhem Salihovic, Fikret Salihovic, Muriz Sinanovic, Rifet Salihovic, Edhem Salihovic and Mulija Zukic. Witnesses of the attack on this village are: Stoja Petrovic, Slavoljub Rankic and, Mira Pilipovic. (Statements enclosed, pp. 114 to 120.)
SIKIRIC (commune of Bratunac), a village with a negligible Moslem majority, 201 Serbs and 241 Moslems. Attacked like Loznica and Bjelovac on December 14, 1992. The victims of that attack were: Zivojin ([father's name] Blagoje) Ilic ([born in] 1928), [woman] Radojka (Kosta) Ilic (1935), Desimir (Nikodin) Matic (1928), Radovan (Bogosav) Mitrovic (1948), Srecko (Bogosav) Mitrovic (1946), Milomir (Bogoljub) Nedeljkovic (1940), Ljubisav (Obrad) Nedeljkovic (1925), Ratko (Svetislav) Nedeljkovic (1946), Slobodan (Miladin) Petrovic (1976), Dusan (Rade) Prodanovic (1931), [woman] Obrenija (Miladin) Rankic (1934), Zlatan (Ranko) Simic (1961), Zivadin (Svetolik) Simic (1946), Radisav (Svetolik) Simic (1937), [woman] Grozdana (Vasilije) Simic (1931), Dragisa (Branko) Stevanovic (1966), Radenko (Savo) Stojanovic (1973), Milomir (Ljubisav) Tanasic (1939), Milan (Petar) Tanasic (1957), [woman] Obrenija (Obrad) Trigic (1931), Novak (Srecko) Vuksic (1931). The perpetrators of these murders, looting and burning, have mainly already been listed. They are the attackers on the neighbouring villages of Loznica and Bjelovac. They are also identified by name by the witnesses Milisava Nikolic, Gvozdenija Matic, Ratko Nikolic and Predrag Nedeljkovic in their statements (enclosed, p. 121 to 131)
KRAVICA (commune of Bratunac) a purely Serb village (353 inhabitants of Serb nationality). The village was attacked on January 7 ([Orthodox] Christmas), 1993 and the following were killed: Milivoje Zivanovic, Slobodan ([father's name] Jovan) Bogicevic ([born in] 1945), Radojko (Ljubomir) Boqicevic (1954), Vojislav (Ljubomir) Bogicevic (1949), Ratko (Marko) Dadic (1954), Miladin (Dusan) Dolijanovic (1963), Negoslav (Mikailo) Eric, Kristina (Nikola) Eric, Pajkan (Paja) Gavric (1963) , Vladislav (Mirko) Janjic (1948) , Stojan (Mitar) Jovanovic (1948), Ratko (Dragomir) Miladinovic (1959), Djordjo (Dragomir) Miladinovic (1958), Gordan (Cvijetin) Nikolic (1958), Milovan (Todosije) Nikolic (1946), Milovan (Risto) Ostojic (1949), Mitar (Risto) Ostojic (1934), Dusan Petrovic, Risto (Kosta) Popovic (1920), Kostadin (Risto) Popovic (1947), Gojko Radovic, Rade (Ljuba) Radovic (1976), Dragan (Dragosav) Radovic (1968), Vaskrsije (Djordje) Radovic (1956) , Milan (Radovan) Stevanovic (1973), Vasilj (Petar) Todorovic (1955), Lazar (Kostadin) Veselinovic (1935), Stanoje (Stanko) Djokic (1941). Kravica too is today a devastated village which was not the case even during the fiercest German and Ustashi destructive campaigns in World War II. The surviving villagers and defenders of this village recognized the following among the numerous attackers: Zulfo Tursunovic, Nezir from Glogova, ex cattle hustler, Ohran's son Huso, Saban Music and others. Rajko Nikolic and Milorad Nikolic (statements on pages 126 and 132) testify about the attack which took place on January 7, 1993.
As already mentioned, the fate of these 16 villages is typical of the other destroyed Serb villages in this region. All of them were the victims of sudden attacks by their neighbours from the nearby Moslem vi11 ages.
The pliqht of the villagers
It is not yet possible to establish the exact number of killed people of Serb nationality. I t is estimated that up to March 1993 about 1,200 people were killed, and the number of injured and wounded, also according to estimates, ranges between 2,800 and 3,200 persons. Many of the injuries and wounds were caused by the frequent shelling of the remaining Serb villages, of Bratunac and Skelani, of many hamlets, as well as by sniper fire and numerous step mines, of which civilians are the victims.
Many of the killed were buried after the bodies were pulled out by family members and villagers abandoning the village, several tens of bodies were delivered by the Moslems to the Serbian side for burial, while others remained on the ashes and ruins of their homes or somewhere nearby and there met their deaths. However, since the Moslems took these villages and their surroundings they have become inacessible and there is no possibility to find the bodies of the killed Serbs. Since many were killed already during the summer it is hardly likely that they will ever be buried. It will perhaps be possible only after the war is over to ascertain the number of victims who have remained on Moslem territory for whatever reason, and who have been killed as prisoners or detainees, as well as their identities. It is difficult to maintain accurate records because due to the circumstances records are kept in a number of places, among which there are barely any regular traffic links. Thus, for instance, part of the commune of Srebrenica is linked with the commune of Miliec, another with the commune of Skelani, and yet a third one with the commune of Bratunac.
The same pertains to the places of burial. Most of the victims were buried in Bratunac, then in Skelani and in Serbian villages which are still free. Some of the victims have been buried in places vhere they were killed and quite a few were buried in Yugoslavia, in Bajina Basta, Ljubovija and villages on the right bank of the Drina river. The Drina is the grave of some. Current needs and obligations, reduced only to the struggle for bare survival, prevent both civilian and military authorities from undertaking a count of the victims.
Despite all this, that which is accurately known and has been established and to a certain extent medically processed, testifies to the massive tragedy of the Serbian people in these areas.
The list given below contains. the names of 648 victims or about a half of the people of Serb nationality killed there so far. Even as we write this memo the toll rises every day. This is why this document should be seen as initial, incomplete, providing only partial information on the annihilation of the Serbian people and its property in the territories of the communes of Srebrenica, Bratunac and Skelani. A final document wili be drawn up when conditions permit.
The attached list of victims contains the : a) name, father' s name and surname, b) year of birth, c) place of residence, before death, d) place of death. We should perhaps mention that in addition to the above, the following is also known for most of the victims: place of birth, occupation, number of family members, cause of death, medical findings on external examination of the body, direct or indirect perpetrators of the crime, witnesses. In addition, their national and religious affiliation is known, but with a few exceptions, only Serbs of the Orthodox faith are in question.
The list has been made chronologically, by month and date of death, this providing insight into the scope and pace of the attacks of Moslem bands on Serb territories. Attention should perhaps also be drawn to the fact that not only were Serb settlemtiits destroyed, but also whole families in some villages were wiped out.
 
 
 
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That was just the introduction. I can provide the entire document upon request.
 
Spring 1993: Prelude to Srebrenica's second fall
Continued Western support of Srebrenica criminals
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Shamelessly, the West kept supporting the Islamic criminals while still pretending to be neutral. They supported them overtly or covertly, any way they could. Already described cycle "Food for Muslims - death to Serbian Christians" continued uninterrupted throughout autumn of 1992 and spring 1993.
Completely besieged tiny Moslem enclaves in Eastern Bosnia as well as Sarajevo itself (for years!) never seemed to be without ammunition. "Poor, besieged Muslims" could again and again initiate offensives against the Serbs.
There was obviously something rotten in the "food" the "neutral" NATO was distributing. No-one is that stupid not to see.
Caught red-handed:
NATO SMUGGLES WEAPONS TO MUSLIM CRIMINALS 

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Another convoy bound for the eastern [Muslim controlled] enclave of Zepa returned to Belgrade after Canadian officers refused to let Serbs inspect their weapons. A third convoy was believed to have reached [Muslim controlled] Gorazde...

The above quote is from:
"The Associated Press"
Title: "Serbs Reject Peace Plan, More Cease-Fire Violations"
Author: Slobodan Lekic
April 3, 1993
(AP-DS-04-03-93 1749EST)

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Canadian (i.e. NATO) troops, dressed as "neutral" U.N. were to push through the Bosnian Serb lines with declared intention to (only) feed the Bosnian Serb enemy. Why would the Serbs not trust Canadians and why would they insist to inspect weapons the Canadians were bringing in? Maybe it is because any time such humanitarian convoy arrived the Muslim enemy would get a new will (and brand new weapons) to fight.
UNPROFOR ARMED THE MOSLEMS 
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The dislocation of the Serbian population from Gorazde County [Eastern Bosnia] completes one of the strategic plans of the Moslam extremists in Bosnia and Herzegovina. In fact, an ethnicaly cleansed corridor has been created. It connects the Moslems in Bosnia with those in Sandzak [Serbia] that have been suplying man, arms and ammunition to Mr. Izetbegovic's army ever since the war started. "We would have long finished the war if UNPROFOR did not start bringing "help" to Gorazde with the permission of our authorities. When the first white [U.N.] trucks arrived, whose safe-passage was our duty, the Moslems in the city started using heavy machine-guns, mortars, hand launchers, missiles... weapons that they did not have until than. The arms we captured in the battle and the rounds of ammo we've found were made in Pakistan, Turkey and Egypt. All that was shipped to the Moslems under UN protection", says Mr. Ljubomir Rokanovic leader of the convoy of about 2,000 Serbs that have been displaced according to "London promise".

The above quote is from:
"Politika Ekspres"
Title: "UNPROFOR ARMED THE MOSLEMS"
Belgrade, September 3, 1992
(AP-DS-04-03-93 1749EST)

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Did you notice, in our first quote, where the Canadian "humanitarian help" convoy returned to? To Belgrade!
"The strong-man" as Western media liked to call him, President of Serbia, Slobodan Milosevic, was bending backwards in trying to avoid unavoidable confrontation with the West. The West could only hope for such weakness in Serbian ranks.
Milosevic has allowed NATO to use next door Serbia as storage place for Western "humanitarian help." One was in my home town of Panchevo. French "U.N." troops were stationed in ex-Yugoslav Army barracks at the outskirts of the town. NATO expressed its gratitude in accordance to Western culture. They viciously bombed my town a few years later.
Let us check this "humanitarian help" ourselves. This Washington Post article was published only five days after the Associated Press' report saying that Canadians were sent back to Belgrade.
Five days later:
Serbs Uncover Munitions on U.N. Aid Trucks 
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SPLIT, Croatia, April 8 - The U.N. humanitarian aid mission in Bosnia was publicly embarrassed today when Serb nationalist forces besieging Sarajevo uncovered dozens of crates of ammunition on U.N. relief trucks apparently destined for the city's Slavic Muslim-led defenders.
The incident at a Serb checkpoint just outside the embattled Bosnian capital was seen as a major setback in U.N. attempts to be viewed as a neutral player in Bosnia's year-old Serb-Muslim-Croat war. The Serbs have argued long and bitterly that the 7,200 U.N. troops in Bosnia have sided against them in the factional war and were quick to seize on the ammunition crates as proof, summoning reporters and cameramen to record the discovery.
The 48 ammunition crates, found hidden in a load of flour being hauled from warehouses at Sarajevo airport to civilians in the predominantly Muslim suburb of Butmir, contained 7,500 7.9mm and 12.7mm cartridges - designed for use in AK-47 automatic assault rifles and heavy machine guns.
U.N. officials, who promised a complete investigation of the smuggling attempt, were embarrassed again when they launched a search of their own and found 24 sacks of gunpowder and at least 8,000 more rounds of small-arms ammunition hidden in false container bottoms at the U.N.-controlled airport, which serves as a depot for international food and medical aid for Sarajevo's 380,000 besieged civilians.
"We're totally baffled by this event," said Peter Kessler, a spokesman for the U.N. refugee agency, which coordinates the Bosnian aid effort...
In war-ravaged eastern Bosnia, meanwhile, U.N. prestige was battered further when a small convoy carrying the commander of U.N. troops in the republic, French Gen. Philippe Morillon, was set upon by a crowd of Bosnian Serb civilians near Zvornik - about 30 miles north of the besieged Muslim city of Srebrenica.
The crowd - composed mostly of women - pounded on the hoods of the U.N. vehicles, ripped off radio antennas and called Morillon "Hitler," according to reports from the scene. Morillon had hoped to lead 120 U.N. troops into Srebrenica to shore up the morale..., but the high-profile effort has apparently now been postponed.
Perhaps the only good news of the day for the United Nations was that 14 more relief trucks were allowed to enter Srebrenica, half of them carrying food, and left the embattled enclave loaded with 1,400 Muslim refugees en route to the Muslim stronghold of Tuzla, about 60 miles to the northwest...

The above quote is from:
"The Washington Post"
Title: "Serbs Uncover Munitions on U.N. Aid Trucks"
Author: Peter Maass
April 9, 1993

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First of all I want to get one thing clear about Bosnia as a whole. The Serbs didn't "take land" or "invaded" Bosnia. Serbs have always been in Bosnia. Even the term Bosniak was a religious terminology. Not a different ethnic group. The term "Bosnian" can refer to either Muslim or Orthodox.
 
The Orthodox were a majority in Bosnia pre WW2. 44 percent Orthodox to 30 percent Muslim IIRC.
 
Excerpts from different Encyclopediae
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The original setlers of geograhical regions of Bosnia and Herzegovina are SERBS. They were, till recently, the LARGEST ethnic group there. (This is in clash with the claim of the Western press that Serbs are agressors in Bosnia. How can one be aggressor defending OWN property?)
FACTS EASY TO CHECK:

Encyclopedia Britannica, Edition 1971
Reference: EB, Edition 1971, Volume 3, page 983, Entry: Bosnia, history
Quote:
SERBIAN SETLEMENT IN BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA BEGAN IN THE SEVENTH CENTURY A.D.
End quote.
Note: Croats setled much later and in insignificant numbers. That is why they are not mentioned much in the literature.
 
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Encyclopedia Britannica, Edition 1990
Reference: EB, Edition 1990, Volume 29, Macropedia, page 1098, Entry: Yugoslavia, Bosnia and Herz.
Quote:
THE EMPEROR CONSTANTINE VII PORPHYROGENITUS (reigned 913-957) REFFERED TO BOSNIA AS PART OF *THE LAND OF THE SERBS*. (!!!!!!)

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Collier's Encyclopedia, Edition 1956
Reference: Collier's Encyclopedia P.F. Collers & Sons Corporation Volume 19, Edition 1956, YUGOSLAVIA, ... Ethnology and Population, page 661
Quote:
BOSNIA-HERCEGOVINA... THE LARGEST SINGLE NATIONAL ELEMENT IS THE ORTHODOX SERBS, followed by Moslem Slavs (few of whom can trace their origin to Turkish colonists) and Catholic Croats...
... ...The republics of Croatia and Slovenia are predominantly Roman Catholic, while the republics of Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro, and BOSNIA-HERCEGOVINA (!!!) are predominantly ORTHODOX
(End quote)
Note: Muslims are mostly Serbs (and some Croats) who betrayed their Christian heritage for the benefits given to them by the Turkish (Islamic) Empire. In other words - they collaborated with the occupying enemy. They were, in modern terms - quislings.
 
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SHORT ANALYSIS
The largest ethnic cleansing in the known history of the Balkans is done by the West. It is done with American bombers bombing Serbian Christians for the sake of Muslim fundamentalists.
One should ask following questions:
- If the Christian Serbs founded the city of Sarajevo, more than thousand years ago why should they be expelled from their city in order to make the largest Muslim city in (as media says it) "the heart of Europe"?
- Why should 150,000 Serbs who were born in Sarajevo and who had houses and other property (frequenly inherited from generation to generation), be robbed of everything they ever had and thrown to bare mountains?
- If the Serbs successfully defended their property from the Islamic onslaught, why should the West (and in particul - the Europeans) help the history old Islamic Jihad come true?
DEMOGRAPHIC EXPLOSION AMONG BOSNIAN MUSLIMS:
This can help you understand how did it happen that the Muslims surpassed, in population count, the Serbs. What is not seen from these numbers is that some 500,000 Serbs were murdered, in most gruesome way, in WWII, at hand of their Croat and Muslim neighbors.
  (Census from 1948 and 1981):
 
  BOSNIA and HERZEGOVINA
  Year of the census:          1948           1981
 
  TOTAL POPULATION:         2,561,961      4,124,256
 
  Serbs:                    1,136,116      1,320,738
  Muslims:                    788,403      1,630,033  <=======
  Croats:                     614,123        758,140
  Yugoslavs:                        0        326,316

In other words: Muslims more than doubled their numbers in less than 40 years! Also: Many Serbs declared themselves to be (simply) Yugoslavs.
 
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Slaughter of Serbian Srebrenica during WW2 by Bosniak Muslims:
 
During our journey toward the hill of Javor, near Srebrenica and Ozren, all the Serbian villages which we came across were wholly massacred. In the villages between Vlasenica and Kladanj we discovered children who had been impaled upon stakes, their small limbs still distorted by pain, resembling insects stuck through by pins.
The above quote is from:
"Assassins au nom de Dieu"
Author: Herve Lauriere
Paris, 1951, page 58
 
 
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So now from several sources have confirmed that Bosnia was a Serbian Orthodox majority, turned into a Muslim majority via WW2. Let us look at some maps.
 
 
The following map was issued by Encyclopedia Britannica, Edition 1990 (only a year before the civil wars broke in ex-Yugoslavia), Macropedia Volume 29, page 1090.
 
Map%20of%20Bosnia%20pre%20Yugoslav%20War
 
As we can see those Serbs have been there before the war. Serbia did not invade Bosnia as CNN and other western media outlets have portrayed. It was simply that when Tito made the boundaries of Yugoslavia, he drew them that many Serbs were left outside of Serbia.
 

The following map was published by National Geographic Vol. 178, No.2, August 1990 , less than a year before the civil wars broke in ex-Yugoslavia, on page 105. The front page of the August issue had title.
 
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Shows much of the same thing.
 
What should you note on the map:
The Serbs, here presented in light green, are majority population over large portions of Bosnia (in 1990) as well as large portions of Tito designed "Croatia".
Future "Bosniacs" (here simply "Muslims") - are, at last, presented at all as a separate "nationality". On the map they are presented in brown. They are majority population only in a small discontinuous portion of Bosnia, and in part of Serbia. Why was ENTIRE Bosnia-Hercegovina given to their control?
The white areas, according to the map, are areas with "No predominant ethnic group". Note that those include:
- Sarajevo
- Mostar
- Osijek/Vukovar
These were exacly places of heavy battles between different ethnic groups. Also, the battles raged at the places of contact between majority area masses.
Last but not least: The ethnic map of Yugoslavia was not secret. Here we see it in a public publication accessible to anyone interested. Those (thousands) of Western media people that repeated over and over that the Serbs "occupied", "conquered", "landgrabbed" portions of Croatia, Bosnia - had to know that they were involved in pure propaganda.
 
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Now that history has been established from Encyclopedia Britannica, National geographic and a few other neutral sources we go onto Srebrenica itself.
 
Here is an interesting fact. Did you know Srebrenica did not fall once, not twice but THREE TIMES?
 
1) April 19, 1992 - Srebrenica falls to the Serbs for the first time. Srebrenica Muslims promise not to fight and offer their weapon. The Serbs trust them and offer autonomy in return. Only days later, though, the Muslims under leadership of Naser Oric, a cop turn war criminal, not only renege on the promise given - they start slaughtering Serbian civilians. The Islamic terrorists do it in their traditional, bestial fashion.
 
This was only days after America recognized Alija Izetbegovic's illegal rulership and the breaking away of Bosnia as an actual country forcing all of those Serbs on those maps you see above to be part of a country they never wanted to be part of. So Srebrenica fell that fast. The Serbs gave the Muslims autonomy, the right to self rule within the RS, they accepted and gave up their weapons...supposedly.
 
Some sources:
 
SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Hercegovina (UPI) -- Serbian forces seized control of another town near the Drina River in eastern Bosnia-Hercegovina Sunday...
Washington recognized Bosnia-Hercegovina as an independent state on April 7, one day after the 12-member European Community announced its decision to acknowledge the state that is home to 1.9 million Muslims, 1.4 million Serbs and 750,000 Croats...
Serbian [forces]... on Sunday [April 19, 1992] captured the town of Srebrenica after its Muslim population had surrendered weapons, state-run [i.e. Muslim controlled] Sarajevo Radio said.

The above quote is from:
"UPI"
Sunday, 19 April 1992 (6:13:12 PDT)
written by Jonathan S. Landay

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It is not the first time that the Serbs have "liberated" Srebrenica. In 1992, during the first weeks of the Bosnian war, they also took the town... Later, in blazing sunshine, Muslims and Serbs sat down in the middle of the road to hammer out a peace deal. The Serbs offered Srebrenica's Muslims autonomy within the Bosnian Serb republic, but that was rejected. Since then the war in eastern Bosnia has seen the most vicious fighting in the benighted republic...

The above quote is from:
"The Economist"
"Call that safe?"
15-21 July 1995
 
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And what did Naser Oric do? Let's read on:
 
Renewed WWII atrocities 
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Entitled The Bloody Hands of Islam, it described atrocities carried out around Srebrenica by Muslim and Croat fascists allied with Hitler during World War II. ... The book had been banned by Tito's government. Forty Serbs had been executed in Zalazje, a village just outside Srebrenica. […] Roughly fifty years later, on July 12, 1992 - the Serb Orthodox holiday of St. Peter's Day - Naser Oric's men killed 120 people in the same town.
Srebrenica's Muslims and [their leader] Naser Oric had played the United Nations beautifully in 1993. ... The safe area was a joke. For two years, the UN had fed the Muslims, sold them weapons and done nothing as Naser Oric launched raids from a town that was supposed to be "demilitarized." ... Serb villagers within thirty miles of Srebrenica lived in constant fear, waiting to hear the voices in the night and then constant smell smoke. Dozens of civilians had been burned alive in their homes by Oric's men. They had burned [Serb] village, Obadi, to the ground in June 1992.
Bratunac [a town next to Srebrenica, but in Serbian hands] had the second highest casualty rate of any Serb-held community in Bosnia. Roughly 3,000 Serb soldiers and civilians had been killed around Srebrenica. Oric's men killed every prisoner they took so there would be no witnesses... Serb bodies had also been reportedly found with heads and ears cut off. Prisoners were allegedly skinned alive...

The above quote is from:
"End Game: The Betrayal and Fall of Srebrenica,
Europe's Worst Massacre Since World War II"
book by David Rohde
Westview Press, 1998, page 14
West helps Muslims - only! 
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SERBS BLOCK UN AID CONVOY. Western agencies reported on 5 November that Serbian civilians in Bratunac had blocked a UN convoy heading from Serbia into Bosnia to the mainly Muslim town of Srebrenica, whose 30,000 inhabitants have been under siege for about six months. Both towns are just inside Bosnia's border with Serbia. This is not the first incident in which apparently well-organized Serb civilians have prevented UN convoys from reaching besieged Muslims. Milan Panic, the prime minister of Serbia-Montenegro, has repeatedly promised that UN convoys could use Serbia and Serbian-held territory in Bosnia to transport relief supplies, and has also promised to provide the trucks

The above quote is from:
"RFE/RL" (Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty)
06 November 1992
written by Patrick Moore

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BAJINA BASTA, Yugoslavia (UPI) -- Some 300 stick- and ax-wielding Serbs Friday blocked passage to a U.N. convoy trying for a third day to bring relief supplies to the besieged Muslim Slav town of Srebrenica. The U.N. commander refused to push through, declaring, "I will not fight women and children."
The crowd cheered and shouted as the 20-truck convoy approached the bridge over the Drina river linking Bajina Basta, a town in Serbia, with the Serb-held Bosnian town of Skelani.
"My son of 20 was killed in fighting by the enemy," cried one of a dozen women in the crowd. "... We are not going to let them through to help our enemies."
The commander of the Ukranian security escort declined suggestions by other U.N. officers to clear a pass by firing in the air and inching forward with one of his three armored personnel carriers.
"Not one commander will order me to move through a crowd of women and children," said Ukranian Lt. Col. Nikola Triasak of the U.N. Protection Force. "I am providing security against a possible military attack. I will not fight woman and children."
The approximately 300 people, most of them children and war widows dressed in black, waved large sticks, and one wielded an ax, angrily refusing to clear the way...
The convoy tried to reach Srebrenica through Skelani after Serbs for two days blocked the route further north through the Drina river town of Bratunac.
The standoff was the focus of negotiations Thursday in Sarajevo between the commander of UNPROFOR in Bosnia-Herzegovina, French Gen. Phillipe Morillon, and Gen. Ratko Mladic, the commander of Serbian forces...
Morillon set out Friday to the Serbian stronghold of Pale near Sarajevo for another round of negotiations with Mladic and the "president" of self-proclaimed Serbian "state" in Bosnia- Herzegovina, Radovan Karadzic.
In Skelani, Serbian militiamen looked with amusement from nearby buildings.
"Karadzic and Mladic can come here and I will tell them the same: 'No passaran,'" said Ivan Djukic, 25, who buried his brother Thursday...
Two previous attempts by UNPROFOR and the U.N. High Commision for Refugees to deliver aid to Srebrenica also were unsuccesful due to the refusal of local Serbs to let the relief-carrying trucks reach the Muslim Slavs.
U.N. officials decided... to stop delivering aid to Serbian communities in eastern Bosnia-Herzegovina because of their refusal to cooperate with the world organization.

The above quote is from:
"UPI"
27 November 1992
 

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Bratunac, Bosnia, December 1, 2002 - As an Orthodox church priest on the front line of the war between Serbs and Muslims. Nedeljko Mitrovic offers a special prayer at each service in his small whitewashed church. "I ask God to reason with our enemy", he said.
Bratunac is a Serb town in eastern Bosnia entwined in a vicious conflict with its Muslim neighbour Srebrenica. Local people on Saturday reluctantly lifted their blockade of a U.N. relief convoy which took the first outside help that Srebreinca has received since fighting began in April.
When Mitrovic preached on Sunday, they were still angry at having been forced by their political leaders to let the aid across their town. "Of course the convoy had to go, that is natural," Mitrovic said. "but it is difficult to convince people who have lost sons and seen their corpses mutilated".
Bratunac cemetery, a bleak muddy mound from which the hilltop front line is clearly visible a kilometre away, contains 360 war dead.
Among them are people alleged [sic!] to have been tortured and others whose bodies were said to have been set on fire or beheaded by Muslim fighters.
Mitrovic's religious duties include viewing each body to decide whether it is fit to be seen by the bereaved family. It is this harrowing experience, he says, which has prompted his prayer. "I have been a witness to every atrocity here, he said. I think there is nothing human in our enemy. I say that from what I have seen of the state of the corpses". ...
U.N. officials decided... to stop delivering aid to Serbian communities in eastern Bosnia-Herzegovina because of their refusal to cooperate with the world organization.

The above quote is from:
"Reuters"
01 December 1992

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Those Serbs allege atrocious things so easily... But why was the pretend-neutral West not more interested to learn the truth?
After food for Muslims - death for Serbs: 
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LJUBOVIJA, Serbia, Dec 18, 2002 Reuters - ...[M]ore than 4,000 homeless women and children... fled from neighbouring Bosnia after a Moslem attack on Serb villages left at least 58 dead...
Families, accompanied by some old people, came from the Bosnian Serb town of Bratunac and the surrounding villages just across the Drina river frontier.
They left on Wednesday in the midst of funeral ceremonies(!) for the Serbs killed when Moslem fighters swooped on three villages on Monday.
Their departure was prompted by fears of an attack on Bratunac itself from the besieged Moslem town of Srebrenica only kilometres (miles) away.
It was so sudden that most crossed the iron bridge between Bosnia and Serbia with only the clothes they were wearing when the funeral was interrupted.
"No-one knew they were coming," said Ljubovija's mayor Zivorad Pantic. "Suddenly they appeared among us and we were completely unprepared."
The latest influx means the market town's population of 4,000 is now sheltering almost 9,000 refugees from the eight- month war in Bosnia, where Serbs are fighting Moslems and Croats who declared independence from Yugoslavia.
Refugees who can see their homes 1,000 metres (yards) away on the other bank of the Drina said they would return once their men, who stayed to fight, made Bratunac secure from Moslem attack.
At one school in Ljubovija, the refugees have spent two nights without bedding.
Children, including infants, were put to sleep in rows on school desks pushed together under dim lights in crowded classrooms.
Many of their mothers, fearful for the safety of their husbands in fighting that echoes in the surrounding hills, are bitter about the Moslems.
"We fed them and now they have done this to us," one woman said, referring to a U.N. food convoy that was allowed to cross Bratunac to Srebrenica recently...
They are angry that international aid organizations did not go to Bratunac to verify the state of the bodies of those killed this week. "Nobody came to see what those people looked like when they were brought in," a woman said.
The bodies of 58 victims were brought to the medical centre in Bratunac before being buried.
An amateur video film showed that all had been mutilated after death [!?], some gruesomely, in an act of deliberate provocation towards Serbs, who revere their dead almost obsessively.

The above quote is from:
"Reuters"
18 December 1992
written by Donald Forbes

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BRATUNAC, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Dec 18, Reuter - Before he was buried in a cemetery that bristles with fresh wooden crosses the remains of Dusan Pradunovic were filmed by medical authorities.
The amateur video, shown to reporters by doctors who identified him, show that most of the upper part of his corpse and head were missing and that his hands had been chopped off.
The mutilation of Pradunovic and other victims of a Moslem attack occurred after they were shot dead.
Near him lay the corpse of a man whose penis had been sliced off and a boy whose eyes were gouged from his face. An elderly woman had been disembowelled.
Pradunovic, a man of almost 60, and the others were among more than 50 Bosnian Serb villagers killed in an attack by Moslem forces near Bratunac this week.
Their mutilation after they were killed was apparently an act of contempt by the Moslems for their Serb foes in the vicious war over Bosnian independence.
According to the video made as a record by the Bratunac medical centre, the body of each victim was desecrated in some way calculated to provoke fury.
Doctors at the medical centre vouched for the authenticity of the film, shown to Reuters and seen by many residents of Bratunac who helped identify the victims.
Their Moslem foes, 10 km (six miles) away across the frontlines, could not be contacted for comment...
Officials at the Bratunac medical centre said they were ready to show the video, lasting more than half an hour, to anyone who wanted to see it -- including, eventually, the Yugoslav War Crimes Commission set up in Geneva...
"Naser [Oric]," the 25-year-old commander of Moslem forces in Srebrenica, admitted recently: "This is a dirty war, fought without mercy."
Serbs said the Moslems attacked on Monday without warning as dawn broke, targeting the villages of Bjelovac, Sikirici and Voljevica.
Rodoje Rankovic, one of three brothers who escaped from Bjelovac, said: "The Moslems suddenly appeared in the centre of the village. There was an explosion and people ran from their homes into gunfire."
"They tried to run for the banks of the (river) Drina, but the Moslems had already occupied it to stop them escaping. People who tried to get across in dinghies were shot at."
Rankovic and Simic said that the battle for the village of about 200 people lasted all day. At the end of the afternoon, 40 of its inhabitants were dead and others are still missing.
A [Serb] woman identified as Mira Filipovic, panicking in her desperation, threw herself into the fast-flowing Drina with her small daughter and infant son, local people said. The three are assumed to have drowned.
The victims were taken to the Bratunac medical centre where they were filmed and their injuries indexed.
Some had been hacked and stabbed at random. Others, like Pradunovic, had obviously undergone methodical mutilation.
"They were just villagers, they weren't army," Simic said. "They were just defending themselves. This is a fight for our survival. If Serbs lose this war, they will disappear from this territory." ...
Ten km (six miles) west is Srebrenica, built in a natural mountain fortress. Moslems starved by the siege feel as abandoned and desperate as their Serb enemies.
Local Serbs feel particularly betrayed because twice in recent weeks they allowed U.N. aid convoys for the Moslems to cross the no man's land between them at Srebrenica.
"It is difficult to contain the people when things like this happen," Simic said. "If the U.N. wants to take another convoy, I am going to take them to the people (of Bratunac) and they can tell them what they think."

The above quote is from:
"Reuters"
18 December 1992
written by Donald Forbes
 

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Oric himself provided the self-incriminating evidence by videotaping his atrocities.
The Bosnian Muslim forces chose Orthodox festivals and holidays to launch their attacks on Serbian villages. On May 6, 1992, on the Orthodox religious feast of St. George (Djurdjevdan), the village of Bljeceva in the Bratunac municipality was attacked by Muslim forces under Hasib Ibrahimovic. The Gniona attack was led by Naser Oric himself. An elderly Bosnian Serb woman, Kosana Zekic, “whose throat was slit inside her house,” was one of the civilians killed. In Gniona, an ailing and half-blind man, Radojko Milosevic (born 1928) was burned to death in his own house and the village was destroyed and burned. In this attack, Oric used loudspeakers to announce himself: “This is Naser Oric speaking…” He demanded that Serbs surrender or they would be killed. Gniona was the first Serbian village completely burned and destroyed in eastern Bosnia.
On May 7, 1992, in an attack on the village of Osmace in the Srebrenica municipality, seven Serbs were killed. Naser Oric organized and ordered this attack.
On May 21, a truck taking eleven Serbian civilians from Podravanje to Milici was attacked and eight Serbs were killed.
On June 21, in an attack on Ratkovici, 18 Serbs were killed. Radenko Stanojevic had his throat cut while Desanka Stanojevic was burned in her house.
On August 8, 1992, Jezestica was attacked. Andjelko Bogicevic, born in 1965, had his head cut off and taken away by Muslim forces.
On June 30, Brezani was attacked and 19 [Serb] residents killed. Milos Novkovic was beheaded while Vido Lazic was crucified and set on fire. Kristina Lazic was set on fire in her house.
On July 5, 1992, Krnjici and Oricevi were attacked and 16 [Serbs] killed. The throat of elderly Bosnian Serb Vaso Paraca, born in 1912 [i.e. 80 years old!!!], was slit.

The above quote is from:
"Srebrenica: The Untold Story"
written by [Serbian-American] historian Carl Savic
 
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"Between them Milosevic a Saint? Wow. Well, thanks but no thanks I have no intentions of joining in your illusions.

Milosevic clearly took power in a shady way, too. Also, he is the one that initiated the war by attacing Slovenia, other than that he issued the JNA to pull arms back to Serbia and territories where Serbs were in the majority."
 
And he attacked Slovenian regime because of the way they treated the Serbs. Much how the Croats forced the Serbs into secondary roles in their country even making them wear "minority IDs" like the Jews in Nazi Germany. Old habits die hard? So please don't speak if you don't even know basics like that. The rights of the Serb minorities there were being abused. Even the Slovenians seem to understand that. They themselves today IIRC are against Kosovo "liberation".
 
"Bihac had one of the most advanced airports/military wise in the Yugoslavia. Izetbegovic your Islamofascist who actually never comitted anything like Srebrenica but also took power in a shady way - LET him do this not fully knowing that it would lead to war.

He thus initiated the war and held the utensils of war, like I said the Bosnain side bears 70% of the causulties in Bosnia."
 
Actually Izetbegovic is the DIRECT REASON Srebrenica happened. Even the commanders there said this. The Bosniak ones. I'll give a full outline of Srebrenica from the Bosniak side.
 
"OH and Vukovar was not destroyed by Croats themselves, no but by Serbian paramilitary forces armed to the teeth through Milosevics manuvers. Just because he actually never fielded battle does not make him a saint."

Vukovar was a war scene because of what the Ustashe minded Tudgman did to the Serbs in Croatia. When the civil war happened there were Serbian Republics not under Serbia proper in several areas such as Krajina and Bosnia. The Serb republic of Krajina answered to their higher ups, the RS answered to this. Sorry but war criminals or not, those paramilitaries were taking no orders from Milosevic. One of the Krajina commanders in an intverview said he wanted to assassinate Milosevic for not helping enough in Krajina. "My God they are trailing him for war crimes against the Croats? War crimes against the Croats?!" He knew the horrors of what the Croatians did where hundreds of thousands of Serbs were killed/forced out.
 
"Recent UN figures judge the total death toll in Bosnia to be around 100 000 or more. Of those70 000 were Bosnians. Of those70% more than 70% are civilians (you know children women elderly incapable - non armed non fighters) There were only a few thousand muhajadeen and they only were employed in Zenica, there were a few in the tens or twenties in the 5th corps around Bihac."

I have nothing but your word to go on. In any case that doesn't prove anything.
 
"Also Carpathian , royal and banate records call their subjcets (the bans or kings depending on period) as bosnjani not serbs. Just because a Byzantine in Constantinople called them that in 900 you think so... ok..."
 
There was never a seperate ethnic composition of "Bosniak" until Islam was introduced. There were Serbs and there were Croatians. Bosniaks split out of the Serbs when they adopted Islam. I know there was a political division, but no more different then say between Wallachia and Moldavia in my country at that time.
 
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I read through the articles and it shows some unfortunate situations. On the other hand it doesn't explain the full cause and effect. If you have a specific case to make make it, but throwing a wall of articles at me is just time consuming since I don't know the specific point you are making. Post one of the articles and quote the specific section too if possible.
 
"Oh about the "illegal" way Izetbegovic took power, the council membership was seven, two from each ethnicity and both are the guys with the most votes, Izetbegovic was second so automatically he was a member of the council. When the war started the constitution was freezed and all presidents, Karazedic among them, kept their seats, so here is the thing, Karazedic is legitimate and Begovic isn't?
 
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I was refering to another guy. I forgot his name, is it Abdic? He was a Bosniak and he was pro-Yugoslav unity. And Izetbegovic forced him out. His little mein kampf he wrote gave him "divine right".
 
 
 
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I'm going to post the reply for this and the next post will be an over view of Srebrenica. I'm going to use UN documents, testimony from Bosniak commanders there as well.
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Oh about the "illegal" way Izetbegovic took power, the council membership was seven, two from each ethnicity and both are the guys with the most votes, Izetbegovic was second so automatically he was a member of the council. When the war started the constitution was freezed and all presidents, Karazedic among them, kept their seats, so here is the thing, Karazedic is legitimate and Begovic isn't?
 
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Abdic was the legitimate president of BiH, having gained the prime seat and most votes overall of all candidates. In that respect he was illegitimate.

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Oh about the "illegal" way Izetbegovic took power, the council membership was seven, two from each ethnicity and both are the guys with the most votes, Izetbegovic was second so automatically he was a member of the council. When the war started the constitution was freezed and all presidents, Karazedic among them, kept their seats, so here is the thing, Karazedic is legitimate and Begovic isn't?
 
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Originally posted by HEROI

I dont understand,your post is completely out of the topic,and is to long, and is very inconsiderate to facts and reality, it talks about Arabs and Muslims,it has nothing to do with our topic here,you are welcome to quote me and debate on what i have writen down,i am not gona bother reading all this crap you have posted here.
 
And what was the crap about Serbs having being in Bosnia before the Muslims?You are completely out of touch with history of the region,Serbs and Bosniaks are mainly slavic peoples,which have both come at the same time in the balkans mixing or pushing local populations further down.
 
 
Unless the moderators clean up the topic of your posts,i am not gona bother reply to you again.Come to your senses kid!!


Well; aparently to his conclusion there were no Bosnians just Serbs, when tribes historically were in the 30, 000s of thousands.

Also Carpathian , royal and banate records call their subjcets (the bans or kings depending on period) as bosnjani not serbs. Just because a Byzantine in Constantinople called them that in 900 you think so... ok...
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"Taken out of context first of all and I am not a fan of Izetbegovic either, I put him Milosevic and Tudjman in the same category of war criminals alongside mladic, and karadzic."

Perhaps Tito read the "out of context" Serb version of it ;) Which is why he put him in jail. Oh come on es_bih you're just being silly now. Please give us the context then.
 
"Islamofascism, oh I am so sure a population of 2 million on whose sides 70%of the deathtoll occured and out of that amount over 70% were civilian deaths. Oh yeah right. "
 
What are the statistics for this? Oh and Mujehadeen and civilians with guns aren't really civilian deaths. I love that. Un-uniformed combatants fight the Serbs and when they get their rear end handed to them "oh man why are you killing civilians!? You're evil!"


Recent UN figures judge the total death toll in Bosnia to be around 100 000 or more. Of those70 000 were Bosnians. Of those70% more than 70% are civilians (you know children women elderly incapable - non armed non fighters) There were only a few thousand muhajadeen and they only were employed in Zenica, there were a few in the tens or twenties in the 5th corps around Bihac.


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Between them Milosevic a Saint? Wow. Well, thanks but no thanks I have no intentions of joining in your illusions.

Milosevic clearly took power in a shady way, too. Also, he is the one that initiated the war by attacing Slovenia, other than that he issued the JNA to pull arms back to Serbia and territories where Serbs were in the majority.

Bihac had one of the most advanced airports/military wise in the Yugoslavia. Izetbegovic your Islamofascist who actually never comitted anything like Srebrenica but also took power in a shady way - LET him do this not fully knowing that it would lead to war.

He thus initiated the war and held the utensils of war, like I said the Bosnain side bears 70% of the causulties in Bosnia.

OH and Vukovar was not destroyed by Croats themselves, no but by Serbian paramilitary forces armed to the teeth through Milosevics manuvers. Just because he actually never fielded battle does not make him a saint.

He is a sain to nationalists just like the other two. But a saint between the three?
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The 8 thousand boys and men in Srebenica were armed to their teeth when they were gathered and slaughtered worse than sheep weren't they?
 
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They had WMDs
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The 8 thousand boys and men in Srebenica were armed to their teeth when they were gathered and slaughtered worse than sheep weren't they?
 
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I actually replied to you specifically as well. If you'd actually read my post you'll see that.
 
Edit: Can we get a thread about Bosnia/Croatia? Srebrenica specifically and maybe Krajina.


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I dont understand,your post is completely out of the topic,and is to long, and is very inconsiderate to facts and reality, it talks about Arabs and Muslims,it has nothing to do with our topic here,you are welcome to quote me and debate on what i have writen down,i am not gona bother reading all this crap you have posted here.
 
And what was the crap about Serbs having being in Bosnia before the Muslims?You are completely out of touch with history of the region,Serbs and Bosniaks are mainly slavic peoples,which have both come at the same time in the balkans mixing or pushing local populations further down.
 
 
Unless the moderators clean up the topic of your posts,i am not gona bother reply to you again.Come to your senses kid!!
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"Taken out of context first of all and I am not a fan of Izetbegovic either, I put him Milosevic and Tudjman in the same category of war criminals alongside mladic, and karadzic."

Perhaps Tito read the "out of context" Serb version of it ;) Which is why he put him in jail. Oh come on es_bih you're just being silly now. Please give us the context then.
 
"Islamofascism, oh I am so sure a population of 2 million on whose sides 70%of the deathtoll occured and out of that amount over 70% were civilian deaths. Oh yeah right. "
 
What are the statistics for this? Oh and Mujehadeen and civilians with guns aren't really civilian deaths. I love that. Un-uniformed combatants fight the Serbs and when they get their rear end handed to them "oh man why are you killing civilians!? You're evil!"
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So sorry, Tito or whoever never intended that sort of trash to govern people's lives. Especially in the way Izetbegovic got into power. Do we need to get into how crazy Franco Tudjman was or did he kill enough of your people too that I don't need to?
 
I'll mention this however. Krajina, populated by Serbs in the 1500s by the Austrians after it was devestated by war, they had lived there and were put into Tito's Croatia at the creation of the communist Yugoslavia. Krajina was CLEANSED of Serbs through operations Flash and Storm. Hundreds of thousands, the largest single act of "ethnic cleansing" in the Balkans was done here. Who is held accountable? I'm sure we both know Franco was an Ustashe dreamer.
 
So please between Izetbegovic and Tudjman, Milosevic was a saint. And this is me saying this, a Romanian and I consider myself a Royalist. So I spit in the eye of every communist. If I could, i'd go back to my country, take every former communist piece of trash in our parliment sucking up my country dry with their corruption and impale them in a circle around the Capitol building. I have no love for communists.
 
But going back to Bosnia. Izetbegovic simply created a rebel state under the Serb's feet. People who wanted to remain part of Yugoslavia. Why should they have to live in Izetbegovic's country when they want to live in Yugoslavia? And again as opposed to the "CNN-truth" of things, the Serbs did NOT take lands over from the Bosniaks. In fact if you look at the Dayton accord agreement many Serbs were gerrymandered out of being in Republika Sprska.
 
"However, Milosevic was an a--hole, and his policies and actions are directly intertwined with the deceleration of independence approved by Washington. If he had not revoked autonomy and killed innocent people that would not have happened (again not implying that the KLA did not do their share of bad things after the outbreak of violence)."
 
Killed innocent people? Again what are you talking about? Yes innocent people die in war, they die in every war but if you are suggesting he went in and wanted to kill civilian Albanians this is non sense.
 
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The battle of Kosovo

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Oh great a Noel Malcolm article. "The Russians did it the Russians did it!" Oh please, other then rubbish speculation that article is nothing but bed time stories for little children. Get out of here with that non-sense.
 
So everything was peaceful until the Russians and the Serbs invented some fake history so they can opress the rich nation of Albania. Riiight.
 
To HEROI:

Learn how to quote stuff! That is a pain in the ass to read. One thing I caught was that 1.5 Million Albanians were kicked out of 1.9? This is non-sense. Show me some proof of this because I don't even think your fellow Albanians here agree with you there. And the Albanians fled because the KLA told them to in part and because the NATO bombs which sometimes hit Albanians as well.
 
As for Milosevic planning genocide? Do you have any proof? Because today we have NO single document order or anything similar to it suggesting Milosevic planned genocide ANYWHERE.
 
And Racak was NOT a massacre. All the forensic teams of the UN that went in concluded it wasn't. But you say there is video tape of this? I'd love to see it. I'm sure we all do.
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Taken out of context first of all and I am not a fan of Izetbegovic either, I put him Milosevic and Tudjman in the same category of war criminals alongside mladic, and karadzic.

Islamofascism, oh I am so sure a population of 2 million on whose sides 70%of the deathtoll occured and out of that amount over 70% were civilian deaths. Oh yeah right.


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